Can sexual abuse as a child cause ASD?
Ettina wrote:
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I can understand why somebody would shut down after an experience like that, but not at the age of four. I thought the parent was a how a child could tell right from wrong until age seven.
Two problems with that.
Firstly, the research shows pretty clearly that 4 year olds have a sense of right from wrong, and it does not depend on parental rules. Research has found that children as young as 3 or 4 (basically as soon as they can understand the questions) describe a difference between things that are against the rules (but the rules could change) and things that are wrong regardless of rules, and consider things that harm others to be wrong regardless of rules. Research into autistic kids has also demonstrated that this moral/conventional distinction has no relationship with theory of mind performance.
Secondly, a kid doesn't have to know something is wrong to be hurt by it. Abusers often convince kids that the abuse is justified in some way, telling them they brought it on themselves, or it's an expression of love, or something like that. And many kids believe this, and don't realize what happened to them was actually abuse. However, they still show the exact same cluster of psychological problems associated with abuse - low self-esteem, acting out, body image/eating disorders, anxiety and depression, dissociative disorders and so forth. In fact, if anything, it hurts worse for these kids, because they blame themselves and have no framework to explain their problems.
I stand corrected.
Tyri0n wrote:
So is it possible that I actually have Asperger's, then, and losing my ability to speak was related to the abuse but not the ASD? The main reason I got a PDD-NOS diagnosis was because of the fact that I lost and had to relearn verbal communication skills. I guess they counted that as a "language delay."
Also, current lack of stims, though they only mentioned hand-flapping and rocking, which I haven't done since childhood, and totally ignored other possible stims, like hair-pulling and pinching, which I still do in public.
So possible I actually have Asperger's and not PDD-NOS?
IMO the most likely scenario was that it was related to both--you were on the autism spectrum to begin with, which made speech harder for you, which made it more likely that when you got really stressed out, you dropped that skill. When people with ASDs lose speech to the point of having to relearn it, it usually comes at a stressful time in life--early childhood, when demands on speech and behavior suddenly increase and the autistic child typically falls noticeably behind. I've also seen some reports of it happening at puberty, which is also a pretty hectic time, physically and mentally.
Also, current lack of stims, though they only mentioned hand-flapping and rocking, which I haven't done since childhood, and totally ignored other possible stims, like hair-pulling and pinching, which I still do in public.
So possible I actually have Asperger's and not PDD-NOS?
I'd still say PDD-NOS because of your history of loss of speech, because there is no way of knowing whether it would have happened if your source of stress had been something more benign and more expected to be a part of an average child's life, for example, a move or a new sibling. Since there's no way to tell, and no knowing whether you had comorbid selective mutism, PDD-NOS is close enough. Anyway, when it comes to ASDs, the specific diagnosis is often unimportant so long as it gets you whatever services/accommodations you need. The specific ASD label doesn't give professionals any more information than just "autism spectrum disorder" does. Sometimes it's even worse, if the specific ASD involves stereotypes that aren't true about you, like getting labeled Asperger's and then having your self-care or executive functioning difficulties completely ignored. I wouldn't worry about it; the diagnostic labels are pretty messed up the way they are. Just plain "autistic" is good enough for me.
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cyberdad wrote:
I'm sorry this topic makes me really angry!
I normally don't hate people but the people who do this to children (espcially vulnerable children) deserve to be isolated from society forever.
I normally don't hate people but the people who do this to children (espcially vulnerable children) deserve to be isolated from society forever.
I'm more a fan of letting them choose between life in prison/death in more serious cases and castration in exchange for having their criminal record wiped clean or imprisonment for 20 years + release and castration for the most serious cases.
This would allow them to potentially repent and be rehabilitated. It's constitutional and not cruel and unusual punishment if it's chosen voluntarily as an alternative to death or a prison sentence.
The current system of release and then letting communities stigmatize them is both ineffective and inhumane. A system that involves voluntary castration + sex hormone gland removal would be far superior. In addition, these things are partially genetic, so castration or execution of all sex offenders, and perhaps complicit family members, would cause the genes to die out.
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Joe90 wrote:
I knew a boy that lived near us who (we figured out) was having sexual abuse at a very young age. He knew everything about sex at the age of 6, and he always used to run up and down laughing quite manically when he saw anything to do with sex, like a condom thrown on the ground or something, and his friends (like my brother) didn't even know about condoms and all of that sort of stuff yet.
I had no idea what a condom was for until I saw Deep Throat as a freshman in college.
