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14 Jan 2013, 7:19 pm

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Is this my autism?

I am not fazed by death, I'm not afraid of it. When my mother died, I did not cry. At sad movies, I do not cry. I don't really sympathise with people either, I either tell them to grow up or it's their fault. I like taking pictures of dead cats, I think they look cool. I once watched videos of people committing suicide and I wasn't horrified by it at all. My Auntie told me she nearly died and it didn't affect me, same with my granddad dying.

I remember once when I was young my sister left me to play on my own to visit my stepmother at the hospital. I got angry, so I got some scissors and slit her cuddly toys throat? I sometimes have thoughts of blood and gore, which is really weird.

I'm not sure if I'm manipulative.

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I honestly have no idea what is the cause for what you are experiencing. Have you always been like this or are these traits something you developed over time? I do know that I experience some of what you describe, but whatever condition I've got is something I developed over time, many years as a matter of fact.

When I was younger, the deaths of other people actually did have a negative affect on me, but now it does not anywhere near as much as then. About two years ago, the deaths of others affected me not at all, but was actually amusing to me, depending on the circumstances of their death, for instance, the exact cause of death or whether or not it was the fault of the deceased. However, the idea of my own death has always been terrifying to me, even if that has not always been the case in regards to the deaths of others.

I am able to sympathize with others and sometimes empathize if another person is experiencing something bad that I have also experienced in the past. I also have thoughts of blood and gore and sometimes enjoy thinking about it. At one point I was terrified because I thought about those things. Although I have never found anything interesting about dead cats, or ever had a desire to look at or take photos of dead cats, that does not mean that when my family's pets annoyed me, that I did not imagine the most horrible and abusive possible methods of killing them out of frustration. It's usually when I am extremely annoyed or angry that I think about these horrible things. When you imagine violent and gory things, does it normally occur while you are angry or is it all the time, even when you are not angry?

Slitting the throat of the stuffed toy sounds funny. I am not quite sure how that would be out of the ordinary though. You were angry and destroyed something that belonged to your sister. It really isn't any different than destroying any other toy or object she owned, even if you had used a different method to destroy them. The effect would still have been the same.

As far as manipulation goes, I know I am not manipulative, though that might be only be a result of not knowing how to manipulate others, though at times when angry at others, I would certainly be willing to learn how to be manipulative of that person.

If you believe that you have the potential to become extremely violent and dangerous to others, then perhaps you should seek treatment and maybe try to learn what type of disorder you have. If you're not a danger to others, maybe doing extensive research on disorders that have caused people to be violent, dangerous, and/or sadistic, and maybe see if any of them sound like something you might have. When you find a disorder that might be the one you have, do even more research on that disorder in particular. A diagnosis will give you a more definite answer, but I really do not know if it is necessary if you are not a danger to others.



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15 Jan 2013, 10:28 am

Chloe33 wrote:
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You probably have Narcissistic Personality Disorder

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder



ooh, this is an accurate possibility


Absolute BS.



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15 Jan 2013, 10:31 am

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Have you.....

1). Consistently wet the bed after the age of 5?
2). After the age of 7 consistently set fires, destroyed property?
3). After the age of 7 been cruel to animals, harming, or killing them in the process?
4). Are you extremely egotistical and/or Socially dependent?
5). Do you like or enjoy the control and manipulation of others?
6). Have you experienced a Psychotic break or a break from reality as the result of Trauma or some other experience?
7). Do you consider yourself Chaotic Neutral in Alignment?
8). Do you exhibit a chaotic stance regarding life? You are out for yourself, and no one else. You shed no tears for those you harm or malign, whether for sport or your own obvious gain. You have no love for structure, nor to obey laws, traditions, or codes would make you seem normal from a societal standard.


Bump. There's your answer, NateRiver.



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15 Jan 2013, 10:38 am

compiledkernel wrote:
Have you.....

