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05 Mar 2013, 12:26 pm

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I've been having this almost permanently for years on a much smaller scale.

JellyCat, thank you for your reply. Based on reading others, i notice there seems to be a correlation between duration and intensity of the episode.

In my case the duration was shorter but was much more extreme. In your case the duration is much longer but much less extreme.

I am wondering if there are cases of long duration and extreme intensity. That would probably be the worst case of all.

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05 Mar 2013, 2:20 pm

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for example, i could hear the sound of my hair on my head, and my feet as i walked on carpet.
what i mean by hair is movement of my hair, rubbing on each other, that sound was magnified.
it was as loud as a jet engine! booming! screeching into my ears! it was very awful, very scary!

While not as loud as you are describing I remember being kept awake at night be sound my pillow made when my head "sank in" . I can still hear it today if I listen for it.

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when i tried to walk, a single step, felt magnified by 1000, a single step felt like i moved warp.
i felt like i could move to the other side of the room in one step. like space/time compression.
when i moved my head, or my arm, the distance and rate of movement felt magnified greatly.
and always with the extreme severe awful loudness like a rock concert speaker on full power.

I remember having this a lot when I was younger. I still have it now but it seems to be triggered only when I am tired or been reading for a long time. it feels like time slowing down while I am moving at normal speed, I also feel very large and bloated while I'm actually very skinny. I can make it disappear by looking at the second-hand on the clock ( or something else that moves at regular intervals) only for it to return the moment I look away.
It never lasts longer than a couple of minutes and without the sound magnification.

I never did drugs or even alcohol and I'm anti-medication (only when doctor prescribes some ) and never been on any long term medication

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05 Mar 2013, 8:39 pm

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While not as loud as you are describing I remember being kept awake at night be sound my pillow made when my head "sank in" . I can still hear it today if I listen for it.

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M305 thank you for your reply. I feel very glad to finally meet someone who experienced pretty much the same things as me. The common points are: it happened more often at childhood, the same extreme magnification of movement and senses. As for body proportion, i am height 167 cm, weight 57 kg, i am considered a slim guy, but i still feel like i am fat, in fact i want to be thinner. But i do not have any eating disorders, i love eating much delicious foods, even though i do not gain weight.

For decades i had always thought i am the only one who experienced these things. It was a big mystery in my life. Now i am learning more about it. I am so curious about how these episodes were triggered and why.

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06 Mar 2013, 4:33 am

It's because our awesome brains process sensory information faster than the holographic universe can compute & project it, Neo. Welcome to The Matrix.

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06 Mar 2013, 6:18 am

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I am wondering, did you feel any sudden temperature change on your body? like a sudden heat or sudden cold? I had another weird experience, but no sensory overload and no magnification. It was very different. I could feel a ball of moving coldness, it started in the base of my spinal cord and rose up, into the base of my neck and into my skull cavity. The closest description i can say is "coolness" or "icy cold" that rises. Anyway once it moved into my skull i felt the same kind of universal, wonderful beauty and peace around me, similar to what you describe. It sounds crazy, but i felt i knew in that sudden moment what "The Universe" really was, like i knew in that short moment, the secret of all existence. I was so sure and at peace. Then the coldness slowly faded out, and i felt deteriorated or lesser than the moment before. I cannot explain it. In all cases no drugs, no medicine, nothing.

No I don't recall coldness. The other thing that I do remember about that day was that it was a perfectly ordinary day. I was sitting in my mum's kitchen when it started, not happy, or sad or anything in particular at all.
I had thought about the possibility that someone in the area had smoked something, but I had never smelled anything that day or before, and no-one smoked in my mum's house. That is such an unlikely explanation, and one reason I don't generally talk about it is that I think people will think that is what must have happened. Plus I know they would not understand unless they had experienced something similar.

I do wonder what exactly happens in the brain when people take drugs and is it what my brain did, but without the drugs.

By the way, I also used to hallucinate almost every night as I was falling asleep. I'd see a big spider or parrot or chinese dragon or something in the room, kind of like a shadow, then I would get alarmed, and jump up and turn on the light, and of course nothing would be there. Later, I'd put my arm through it and it would disappear. But eventually I just held my nerve, and looked at it (whatever it was) and waited to see if it disappeared. It did not, until I put my arm through it.

I think maybe I am starting to dream before I am fully asleep. I sometimes ignore it now, unless it is a big spider walking across the ceiling. I obviously can't dismiss that because it could actually be real. Not that it happens mush anymore.

Geez, I am starting to think I am a bit of a weirdo.

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06 Mar 2013, 6:34 am

@BlackSabre7:

Do you also have a diagnosis of ADD/ADHD in addition to AS?

