Adult outcomes in the population

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So what have you achieved in your adult life?

Age: 18-24, Group: D/U ASD, Outcome: Very Good	5%	[ 9 ]
Age: 18-24, Group: D/U ASD, Outcome: Good	6%	[ 12 ]
Age: 18-24, Group: D/U ASD, Outcome: Fair	13%	[ 24 ]
Age: 18-24, Group: D/U ASD, Outcome: Restricted	8%	[ 14 ]
Age: 25+, Group: D/U ASD, Outcome: Very Good	11%	[ 20 ]
Age: 25+, Group: D/U ASD, Outcome: Good	19%	[ 36 ]
Age: 25+, Group: D/U ASD, Outcome: Fair	15%	[ 28 ]
Age: 25+, Group: D/U ASD, Outcome: Restricted	15%	[ 28 ]
Age: 18-24, Group: NT, Outcome: Very Good	1%	[ 1 ]
Age: 18-24, Group: NT, Outcome: Good	0%	[ 0 ]
Age: 18-24, Group: NT, Outcome: Fair	0%	[ 0 ]
Age: 18-24, Group: NT, Outcome: Restricted	1%	[ 1 ]
Age: 25+, Group: NT, Outcome: Very Good	1%	[ 1 ]
Age: 25+, Group: NT, Outcome: Good	2%	[ 4 ]
Age: 25+, Group: NT, Outcome: Fair	4%	[ 8 ]

Total votes : 186

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13 Dec 2012, 3:28 pm

[1] to much diference in scores.
[2] 42
[3] high school
[4] N/A
[5] N/A
[6] not emplyed
[7] not living independently
[8] N/A
[9] N/A
[10] Fair
[11] 25+
[12] autism

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13 Dec 2012, 3:58 pm

1] Most recent official IQ score My subtest scores were too different to add up.
[2] Most recent Autism Spectrum Quotient Test score 40
[3] Highest level of education achieved 11th grade
[4] Degree achieved and in what field (only applies to those who attended community college or above after high school and graduated) N/A
[5] How long did it take you to achieve your highest degree? N/A
[6] If employed, are you employed up to your potential? (i.e. the job you currently have requires the highest degree you hold). N/A
[7] If living independently, at what age did you move out and start living on your own? N/A
[8] If you never have been in a romantic relationship, are you interested in getting into one? N/A
[9] If you have ever been in a romantic relationship, how old were you when you first got into one? 22
[10] Outcome Fair I am in a romantic relationship.
[11] Age Group 19-24
[12] Diagnosis Group ASD

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13 Dec 2012, 5:20 pm

chssmstrjk wrote:

One other thing. Regardless of what poll option you choose, mention the following factors:

[1] Most recent official IQ score
[2] Most recent Autism Spectrum Quotient Test score
[3] Highest level of education achieved
[4] Degree achieved and in what field (only applies to those who attended community college or above after high school and graduated)
[5] How long did it take you to achieve your highest degree?
[6] If employed, are you employed up to your potential? (i.e. the job you currently have requires the highest degree you hold).
[7] If living independently, at what age did you move out and start living on your own?
[8] If you never have been in a romantic relationship, are you interested in getting into one?
[9] If you have ever been in a romantic relationship, how old were you when you first got into one?
[10] Outcome
[11] Age Group
[12] Diagnosis Group

eer I voted fair but I'm not really sure....I finished my degree last year and now I'm taking on uni course-because I was going to pursue a second degree that needed this course but decided not to and doing nothing else-so technically in higher ed but VERY part time and not working toward a degree. Also I have 2 people who I consider friends but I don't see either of them on a regular basis

1) Unreliable-subscores too scattered -verbal IQ 126
2) 37
3)undergraduate -Bachelor's degree
4)Psychology degree
5)5 years but I did 2 years dropped out and then came back to do 3 more
6)unemployed
7) not independent
[8]N.A.
9) 17
10)fair?
11)25+
12)Asperger's diagnosis

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13 Dec 2012, 5:47 pm

[1] A total was not given and there were separate scores for each skill category, so I don't know.
[2] No idea, I haven't taken that in a long time but it did suggest I was on the spectrum when I did take it though I don't recall the exact score.
[3] Some College
[4] I've earned a low level Certificate in Child Development (the lowest anything you can earn here without going for a degree).
[5] I took one class a semester plus a intro to college type class so about two years I think or near to that.
[6] My job isn't quite up to the level of schooling I now have but I spend the last two years looking for work with no success so trying for SSI(for the second or third time) now.
[7] N/A
[8] Maybe someday. I'm a too dependent on others to be good at that sort of thing I think, not that I've tried. I don't even know how to try and get to know a person like that or at all most of the time.
[9] N/A
[10] Restrictive - I still live with my parents due to lack of money and skills to move out, only have one real friend and am trying to get SSI as working for a living hasn't worked out for me.
[11] 25+ (Just turned 28 a month ago)
[12] Diagnosed PDD-NOS almost a year ago now.