1). Consistently wet the bed after the age of 5?
2). After the age of 7 consistently set fires, destroyed property?
3). After the age of 7 been cruel to animals, harming, or killing them in the process?
4). Are you extremely egotistical and/or Socially dependent?
5). Do you like or enjoy the control and manipulation of others?
6). Have you experienced a Psychotic break or a break from reality as the result of Trauma or some other experience?
7). Do you consider yourself Chaotic Neutral in Alignment?
8). Do you exhibit a chaotic stance regarding life? You are out for yourself, and no one else. You shed no tears for those you harm or malign, whether for sport or your own obvious gain. You have no love for structure, nor to obey laws, traditions, or codes would make you seem normal from a societal standard.


7 really cheered me up :D :lol:



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15 Jan 2013, 10:56 am

Anomiel wrote:
compiledkernel wrote:
Have you.....

1). Consistently wet the bed after the age of 5?
2). After the age of 7 consistently set fires, destroyed property?
3). After the age of 7 been cruel to animals, harming, or killing them in the process?
4). Are you extremely egotistical and/or Socially dependent?
5). Do you like or enjoy the control and manipulation of others?
6). Have you experienced a Psychotic break or a break from reality as the result of Trauma or some other experience?
7). Do you consider yourself Chaotic Neutral in Alignment?
8). Do you exhibit a chaotic stance regarding life? You are out for yourself, and no one else. You shed no tears for those you harm or malign, whether for sport or your own obvious gain. You have no love for structure, nor to obey laws, traditions, or codes would make you seem normal from a societal standard.


Bump. There's your answer, NateRiver.


Well if you don't find yourself in those questions, you are very likely NOT a psychopath.
Here is your answer. :wink:

But maybe still a little...! :lol:
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15 Jan 2013, 11:17 am

Rascal77s wrote:
compiledkernel wrote:
Have you.....

1). Consistently wet the bed after the age of 5?
2). After the age of 7 consistently set fires, destroyed property?
3). After the age of 7 been cruel to animals, harming, or killing them in the process?
4). Are you extremely egotistical and/or Socially dependent?
5). Do you like or enjoy the control and manipulation of others?
6). Have you experienced a Psychotic break or a break from reality as the result of Trauma or some other experience?
7). Do you consider yourself Chaotic Neutral in Alignment?
8). Do you exhibit a chaotic stance regarding life? You are out for yourself, and no one else. You shed no tears for those you harm or malign, whether for sport or your own obvious gain. You have no love for structure, nor to obey laws, traditions, or codes would make you seem normal from a societal standard.


7 really cheered me up :D :lol:


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15 Jan 2013, 11:21 am

Anomiel wrote:
Rascal77s wrote:
compiledkernel wrote:
Have you.....

1). Consistently wet the bed after the age of 5?
2). After the age of 7 consistently set fires, destroyed property?
3). After the age of 7 been cruel to animals, harming, or killing them in the process?
4). Are you extremely egotistical and/or Socially dependent?
5). Do you like or enjoy the control and manipulation of others?
6). Have you experienced a Psychotic break or a break from reality as the result of Trauma or some other experience?
7). Do you consider yourself Chaotic Neutral in Alignment?
8). Do you exhibit a chaotic stance regarding life? You are out for yourself, and no one else. You shed no tears for those you harm or malign, whether for sport or your own obvious gain. You have no love for structure, nor to obey laws, traditions, or codes would make you seem normal from a societal standard.


7 really cheered me up :D :lol:


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LMAO!! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:



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15 Jan 2013, 11:21 am

For me applies question 6 and 7, so I must be a 1/4 Psychopath. :lol:
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15 Jan 2013, 11:33 am

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For me applies question 6 and 7, so I must be a 1/4 Psychopath. :lol:
:wink:


I think your avatar cancels the 1/4 :lol:



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15 Jan 2013, 11:36 am

Rascal77s wrote:
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For me applies question 6 and 7, so I must be a 1/4 Psychopath. :lol:
:wink:


I think your avatar cancels the 1/4 :lol:


I'm a psychopath-cat! :batman:
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Okay, propably not! :lol:
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Well, back to topic:
There are many different reasons to act that way and besides that many ppl are a bit callous unemotional for several different reasons without being a fullblown psychopath.


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15 Jan 2013, 11:50 am

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Firstly, I am on the autistic spectrum because a DOCTOR diagnosed me in 2004. Your comments are rude and ignorant. I do not care for them, but simply ask to keep your manners in check.


wow either you really have no empathy what so ever. Or you have attention seeking behaviors.

