Is anyone else interested in forming an Aspie Union?

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a whole variety of stuff.

This really shouldn`t be news to you.


It`s obvious we need to organize, very few minority groups do well without organizations.

Were a group of people that owe everything our community has to desperate parents.

I`m getting really this sick I`m gonna do it solo routine.

I'd be 100% interested in joining, but answer this question: what could someone like me, an oppressed fourteen year old, or a completely non-social Autistic living alone do to help out?

Your equation of Mike1's proposed union to Autism Sneaks is flawed. Autism Sneaks is run by Neurotypicals who really don't give a damn about our preferences, whilst the union that Mike1 proposes would be run by and for individuals on the spectrum.

Creating a union for the purpose of standing up for our rights is no bad thing. I don't see why you have any objections to it.

Specify, please?


How would I know unless Mike1 details his proposal instead of giving vague references and repeating worn-out phrases?


Evidence, please?


Non Sequitur.


We owe nothing to anyone who was obligated to give.


I did it solo. I did it without any money-grubbing "Union" helping me. I owe nothing to anyone for my success because I did it solo.

You can help to create a good name for the union. Once we develop symbols to represent the union we can wear them on us to show that we represent the union. Members of the union should be obligated to be good citizens to help to further the cause. If the union manages to achieve a good name, wearing these symbols could even make people think better of you for being affiliated with it. It would be sort like the Free Masons but we would be working towards achieving greater rights and improving our image in the public's eye.

As for non-social Autistics living at home, I'm not sure what they could do. Maybe I'll think of something later on.

Lol if your this much of a ``guy`` in real life, I`d guess you got lucky. Even in aspie terms you must be a real headache to work with.

Mike1, if the members of your proposed organization "achieve a good name", what is the point of having symbols? I'm thinking that you may be harkening back to the service organizations of the late 1800s-mid-1950s, but those organizations drew from a different cultural, economic, and technological climate.

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Oh, yes! Let's put on uniforms with fancy ribbons and parade around telling people that we're members of the Great Aspie Union while we smile and do good deeds.

Meanwhile, there is no real "Union" to speak of ...

Okay. Thank you for the explaination. Perhaps non-social Autistics could help to promote the union online?

Symbols are connected with strong feelings. If the union achieves a good name, members of the union wearing the symbols could be seen as good regardless of the things they have personally contributed. It would be beneficial to have symbols because it would contribute to making us seen as collectively good, rather than just being seen as individually good.

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Symbols are meaningless without stated goals and a REAL plan in place to attain those goals.

As it stands right now, all you have are cosmetic features without any substance to support them.

Meh the younger the better, at this point I think people older than 30 aren`t gonna benefit much from this type of thing.


Here are some thing to work on.

1). Locating potential aspies, and getting them exposed to it so they can begin to understand the neurology.

2). Selling being an aspie to newbies so they can skip a few steps along the way. Gays back in the day had to spend years dealing with guilt and shame due to religous nonsense, nowadays that`s been wiped out thanks to awareness. We face a similar issue, where people spend years in torment coming to terms with the stigma fears etc.

3) Figuring out how to sort aspies, this is crucial with so many different types of aspies, we need some form of framework to work with. Being able to identify which aspies are capable of which jobs etc are crucial.

4) Helping the aspie community through volunteering, government support is never gonna be sufficient. Early intervention is crucial for younger kids, we need as many people volunteering as possible.

5) networking helping eachother finding jobs. This is the most crucial, networking is key in most job markets, this is something that nt`s take for granted and is our biggest weakness as a community IMO. Simple things like sharing job experiences is a necessity.

Is it an aspie-centric union, or is it open to other autistics too?

If you'd asked last week, I'd be all for it. As of now, though, I don't think I'll ever come out of the closet. Sorry.

I rather not put my diagnosis on full blast. Like Fnord said, a union won't protect us, hell it may harm us a bit (jeers, boos, criticism, even assassination attempts)

When I saw this thread was related to the Conn shooting I thought it was implying the victims were at a special needs school for autistic kids, not that the shooter had an ASD. This is because I was intentionally avoiding the story. Anyway, to answer the question I don't think you've thought about how important WP is. In a sense we are already a part of something really vital and effective. What would you do with these feelings and thoughts following the shooting if you didn't have WrongPlanet to use? I think the best thing we can do is throw our support behind already popular and effective avenues of advocacy like WrongPlanet that are run by us and for us.