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13 Dec 2012, 6:11 pm

Been sitting here for a while trying to figure out how to answer this because I could be fair or very good (other than friends) depending on the time in my life. I would have to say fair right now but I have been successful by most peoples material standards.

I'm not surprised to see that many IQ test results here are invalid because of scatter. I also had 60 point difference between index score and ranged from borderline to ceiling on subtest scores. I don't think FSIQ score are a very good predictor of anything when it comes to ASD but the topic has been discussed ad nauseum on WP.

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13 Dec 2012, 7:45 pm

Just FYI and all, your "very good" outcome would preclude a diagnosis of an ASD.

The "good" outcome would be the minimum required.

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13 Dec 2012, 7:49 pm

Dillogic wrote:

Just FYI and all, your "very good" outcome would preclude a diagnosis of an ASD.

The "good" outcome would be the minimum required.

Would someone like Temple Grandin fit the criteria for very good as defined by the OP?

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13 Dec 2012, 7:56 pm

She doesn't have a partner, right (never has IIRC)? I don't see her having "friends" in a way that normal people have.

So, no. She'd be under good; work/study and independent.

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13 Dec 2012, 8:06 pm

Dillogic wrote:

Just FYI and all, your "very good" outcome would preclude a diagnosis of an ASD.

The "good" outcome would be the minimum required.

Not necessarily. If I recall correctly, there was someone who responded to the poll and made a post claiming that they were diagnosed on the autism spectrum and had a very good outcome in context of the OP.

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13 Dec 2012, 8:12 pm

Well, by the DSM-IV-TR/ICD-10 anyway. Gillberg's doesn't have any "functional impairment" listed, so there's that.

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13 Dec 2012, 8:14 pm

chssmstrjk wrote:

I am just curious as to what the people on WrongPlanet, in general, have achieved in their adult lives.

Here's an explanation as to what the poll choices mean:

Age Groups: [1] Young Adult: 18-24 years of age.
[2] Full Adult: 25+ years of age.

Diagnosis Groups: [1] D/U ASD = Diagnosed/Undiagnosed ASD [2] NT = Neurotypical (In this case, Neurotypical = Non-ASD).

[1] Outcome =Very Good
Have achieved the following 3 things: [A] Living independently (e.g. not living with your parents/parent and not dependent on anyone for financial support)
[B] In higher education/currently employed
[C] Having at least 2 friends/steady romantic relationship.

[2] Outcome = Good
Have achieved 2 of the 3 things (A,B,C) under Very Good outcome
- For those of you who choose this poll option, mention which two of the 3 things mentioned (A,B,C) you have achieved (as well as the age group and diagnosis group you fit into).

[3] Outcome = Fair
Have achieved 1 of the 3 things (A,B,C) under Very Good outcome
- For those of you who choose this poll option, mention which one of the 3 things mentioned (A,B,C) you have achieved (as well as the age group and diagnosis group you fit into).

[4] Outcome = Restricted
Have achieved none of the 3 things under Very Good outcome.

I thought I split the poll options into diagnosis and age subgroup options.

One other thing. Regardless of what poll option you choose, mention the following factors:

[1] Most recent official IQ score
[2] Most recent Autism Spectrum Quotient Test score
[3] Highest level of education achieved
[4] Degree achieved and in what field (only applies to those who attended community college or above after high school and graduated)
[5] How long did it take you to achieve your highest degree?
[6] If employed, are you employed up to your potential? (i.e. the job you currently have requires the highest degree you hold).
[7] If living independently, at what age did you move out and start living on your own?
[8] If you never have been in a romantic relationship, are you interested in getting into one?
[9] If you have ever been in a romantic relationship, how old were you when you first got into one?
[10] Outcome
[11] Age Group
[12] Diagnosis Group

I guess it's my turn to go.