In my reading about ADHD I came across a description of a trait that matched what I'd seen, my sister recalls seeing, and what a friend of mine also described - dark shadowy shapes/figures kind of creeping around the walls/ceilings prior to falling asleep.. resulting in being damn near petrified in fear. I remember being so terrified that I couldn't have screamed if I wanted to, and then I guess I'd pass out and fall asleep ?? I can't recall, it's been ~20 years since. I don't recall ever seeing spiders/dragons etc, just sort of shadowy ghosty figures and at one point I suppose my imagination took over and I perceived them as people in dark shadowy robes - like some sort of scary looking druids or something.

Anyways, this night terror hallucination symptom can be present in people w/ ADHD and it's not likely some other mental affliction.

I have my theories as to what may have caused them in myself, and possibly others, now that I've learned so much more about all of this stuff - but I can't be certain unless I were to find a child w/ ADD/ADHD that was currently experiencing those sorts of hallucinations at night just before falling asleep and then did a (harmless) experiment or two to see if it made them stop. (by trying multiple ADHD treatments that have helped me with many other symptoms.)

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06 Mar 2013, 9:15 am

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I have not been not properly diagnosed with AS as yet. The psychology dept at Uni gave me a questionairre as part of a study to confirm that I was NT, before participation, and I failed it miserably. They told me they were pretty sure I was AS, and I have agreed to go back and be tested properly as soon as the dept expert is available, probably in 2 weeks. I will definitely tell her about this, and get her opinion. I never told anyone before, except maybe once in idle conversation with someone. I don't even think my mother knows.

The hallucinations were all shadowy, but a couple of times they were red or green in colour. Usually black though. But I could usually identify what it was. Probably the most frequent things were spiders or webs.

Over the years, before they told me I was probably autistic, I thought I might have been OCD or schitzophrenic, (or autistic), but never ADHD. I will be interested in what the psyc doctor or whatever she is, says.

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06 Mar 2013, 10:35 am

MannyBoo wrote:

I do need to say that I don't feel fat or want to be thinner, in fact I think I need to gain some weight rather than lose it. The being bloated sensation is different than actually being fat or feeling fat in day-to-day life.

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For decades i had always thought i am the only one who experienced these things. It was a big mystery in my life. Now i am learning more about it. I am so curious about how these episodes were triggered and why.

You're never "the only one" on anything . there are 6 billion people on this planet and billions more have lived their lives and died, not to mention the billions still to come:D

As for the triggers: since both our experiences happen in the evening/night ( mine all did and for what I've read yours did too) it might be as simple as just being tired. the human mind is known for it's sometimes bizarre behaviour when sleep deprived.

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07 Mar 2013, 7:50 am

goldfish21 wrote:

It's because our awesome brains process sensory information faster than the holographic universe can compute & project it, Neo. Welcome to The Matrix.

When i was a kid there was no Matrix movie yet, so i thought maybe my body somehow made its own natural LSD.

But after learning about Quantum Theory, now i am thinking, maybe we can somehow sense the quantum universe??

Ok Morpheus, i'll have another pill

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07 Mar 2013, 8:09 am

BlackSabre7 wrote:

I do wonder what exactly happens in the brain when people take drugs and is it what my brain did, but without the drugs.

I also thought the same thing. I thought my body was somehow making a natural form of LSD, because i read about the Beatles, 60s, psychedelia, and their acid trips, and it seemed similar to their descriptions. I thought i had an acid trip without taking acid.

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By the way, I also used to hallucinate almost every night as I was falling asleep. I'd see a big spider or parrot or chinese dragon or something in the room, kind of like a shadow, then I would get alarmed, and jump up and turn on the light, and of course nothing would be there. Later, I'd put my arm through it and it would disappear. But eventually I just held my nerve, and looked at it (whatever it was) and waited to see if it disappeared. It did not, until I put my arm through it.
I think maybe I am starting to dream before I am fully asleep. I sometimes ignore it now, unless it is a big spider walking across the ceiling. I obviously can't dismiss that because it could actually be real. Not that it happens mush anymore.
Geez, I am starting to think I am a bit of a weirdo.

I had a similar experience, but not as many kinds of animals as you. In my case it was just one kind of animal every time, a large elephant, or couple of large elephants, and it always had a dark shadow around it. I have no explanation for it either. I have read about people who had similar kinds of dreams. I think you could be right about it as starting to dream before being fully asleep.

