I am the only person I know like this in real life
Don’t under estimate the power of beauty, men and woman are designed by nature to fall for how we look alone. I’m sure most men would skip conversation and personality if Angelina Jolie wanted sex with them.
How can you knock a young mind obviously over proud with his own adventures, isn’t arrogance a trait of aspergers, this is easily detected in the way he expresses himself between the lines.
He doesn’t sound like a sociopath to me. Maybe the girls were taking advantage of him, I know girls took advantage of me when I was younger.
He just sounds young to me, that doesn't make him a sociopath.
He doesn't want to share his photo, even by pm, so in my opinion he's probably good looking and doesn't want people saying it's obvious where his social success is coming from as it spoils this 'anyone can learn how to be like me' angle he's promoting in the book he's writing.
Just my theory.
I'm suspicious of anyone who isn't fully open to question - it usually suggests they are being economical with the truth
and/or an alternative agenda.
Hey OP,
Out of all the people I know, the one who has the most success with women--actually, the most success with people--is definitely one of my best friends. Years ago, I asked him how he got good with women, and he said he found a bunch of guys who were good with women, and studies what they did, and studied what women did, studied body language and facial expressions, and practiced.
I thought he was kidding until we both took the AQ test, and he scored a 37.
Yes, it's possible. My trouble isn't that I could not learn how to navigate those waters, it's that I do not care to. I find the stuff NT people like to be quite shallow and boring. If you can teach me how to get girls easily, but they only want to have sex, dance, watch sports or TV, and go to bars/clubs but never want to have a really deep conversation about anything, then I will not feel like the sex is meaningful, I will not feel like I'm connecting, and I will not have learned anything of value from you.
My friend, however, is very happy with his skills and has had many girlfriends, usually sticking with one for a few years at a time. If this is what you want, he did it, I'm glad you can do it, and thanks for sharing.
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Don’t under estimate the power of beauty, men and woman are designed by nature to fall for how we look alone. I’m sure most men would skip conversation and personality if Angelina Jolie wanted sex with them.
How can you knock a young mind obviously over proud with his own adventures, isn’t arrogance a trait of aspergers, this is easily detected in the way he expresses himself between the lines.
He doesn’t sound like a sociopath to me. Maybe the girls were taking advantage of him, I know girls took advantage of me when I was younger.
He just sounds young to me, that doesn't make him a sociopath.
He doesn't want to share his photo, even by pm, so in my opinion he's probably good looking and doesn't want people saying it's obvious where his social success is coming from as it spoils this 'anyone can learn how to be like me' angle he's promoting in the book he's writing.
Just my theory.
I'm suspicious of anyone who isn't fully open to question - it usually suggests they are being economical with the truth
and/or an alternative agenda.
Oh so he's writing a book about his "social success". He didn't put this in his post, did he tell you this by PM? Maybe this is why he's proclaiming it on here and asking whether he's alone in his "success", to be sure there is a market for his book. He's so very sure of himself, I'm surprised he hasn't just gone ahead and written it anyway!
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Don’t under estimate the power of beauty, men and woman are designed by nature to fall for how we look alone. I’m sure most men would skip conversation and personality if Angelina Jolie wanted sex with them.
How can you knock a young mind obviously over proud with his own adventures, isn’t arrogance a trait of aspergers, this is easily detected in the way he expresses himself between the lines.
He doesn’t sound like a sociopath to me. Maybe the girls were taking advantage of him, I know girls took advantage of me when I was younger.
He just sounds young to me, that doesn't make him a sociopath.
He doesn't want to share his photo, even by pm, so in my opinion he's probably good looking and doesn't want people saying it's obvious where his social success is coming from as it spoils this 'anyone can learn how to be like me' angle he's promoting in the book he's writing.
Just my theory.
I'm suspicious of anyone who isn't fully open to question - it usually suggests they are being economical with the truth
and/or an alternative agenda.
Oh so he's writing a book about his "social success". He didn't put this in his post, did he tell you this by PM? Maybe this is why he's proclaiming it on here and asking whether he's alone in his "success", to be sure there is a market for his book. He's so very sure of himself, I'm surprised he hasn't just gone ahead and written it anyway!