[1] General IQ: 125 (Verbal IQ: 99, Thinking Ability: 119, Performance IQ: 138)
[2] ASQ: 22
[3] Attended graduate school (right now, I am going for a graduate certificate and hopefully a Master's)
[4] Bachelor's (Biomedical Engineering)
[5] Bachelor's : 4 years
[6] Currently unemployed, but I am looking for work. I had employment at one point via graduate teaching assistantship. But not getting quite good enough grade in my graduate school classes caused me to lose it.
[7] Not quite living 100% independently (right now, I am taking care of my elderly father who has a heart condition).
[8] I am definitely interested in getting into one. I have gone out on a couple of first dates in the last few months. But they didn't seem that interested in me.
[9] NONE [My first official date was back when I was only 17. I have gone on plenty of dates since then. But never had a serious girlfriend.]
[10] Outcome: Good ([B] In higher education as well as seeking employment [C] Have more than 2 friends and interested in getting into a steady relationship)
[11] Age Group: 18-24
[12] Diagnosis Group: ASD

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13 Dec 2012, 8:22 pm

Just out of curiosity, what is the criteria that led you to determine having two friends as opposed to some other number was sufficient to upgrade outcome?

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13 Dec 2012, 8:37 pm

chssmstrjk wrote:

Dillogic wrote:

Just FYI and all, your "very good" outcome would preclude a diagnosis of an ASD.

The "good" outcome would be the minimum required.

Yeah... I don't see how they are mutually exclusive. I get the diagnostic criteria, but interpreting that as you not being able to hold a job, have social relations or be impaired in the all-encompassing "other important areas of functioning" is a little bit too literal of an interpretation in my opinion. It doesn't look at how hard you are working to understand, your coping strategies (be them effective or ineffective) as well as impairments in your past. If you did look at that, you would see that my functioning is definitely "impaired" in that sense.

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13 Dec 2012, 9:11 pm

Verdandi wrote:

Just out of curiosity, what is the criteria that led you to determine having two friends as opposed to some other number was sufficient to upgrade outcome?

If you have at least a group of friends and/or a girlfriend who appreciate you for who you are, enjoy doing things with you, and know you to such an extent that your social impairments (if any) are not that severe or obvious to people, it shows that you are in good social/emotional health. There are people on the ASD out there who live independently and hold jobs; but have a hard time making friends or getting into a romantic relationship due to their social/emotional impairments. Thus, they have poor social/emotional health which can lead to them becoming depressed even if they live in their own house, can take care of themselves (without any assistance whatsoever), have tons of money (which is way more than enough to support themselves given the quality of their living situation), and are able to hold well-paying leadership kind of jobs for an extended period of time (i.e. holding a CEO/manager position of a big corporation/company for at least a year).

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14 Dec 2012, 11:11 am

[1] Most recent official IQ score: I don't know if I was ever tested; don't have a solid score, but I was deemed gifted when I was a preschooler
[2] Most recent Autism Spectrum Quotient Test score: 37
[3] Highest level of education achieved: In 3rd year university now, doing an Honors BA in Psychology.
[4] Degree achieved and in what field (only applies to those who attended community college or above after high school and graduated): N/A
[5] How long did it take you to achieve your highest degree?: N/A
[6] If employed, are you employed up to your potential? (i.e. the job you currently have requires the highest degree you hold).: I am working in two part-time jobs, one as a tutor-ish to an autistic young adult and one as a relief-shift respite worker to an older autistic male
[7] If living independently, at what age did you move out and start living on your own?: I moved out a year ago
[8] If you never have been in a romantic relationship, are you interested in getting into one?: N/A
[9] If you have ever been in a romantic relationship, how old were you when you first got into one?: I was 20. I met my boyfriend in an Asperger's support group. We've been living together for about 6 months now.
[10] Outcome: Very good, w/ lots of support & accommodations
[11] Age Group: 18-24
[12] Diagnosis Group: Asperger's

I still think I do qualify for the diagnosis and many people in my life think so, too.

Dillogic wrote:

She doesn't have a partner, right (never has IIRC)? I don't see her having "friends" in a way that normal people have.

So, no. She'd be under good; work/study and independent.

She doesn't want a partner/feel like she needs one, so I would argue that it is NOT an impairment in her case. She does have friends, who are really people she works with, who share her interest in cattle equipment etc. I don't think this is particularly "abnormal" or qualifies as a deficit, either.

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14 Dec 2012, 4:45 pm

Dillogic wrote:

Just FYI and all, your "very good" outcome would preclude a diagnosis of an ASD.

The "good" outcome would be the minimum required.

I don't see anything under the current or new criteria that indicates that I can't have a home, job, or friends.

Further, none of that means I'm living well, making enough to live on, or have sufficient social support.

It just mean I have them!

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