I don't think you need to worry about being a wierdo here in Wrong Planet :lol:

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07 Mar 2013, 8:17 am

M305 wrote:

You're never "the only one" on anything . there are 6 billion people on this planet and billions more have lived their lives and died, not to mention the billions still to come:D
As for the triggers: since both our experiences happen in the evening/night ( mine all did and for what I've read yours did too) it might be as simple as just being tired. the human mind is known for it's sometimes bizarre behaviour when sleep deprived.

My episodes happened both nighttime and daytime. Some occurred when i was awaking from sleep, and others happened while i was just relaxing in my bedroom, but not asleep, my eyes were already open. So i guess mine were mixed. Yes we are bizarre indeed :lol:

You are correct. Like the late Dr. Sagan said, Billions! and Billions!

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07 Mar 2013, 7:38 pm

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I don't recall any experiences with ultra-sharp hearing as a child. I did (and still do) sometimes hear a tone in my ears like the tone they play in hearing tests or a TV test pattern. It's not tinnitus, because I have that too. It comes on suddenly and lasts for about a minute, then fades out.

I tend to have the opposite thing with spatial relations--like the Hitchcockian thing where the hallway gets longer and longer the harder you try to reach the end. Sometimes I feel like the ground is bouncing up and down under me, especially if I've been rushing around a lot.

Besides that tone it feels like the ear closes, right? It is harmless, - the Tuba Eustachii reacting to something. I´ve had it since childhood, and asked a doctor, since I was terrified by the thought of going deaf.

About spatial relations. Often, as a child i experienced the same, - the hallway shifting in size. Me shifting in size, the black and white tiles coming against me og shrinking. Sitting in a chair, I sometimes felt like being in a very fast carousel squeezing me up against the backside. I have always wondered about that.
Are sensory "things" of that kind connected to aspergers/autism?

By the way, - I too have "halucinated" big, shadowy spiders, - but I soon calmed myself. We don´t have spiders like that in Denmark

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08 Mar 2013, 4:41 pm

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izzeme wrote:

i have experienced this once, but visually rather then audio.
i woke up late at night and for some reason stood up and walked to the centre of my room. there i kneeled on the floor and looked at the seam beween two pieces of my carpet; it was magnivied extremely, it was as wide as a step on a stair, and the length was to such an extreme i saw it warp and curl almost into a circle around me, up over my head and back the other side.
i never really think about this, but it was very strange indeed. i also still do not know why i got out of bed, i dont remember anything else being magnified, just the seam...

izzeme, thank you for your reply. I read your experience that you described closely, it sounds almost exactly like me. My visual magnification aspect was when i took a step, as i moved forward, that feeling of forward movement of my body was magnified. I know i only took one step, but my sensation was that i was already on the other side of the room, and i could see the wardrobe closet on the other side of the room up close in front of my face, like i was standing right in front of it, but i had only just taken one step. I intellectually knew i had taken just one step, which was not enough to reach the other side of the room. I know the wardrobe was far from me. But I could already see it up close. My sensation and perception was that i was already there, on the other side of the room staring close up to the wardrobe closet. A one centimeter step, felt like movement of ten meters instantly to the other side. Like being in the two different positions of the room instantaneously. Like a "warp speed" or something. Its hard to put in words..
That's creepy. I have that same problem. For me it's so bad, I usually walk near walls so I don't fall over or become disoriented.

Its like looking through a telescope, but inside your room. The telescope is meant to see far away things like stars and planets, but when you use it inside a room, the thing that is only 5 meters away, seems like its right in front of your face.

Your sensation of the sudden movement of things, the seam in the carpet suddenly being around you, as if your eyes were already down into the seam, and suddenness of it, sounds eerily similar. The level of extreme intensity seems similar as well.

How old were you when it happened? And did you grow out of it?

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13 Mar 2013, 9:04 am

I found this video on youtube about a brain surgeon who had a stroke. She described her experience, and I am still digesting it, but I find it very interesting. The halves of the brain behave in ways that are described different experiences I have had, so I thought someone else might be interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU

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13 Mar 2013, 6:30 pm

kinda.

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13 Mar 2013, 9:02 pm

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Very interesting. I noticed that her final interpretation resembled an emotional/ecstatic expression, similar to or even identical to a so called "Religious experience". I believe this is, in a nutshell, the historico-foundational process of formation of many religions in the world. First, in the distant past, some enlightened individuals have genuine ecstatic experiences, when their RIght Brain is accessed.. But inevitably, the Left Brain is responsible for explaining this to others, so then establishes the roots of tangible Religious Institutions, which Socialize and Regulate the interpretations of the original Right Brain experience..

Crudely expressed, everyone's Left Brains collectively crashes and derails the Right Brain's infinite paradise party :roll:

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