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02 Feb 2013, 5:12 pm

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Doctor and lawyer and cop show shows on TV
say no more


?


for those that know no explanation is necessary
for those that dont
none are possible



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02 Feb 2013, 5:18 pm

OK. This must be yet another area where despite my verbal skills and high intelligence I am yet again, clueless. If this is humour, I frequently don't get that either, sorry. :oops:


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02 Feb 2013, 10:38 pm

its not humour
think about it
a bit



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02 Feb 2013, 10:56 pm

l've read similar threads here but they were mostly about talking slow, and l started to feel bad.

l have a family member who's father is almost definitely an aspie. The only real trait l've seen in her is the slow talking. l do interrupt her and do feel awful about it. But the other part of it is that she tells really anticlimactic stories.

REALLY, really anticlimactic stories that take a long time to unfold. But, l have stopped myself from doing that. lt's just rude and when l watch other people do it l feel bad.

l agree with what's said in this thread about talking softly, it's that and she has a sort of tone where you can't even tell what directions her words are going on.

Myself am a lightening speed talker like some in this thread have said.


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03 Feb 2013, 2:07 am

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I have the opposite problem. I usually interrupt others, because I don't like listening to them talk on and on and on about boring topics. When I get the meaning, I tend to cut them off, because I don't want to hear all the waste words. I have auditory and speech processing problems, so that is probably why I like people to speak meaning in fewer words. I also like it when people speak in small words. When people speak in big words, I usually drill them to get them to the level of small words and clear idears, but I find that many people can't go there, because they don't ackshuly understand what they are talking about, but the big words make them sound smart.

I have noticed that nts are not so good at handling details. So they would interrupt you, because too many details, and I would interrupt you, because too much talking.

I interrupt people too. But sometimes, people don't seem to realize I'l talking to them or something, and they start talking over me. Either I'm missing some cues, not using cues appropriately myself, or a mix of the two.



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03 Feb 2013, 6:15 am

Surfman wrote:
its not humour
think about it
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I don't get it either.

Please to be less obscure? :(


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03 Feb 2013, 11:48 am

Yes, we Aspies struggle with obscurity! :?


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03 Feb 2013, 1:16 pm

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If you guys can find a solution I'd really like to know...very outspoken group, we are.


.maybe we should use a loud-hailer... 8O

What would help is voice training. Namely, knowing how to project your voice, namely, to make it boom and carry. Think about how drill sergeants, stand-up comedians, or opera singers talk. They don't yell; yelling is for anger. But when they give commands, a speech, or a performance, they talk in a voice that can be heard from across the room. Without a microphone.

We aspies, due to shyness that comes from being mistreated since becoming self-aware and/or lack of social intuition, tend to talk in a dull, quiet voice. It doesn't boom. It doesn't carry. So when we talk, it's easy for people to bush it off as background noise and ignore it. Yelling doesn't help, because it's still the same dull, quiet voice, only in a higher volume. NTs will still ignore you, even if they turn around to see who yelled. For an animal equivalent, consider the difference between a yap of a dachshund and a woof of German shepherd. They're both dog barks, right? Same volume at times, even. But what a difference!

It's not much different for people, sadly. I'm not sure what's exactly required for projecting your voice. I vaguely know it's something about using your diaphragm and not just your vocal chords. It's easy to understand the concept, but hard to master the act. There are plenty of books and videos out there, but I think a class with a professional instructor would be your best bet.


On this excellent point, I'd like to recommend the book "The Right to Speak" by Patsy Rodenburg.

I'm still working on this myself, but it's very very good - it has lots of exercises which help to develop a clear, interesting and authoritative speaking voice, and interesting discussions about the effects this has on others and your own confidence as well. It's aimed at actors and singers but is equally good for anyone who struggles with speech issues the way aspies do.



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03 Feb 2013, 2:42 pm

chlov wrote:
If people try to interrupt me, they can't, because I go on talking, no matter what. Most of the times it's me interrupting others.


That's me!