Do you want to be a psychopath and that is why you share your symptoms with people?
Being a psychopath/sociopath is nothing to be proud of.

Psychopathic traits are not good ones. Psychopaths have mal intent towards others.

Many psychopaths will make specific remarks to get reactions out of others such as shock, fear, surprise, disgust. They seem to "get off" on those reactions they are getting.



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15 Jan 2013, 12:02 pm

NateRiver wrote:
Is this my autism?


Was it Lanza's Autism that killed 28?
No, Autism is not linked to violence.

What exactly are you diagnosed with? HFA or Aspergers?

You sound volatile very much so. ODD possibly? Conduct Disorder, call it what you will. NPD APD....
Some people have several diagnoses.

For an Autistic person to actually commit and think about such violence is unheard of.
TAKING PICTURES OF DEAD CATS
Cutting the throats of your sisters stuffed animals is SYMBOLIC behavior of VIOLENCE.
The lack of empathy for even close family is disturbing.
Thoughts of Blood and Gore..

All these factors you have described for us are not good at all. There is a levels of malevolence involved in your actions towards your sister leaving and cutting the toys' throats.

However you seemed to have experienced a lot of death in the family.
Did you really not care at all when your famiily members died?
Possibly all the death surrounding you has led to your interest in dead cats and you thoughts of blood and gore.

Definitely you should see a therapist/psychologist and talk about it at the very least.



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15 Jan 2013, 12:14 pm

NateRiver wrote:
Is this my autism?

I am not fazed by death, I'm not afraid of it. When my mother died, I did not cry. At sad movies, I do not cry. I don't really sympathise with people either, I either tell them to grow up or it's their fault. I like taking pictures of dead cats, I think they look cool. I once watched videos of people committing suicide and I wasn't horrified by it at all. My Auntie told me she nearly died and it didn't affect me, same with my granddad dying.

I remember once when I was young my sister left me to play on my own to visit my stepmother at the hospital. I got angry, so I got some scissors and slit her cuddly toys throat? I sometimes have thoughts of blood and gore, which is really weird.

I'm not sure if I'm manipulative.

Yeah.


No, you're not. You're a normal autistic. I am the same way in some ways, but seeing other people emotional makes me emotional. I sometimes have to fight away the embarrassing urge to cry during movies. If someone cries in front of me, it makes me very sad also and want to cry. But the idea of pain in other people, if I don't see it myself, if it just exists abstractly, does not affect me really at all.

The childhood stuff is disturbing. But many children are like that. If you don't do that anymore, I wouldn't worry. The idea of your mother dying and it not affecting you is a bit troubling, if it was recent. If you were a child, it doesn't matter as much. I doubt I would have cried if my mother had died at age 10. But I would definitely do so now. I had ODD and always thought about violence as a child, I wanted to kill my father and poison my brother, multiple times, but I grew out of it; I'd never dream of hurting anyone now. I think it's pretty typical for children with autism to have ODD in this way. What's important is whether you grow out of it or not. If most of these things are from childhood, rather than recent occurrences, then I wouldn't worry.

I also didn't cry when my grandmother died (at age 17) -- but I hardly knew her anyway!!

We can do emotional empathy. We just can't do abstract empathy. The latter is stupid and useless anyway.



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15 Jan 2013, 12:21 pm

Psychopathy misdiagnosed as Aspergers? In any case, it's an interesting article to read:

http://www.psychforums.com/antisocial-p ... 95281.html

It seems there's been cases due to the lack of empathy criteria in which diagnostic mistakes can be made, or it is hard for certain
individuals to make the proper diagnosis NPD, APD, ASD.



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15 Jan 2013, 12:23 pm

Tyri0n wrote:
No, you're not. You're a normal autistic. I am the same way, but seeing other people emotional makes me emotional.


Those things he described are decidedly not just because of autism. I actually feel offended by that.



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15 Jan 2013, 12:26 pm

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Psychopathy misdiagnosed as Aspergers? In any case, it's an interesting article to read:

http://www.psychforums.com/antisocial-p ... 95281.html


Do you have a scientific article or a study on this subject?
Just curious.


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