Are Aspies a bunch of entitled brats?

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12 Feb 2013, 7:55 pm

Hmm.. I think some Aspies are brought up to expect special treatment, but then again, that's very common of the new generation. Many kids and teens - not all! - I know are brought up to be incredibly self-centered and narcissistic, so it really could be either one or a combination of both.



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12 Feb 2013, 7:57 pm

Disraeli wrote:
I know a kid who is about 16, and he's one of these kids whose mom tells him he's special and all his problems are because of the world, that he doesn't need to change because he's 'special" just the way he is. The problem is, that no one is really special.

This kid is a bit of a brat and thinks that just because he has autism the world should serve everything to him on a silver platter. The question is, is this common amongst Aspie kids or just a symptom of a larger cultural phenomena?


Sounds like upper middle class white kids in general are entitled brats. I grew up with a family income of half the poverty line for a family of 4 (except we had 9 kids), and I had to work for everything I have. And I didn't get diagnosed till last November. So I'm pretty sure not all aspies are entitled brats, though the ones diagnosed as children might be on average more likely to be as a result of the fact that childhood diagnoses may be more likely to occur among socio-economic demographics that tend to be spoiled regardless of neurological configuration.



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12 Feb 2013, 7:58 pm

Seems like these days, due to cultural influence and societal pressure everyone became a secondary psychopath in one way or another.
I'm a chaotic-good half-elf fighter/mage/thief according to self modified 4th edition DSM rules. I'm too chaotic to be a paladin, clerics tend to make me want to puke with their self righteousness no matter their alignment, rangers and druids hug trees and animals too much and barbarians drink too much booze for my taste. I might mature real slow, but wait till you see my tricks (I cheat a lot too) :wink:



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12 Feb 2013, 8:34 pm

Do I detect a hint of resentment & jealousy in the OPs post? I think I do, even if faint...
Everyone deep in their heart wants to be entitled, to something.
I bet if he experienced what the AS person goes through on a weekly basis, you would start moderating your tone.
On the other hand, his Mom may be pampering him way to much. Thus creating more problems with a person who has difficulty with social cues..

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12 Feb 2013, 8:49 pm

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The "Entitlement Generation" is an all-encompassing plague that has managed to burrow itself deep within the brains of our Western culture; it has little to do with ASDs.


In my case, my son is not a 'spoilt brat' but I certainly cut him some slack, more than I would my daughter or other children. His teacher does also, give him a couple of extra minutes to draw etc. When someone's day to day life is an uphill battle, then every little bit of joy you can give makes a difference.

I grew up in time when corporal punishment was still around and children were seen and not heard - this was not right either. Unfortunately, the pendulum has swung a little too far the other way - tricky to find a happy medium


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12 Feb 2013, 9:49 pm

Without first hand experience I don't see the point in speculating.

I'd also say generational generalizations are bound to piss a lot of people off. Boomers have absolutely no right to call younger generations "entitled" when they are probably the most lucky and entitled generation ever.



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12 Feb 2013, 10:22 pm

Disraeli wrote:
I know a kid who is about 16, and he's one of these kids whose mom tells him he's special and all his problems are because of the world, that he doesn't need to change because he's 'special" just the way he is. The problem is, that no one is really special.

This kid is a bit of a brat and thinks that just because he has autism the world should serve everything to him on a silver platter. The question is, is this common amongst Aspie kids or just a symptom of a larger cultural phenomena?


There are neurotypicals like that as well.


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12 Feb 2013, 10:27 pm

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I agree with the post above.

He will sooner or later have to face the facts. AS is a diagnosis that is better than being mislabeled and being called ret*d, slow, halfwit or anything like that. But it should not be used as an excuse for being different and antisocial or asocial.


Well it kind of does cause us to be different and might cause some a-socialness, not so sure about anti-social though since that actually refers to going out of your way to be a jerk. I assume asocial would simply mean they aren't as engaged in social interaction as others. Therefore AS is a valid reason rather than excuse for being different and asocial since those are common effects of it.


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12 Feb 2013, 10:59 pm

CyborgUprising wrote:
The "Entitlement Generation" is an all-encompassing plague that has managed to burrow itself deep within the brains of our Western culture; it has little to do with ASDs.


But unfortunately it's mostly the ASD folk that get called out on it while the NTs get away with being hypocrites. Isn't that always how it is?



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13 Feb 2013, 12:12 am

redrobin62 wrote:
<--- Wishes he was an entitled brat.

Agreed. I would like not to be looked down upon for misunderstanding others and having limited interests.



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13 Feb 2013, 12:23 am

I think for meny Aspies if their moms and dads didn't tell them often there special they would never hear or beleave it. What they would hear is the usual bullying and belittleing that leads to things like depression and low self worth, nice thoughts.

I know meny kids feel entitled becouse I went to school with them, they felt the rest of should be at their beck and call and had a very low level of respect for others and would often be the bully and belittler I mentioned above.



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13 Feb 2013, 12:50 am

Disraeli wrote:
I know a kid who is about 16, and he's one of these kids whose mom tells him he's special and all his problems are because of the world, that he doesn't need to change because he's 'special" just the way he is. The problem is, that no one is really special.

This kid is a bit of a brat and thinks that just because he has autism the world should serve everything to him on a silver platter. The question is, is this common amongst Aspie kids or just a symptom of a larger cultural phenomena?


Agree with the consensus that the child is merely been groomed to be self deluded. Of course I totally understand the mother's attitude, she only wants whats best for her child, she just went about it the wrong way.



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13 Feb 2013, 2:28 am

who cares if his mother is making him feel that way? . My dad says that to me, and its because being out in the real world makes me feel worthless and broken. i dont see it as a problem with it, in fact i wish MY mom said that to me, she always asked me "whats wrong with you?!" and it made me feel like crap. i envy this kid, you shouldnt call him a brat for not giving a s**t about the outside world.



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13 Feb 2013, 3:23 am

rapidroy wrote:
I think for meny Aspies if their moms and dads didn't tell them often there special they would never hear or beleave it. What they would hear is the usual bullying and belittleing that leads to things like depression and low self worth, nice thoughts.

I know meny kids feel entitled becouse I went to school with them, they felt the rest of should be at their beck and call and had a very low level of respect for others and would often be the bully and belittler I mentioned above.


I agree with this. My mom tries to tell me all the time what a wonderful person I am, but I don't believe it. I was bullied as a child and so developed low self-esteem and a generally melancholy attitude that has been hanging over me like a dark cloud ever since I can remember. If I didn't have someone in my life to reassure me that I'm not totally worthless, then I would feel like a total waste of oxygen.



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13 Feb 2013, 3:47 am

Sounds like bad parenting on the part of his mom.

If his mom had said "you're special, but the world cant handle your specialness-so you have to adapt to the world because the world wont adapt to you- by being aware X, Y, and Z" that would be different.



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13 Feb 2013, 11:57 am

Disraeli wrote:
The problem is, that no one is really special.


thats what really makes me angry, if im not anymore special then anyone else at my school, then why the hell am i getting garbage thrown at me and then the biggest a**hole in the school has 5000 friends and is praised everyday, at that point you stop believing that everyone is equal