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briankelley
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25 Mar 2013, 8:21 pm

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This post brings up some important issues: many people on the spectrum have learning disabilities (especially those with PDD-NOS)

Even Aspies who are amazing in some academic areas, struggle with other simple things. My aspie son is brilliant in some areas but has trouble in others. My other son with PDD-NOS has a hard time with speech (he is 7) and basic skills (tying shoes, etc.), but we work very hard, and we have him reading almost to grade level, swimming, biking, etc.


I'm both PDD-NOS and Autism Spectrum. So I'm guessing the way you're describing your two sons separately, they are separate and I just happen to have both. I grew out of a lot my PDD-NOS problems; mainly my motor dysfunction problems. Although I'm still incapable of playing basketball for instance.

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brian: everyone has aptitudes and abilities, you only need to find them. None of us need to be exceptional--we only need to be happy. Once you stop trying to live up to other people's expectations, and learn to live up to your own expectations, life becomes a lot easier.


The joy of turning 50 is that I'm able to blow stuff off a lot more liberally now. I just say to myself "I'm too old to fuss with that nonsense any longer". Time to just be me and enjoy life. I think at this point I'm more interested in getting a better grasp of it all so maybe I can help young people with these kinds of disabilities, if only just on WP and the like.



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25 Mar 2013, 9:33 pm

Me too.

There appears to be correlates with LD/Autism in the literature.

Example:
http://aut.sagepub.com/content/8/2/125.short



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25 Mar 2013, 9:49 pm

[quote="GiantHockeyFan"]My Girlfriend has recent been diagnosed with a learning disability and while I was told "no" I am still convinced she has classic Autism. What I find amazing is [u]NOBODY[/u] caught on until I took action and insisted she needed an assessment because it was obvious something was wrong. She's got average IQ but gets Ds and Fs in all her classes. I'm still learning about her disability but yes, I can see why she would feel like an outcast among outcasts.[/quote]


Women with LD are less likely to be diagnosed, much like women with Asperger’s. Having one or both and not being diagnosed "may" be common with women and girls as an experience. :evil:



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25 Mar 2013, 10:42 pm

I was a mixed bag. I got all A's in english, geography, and art, but failed basic math about 5 times before I just begged them to let me pass anyway. So many wasted summers in school... chemistry was another train wreck but the class wasn't mandatory so I swapped it out for civics because beginner civics class is just an excuse to take a nap. I mostly truly hate how specialize I am because I'm amazingly good at all the skills that are artistic and don't make you money in the real world. like... writing a wicked poem or painting an abstract version of someone's dog just doesn't pay the bills. Hell I can't even multiply beyond sets of 3 without using a calculator. High school was so full of crap about the definition of "life skills". If I ever hear a counselor tell a kid "you can achieve you dreams and be anything you want!" I'm probably just going to deck him in the face.



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27 Mar 2013, 10:25 pm

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GiantHockeyFan wrote:
Is it possible she has a Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder? people with average IQ & even above average IQ who have a Fetal Alcohol Disorder can have many problems learning, processing speed, socializing, memory etc at the same time as being intelligent it can look very much like Autism depending on which way you look at it.

I won't say no but it's highly unlikely. Every time I meet her parents they have a drink in their hand but I don't think they are heavy drinkers anymore than most people around here.


Hmm, "highly unlikely"? I don't know how you came to that conclusion after what you just pointed out - they have a drink in their hand every time you meet - to me that would be a possible, "don't think they are heavy drinkers ANYMORE" makes that a good chance imo that her mum may have drank alcohol during pregnancy & more than just a little - I mean she can't even deal with your company without consuming alcohol sounds quite dependent on it to me. Even just consuming one alcoholic drink can be enough in pregnancy to cause damage to a developing fetus/brain, that's all it takes. Obviously the more someone drinks the worse & even just one binge on alcohol can cause an awful lot of damage to a developing baby & future adult.



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28 Mar 2013, 10:58 am

delic wrote:
Hmm, "highly unlikely"? I don't know how you came to that conclusion after what you just pointed out - they have a drink in their hand every time you meet - to me that would be a possible, "don't think they are heavy drinkers ANYMORE" makes that a good chance imo that her mum may have drank alcohol during pregnancy & more than just a little - I mean she can't even deal with your company without consuming alcohol sounds quite dependent on it to me. Even just consuming one alcoholic drink can be enough in pregnancy to cause damage to a developing fetus/brain, that's all it takes. Obviously the more someone drinks the worse & even just one binge on alcohol can cause an awful lot of damage to a developing baby & future adult.

You are right in that I will never know but my point was that I know people who are MUCH heavier drinkers and never had any "disabled" children and I don't meet her parents very often: usually on weekend evenings when I drive her home. I do see how her issues run in the family though.



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24 Apr 2013, 12:45 pm

GiantHockeyFan wrote:
delic wrote:
I know people who are MUCH heavier drinkers and never had any "disabled" children and I don't meet her parents very often: usually on weekend evenings when I drive her home. I do see how her issues run in the family though.


This is often cited as evidence to back up the claim that a small amount is harmless, but it is believed that people have different "tolerances" to alcohol in utero. What one baby can endure and be fine might cause another baby to have permanent and invisible damage.

Alcohol basically prevents cells from adhering to one another, this can happen anywhere in the body, but is most pronounced in the brain and face. There is a threshold above which this happens, this may be 10 drinks for one person and a half a drink for another. If there is any possibility of alcohol having been consumed during pregnancy, than there is possibility of FASD. It might be helpful to explore it. Best of luck to both of you.