"I'm actually in the process of writing a book for men with Aspergers on how to become attractive to women. I am using this website to gain additional references for problems typically suffered by aspie males when it comes to dating."
He did state it in one of his posts - his third or fourth post.
His methods need to be put to the test by other aspie males in my opinion, to see if it's all about technique or just about
a person's looks/innate charisma (as I suspect)
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examples of social competence that transcends that of average neurotypicals:
-Attracting women, I have had sex with three different girls in the last two months. I read somewhere that the average neurotypical man only manages to obtain seven sexual partners in a lifetime
Kind of. I have actually dated attractive women who were interested in me in the past. But never actually did it with them.
Not at all. But then again, I never walked into a nightclub and made out with an attractive woman within seconds after setting our eyes on each other. ['our' is referring to the attractive woman and I]
Definitely. I am the center of attention when I'm around my group of friends, making them laugh with my jokes.
Kind of. I do have a group of good friends that I get together with on a frequent basis to do things. But those things usually don't include 'having awesome adventures in town' although we will occasionally feel like going to a club event in the city.
Yes, in the sense that I am confident in doing these things as well. But probably not as confident as you judging by your OP.
I have a friend who has been dx Aspergers. Now he can have no boundaries and stand too close or may touch someone and poke at somebody (similar to what OP said) now it seems the lack of boundaries in some Aspies can vary. He doesn't read others well at all.
Another confusing thing is that my Asperger friend had cognitive and learning delays all through school until high school. To my knowledge he does fit the Aspie diagnosis to a T, it's just that doesn't fit the criteria of diagnosis and i've never ever seen him stim.
Yet he got diagnosed Aspergers by someone. At one point, the military doctor had him diagnosed as Schitzoaffective as well.
Now he really fits the diagnosis aside from the fact that he actually did have cognitive learning delays in school.
He will talk to people who aren't interested and keep on talking.
Its hard i guess with multiple diagnosis'. I thought it was set in stone for Aspergers no cognitive delays were present early on. Yet in my friends case he had the delays and is still diagnosed Aspie.
examples of social competence that transcends that of average neurotypicals:
-Attracting women, I have had sex with three different girls in the last two months. I read somewhere that the average neurotypical man only manages to obtain seven sexual partners in a lifetime
-walking up to attractive women in nightclubs and making out with them within a few seconds of meeting with little to no verbal communication between us. I have kissed 22 hot girls in the last year.
-Making pretty much everybody roar with laughter at my jokes and anecdotes at social gatherings, generally being the center of attention.
-Endearing myself to people extremely quickly and effectively. I have a decently sized group of friends who share my obsessive interest with getting good with girls and mastering charisma and psychology. We meet up regularly and have awesome adventures in town.
-I am extremely confident in high pressure social situations such as approaching women in clubs and public speaking, most nuerotypicals find these tasks intimidating, I have learned to overcome this fear. Most neurotypicals drink to become uninhibited and enjoy more intimate or sexual social interaction, I am able to achieve a similar loosened up, extroverted state while completely sober.
I strongly believe that Aspies are capable of incredible feats of social competence and charisma when we direct our obsessive devotion and high intelligence to tackling the problem of social interaction. I have yet to see another aspie who has managed to do what I've done in real life though, I'm now seeing if I can find any online, I know I can't be the only Aspie who dominates the social sphere in this manor. So, I ask, has anybody else on here managed to cure their own social awkwardness, master charisma, get lots of hot girls, get great friends or any of those other achievements typical of the socially advanced? Even if I don't find anyone else who is like me I hope I can at least inspire other aspies to follow my example and master social skills.
I wouldn't consider those social achievements, I just think your primitive and there's nothing intelligent, special, or decent about you. I like how you come on here boasting you sleep with many women expecting to get a pat on the back when in fact your just making things awkward and embarrassing yourself. I like how the media and society has twisted your mind into thinking that keeping "score" and telling the world about it grants you status and recognition. Truth is no one cares about where your dick has been and your no different from every animal on earth who gives into their primal urges. This is disgusting. one of these days your going to get someone pregnant or acquire a lifelong STD, lets see how proud of your achievements you are then.
I know I've edited this like 6 times but It is hard for me to get my thoughts into words sometimes. But this is what I feel.
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I applaud this statement.
Balderdash. Would you say the same thing about a young man having casual sex? I do agree with you about the OP showing signs of sociopathy, though. It was my first thought, reading his post.
It’s no different for anyone, aspergers or not, being attractive to the opposite sex is individual, confidence plays a big role.
Charisma can’t be picked up like somebody’s walk you take a shine to, true charisma depends on how you project yourself, how you are perceived by others.
A person who talks softly and inspires you to listen to what they have to say shows charisma.
Somebody with a loose tongue and an eagerness to exploit their antics lacks charisma.
No, I can't say I'm like you at all, OP -- and I can't say I want to be, either. I don't do those things because they don't bring me any sense of fulfillment, or even any stimulation of the base desires.
You seem to treat women as trophies rather than love interests or even people. You only describe them in terms of how "hot" they are, or how quickly you can bed them, but never mention how they made you feel or what attracted you to them other than looks.
You measure your social success as how hard you can make people laugh, and your "social group" consists of other predatory and shallow men.
And you say all of this with a naive sense of confidence and pride, as if you are setting some great example for those around you. I honestly feel more pity and disgust than envy or admiration. I'll grant that it's "interesting" what you've managed to accomplish, but I really think you should see a professional if you aren't already. This all sounds very unhealthy and destructive.
You seem to treat women as trophies rather than love interests or even people. You only describe them in terms of how "hot" they are, or how quickly you can bed them, but never mention how they made you feel or what attracted you to them other than looks.
You measure your social success as how hard you can make people laugh, and your "social group" consists of other predatory and shallow men.
And you say all of this with a naive sense of confidence and pride, as if you are setting some great example for those around you. I honestly feel more pity and disgust than envy or admiration. I'll grant that it's "interesting" what you've managed to accomplish, but I really think you should see a professional if you aren't already. This all sounds very unhealthy and destructive.
Well apart from the stuff about learning how to do it all, it sounds like a typical young man talking - many are like this as far as their attitude to women is concerned.
'Hot' women have been discussed before now on the Love and Dating forum
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You seem to treat women as trophies rather than love interests or even people. You only describe them in terms of how "hot" they are, or how quickly you can bed them, but never mention how they made you feel or what attracted you to them other than looks.
You measure your social success as how hard you can make people laugh, and your "social group" consists of other predatory and shallow men.
And you say all of this with a naive sense of confidence and pride, as if you are setting some great example for those around you. I honestly feel more pity and disgust than envy or admiration. I'll grant that it's "interesting" what you've managed to accomplish, but I really think you should see a professional if you aren't already. This all sounds very unhealthy and destructive.
Well apart from the stuff about learning how to do it all, it sounds like a typical young man talking - many are like this as far as their attitude to women is concerned.
I think you underestimate the typical young man. A lot are misguided, but most aren't quite so... psychopathic. But then, maybe I have too much faith in people.
You seem to treat women as trophies rather than love interests or even people. You only describe them in terms of how "hot" they are, or how quickly you can bed them, but never mention how they made you feel or what attracted you to them other than looks.
You measure your social success as how hard you can make people laugh, and your "social group" consists of other predatory and shallow men.
And you say all of this with a naive sense of confidence and pride, as if you are setting some great example for those around you. I honestly feel more pity and disgust than envy or admiration. I'll grant that it's "interesting" what you've managed to accomplish, but I really think you should see a professional if you aren't already. This all sounds very unhealthy and destructive.
Well apart from the stuff about learning how to do it all, it sounds like a typical young man talking - many are like this as far as their attitude to women is concerned.
I think you underestimate the typical young man. A lot are misguided, but most aren't quite so... psychopathic. But then, maybe I have too much faith in people.
Nope I've had a gutful of male attitudes to women throughout my life and take it from me most of the younger ones are constantly on the lookout for 'hot women'. I know this because I have the misfortune to appear 'hot' from a distance but not close up so I am endlessly scrutinised and dismissed when they realise they've made a 'mistake'.
So do not tell me a LOT of men aren't like this when I know it from my own experience!
