Should we concentrate ourselves in particular locations?

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Should we concentrate ourselves in particular locations?
Yes. 22%  22%  [ 8 ]
Yes, let's start picking some metros and cities. 31%  31%  [ 11 ]
No. 19%  19%  [ 7 ]
No, bad idea. 28%  28%  [ 10 ]
Total votes : 36

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26 Mar 2013, 5:27 pm

Rent trend data in Vancouver, British Columbia
Vancouver Average Rent
As of February, 2013, average apartment rent within 10 miles of Vancouver, BC is $1554.
One bedroom apartments in Vancouver rent for $1195 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $1733.

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Rent trend data in Seattle, Washington
Seattle Average Rent
As of February, 2013, average apartment rent within 10 miles of Seattle, WA is $1517.
One bedroom apartments in Seattle rent for $1303 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $1763.

Rent trend data in Spokane, Washington
Spokane Average Rent
As of February, 2013, average apartment rent within 10 miles of Spokane, WA is $765.
One bedroom apartments in Spokane rent for $592 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $707.

Rent trend data in San Francisco, California
San Francisco Average Ren
As of February, 2013, average apartment rent within 10 miles of San Francisco, CA is $2106.
One bedroom apartments in San Francisco rent for $1845 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $2364.



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26 Mar 2013, 5:35 pm

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During World War II, the Nazis thought it was a good idea to keep different kinds of people in their "own spaces." The Jews had their own sections as well as the Polish. These were known as ghettoes. The separation didn't work and, in some cases, uprisings occurred. When people are roped off, so to speak, they're more easily controlled and vilified. When the gays built their own communities (Castro, Stonewall) they became easy targets of oppression and they, too, had uprisings. In theory, it sounds like Xanadu, but in reality it doesn't work out as planned.

When I saw the title to this thread, I had this impression as well.. I think the heart of the problem with any social categories is they are not actually real in the absolute sense, but many people believe them to be real, and thus act out that "fake reality", in real ways ranging from mild discrimination, to major killings.. Race, sexuality, gender, etc.. Easy to talk about; hard problems to "solve", if ever..


Would you consider this strategy a valid approach to a broader solution? That is, pick some win-able battles toward winning the war.


If the strategy is to foster group solidarity through which mutual support may be enacted, aka "hang with friends", then thats great. :wink:

Although I am wondering about the use of military terminology, such as "Battle" and "Win the War" ??



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26 Mar 2013, 5:41 pm

MannyBoo wrote:
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During World War II, the Nazis thought it was a good idea to keep different kinds of people in their "own spaces." The Jews had their own sections as well as the Polish. These were known as ghettoes. The separation didn't work and, in some cases, uprisings occurred. When people are roped off, so to speak, they're more easily controlled and vilified. When the gays built their own communities (Castro, Stonewall) they became easy targets of oppression and they, too, had uprisings. In theory, it sounds like Xanadu, but in reality it doesn't work out as planned.

When I saw the title to this thread, I had this impression as well.. I think the heart of the problem with any social categories is they are not actually real in the absolute sense, but many people believe them to be real, and thus act out that "fake reality", in real ways ranging from mild discrimination, to major killings.. Race, sexuality, gender, etc.. Easy to talk about; hard problems to "solve", if ever..


Would you consider this strategy a valid approach to a broader solution? That is, pick some win-able battles toward winning the war.


If the strategy is to foster group solidarity through which mutual support may be enacted, aka "hang with friends", then thats great. :wink:

Although I am wondering about the use of military terminology, such as "Battle" and "Win the War" ??


The military terminology is just a metaphor. My real meaning it that we are best to change the world my making strides in a few exemplary places, rather than trying to evenly change everywhere at once. As a minorities go, we are spread thin.



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26 Mar 2013, 6:28 pm

Berkeley, CA. Awesome place.


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26 Mar 2013, 6:42 pm

redrobin62 wrote:
Rent trend data in Vancouver, British Columbia
Vancouver Average Rent
As of February, 2013, average apartment rent within 10 miles of Vancouver, BC is $1554.
One bedroom apartments in Vancouver rent for $1195 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $1733.

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My brother pays $1350/mo for a one bedroom in the Kitsilano area of Vancouver. Out here in the suburbs, my sister pays $750 for a two bedroom suite in the basement of a newer house. My cousin & her roommate pay $1050 for a two bedroom condo in a few year old building. One bedroom basement suites can be had for under $500/mo in some areas of the 'burbs, not including laundry or utilities. It's still entirely possible to rent & live in the Metro Vancouver area w/o paying the exorbitant rents of the city, especially if you live in a part of the suburbs that has relatively convenient public transit access and can easily get to a train station to head into town for work or play. Transit sucks where I live, so most nights after work at night I have a 4km walk home from the closest bus stop. Many parts of the suburbs are very car-centric. It'll be a heck of a lot more convenient to live here once I have wheels again. But anyways, just because the average rent IN the city is quite expensive doesn't mean there aren't lower priced options available. I just googled it, I'm 41km from downtown Vancouver (I used a stadium as a landmark) so approx 25 miles away. Rents right here in this neighbourhood are likely around $600 or so for a one bedroom & $800-900 or so for a two bedroom suite in a detached house. Townhomes would rent for quite a bit more, and there aren't any condos/apartments in this immediate area. Whether here or closer to Vancouver, there are plenty of places to be had for under $1000/mo, and it's quite doable for most if they have a roommate or second income paying the bills.


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26 Mar 2013, 7:21 pm

The problem with Silicon Valley and Seattle is that they are in the USA. Its damn hard for non-US aspies to get a Visa.

What we should do is buy an island somewhere and start over with a new country. Anyone with an official DX gets citizenship.


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26 Mar 2013, 7:31 pm

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The problem with Silicon Valley and Seattle is that they are in the USA. Its damn hard for non-US aspies to get a Visa.

What we should do is buy an island somewhere and start over with a new country. Anyone with an official DX gets citizenship.


I don't know what islands are for sale. However, the are a lot of uninhabited or lightly inhabited islands in the area of Australia and New Zealand, including the island refered to in the movie "Mutiny on the Bounty" where the mutineers landed.

Any candidate cities in your part of the planet?



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26 Mar 2013, 8:00 pm

Seattle, hmm. What is Seattle like? I know there are a list of resources, but what is Seattle like? Is it especially good for Aspie adults and not just Aspie children? Especially good overall? The only thing I really know about Seattle is that Frasier TV show was set there. And that Kelsey Grammer (the guy who played Frasier) rode the Seattle monorail on one episode the TV show.



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26 Mar 2013, 8:12 pm

What a great idea! If enough inhabitants have similar needs they are more likely to be met. That's how we ended up with a world that's already shaped after NT-needs after all, majority rule.



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26 Mar 2013, 8:30 pm

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What a great idea! If enough inhabitants have similar needs they are more likely to be met. That's how we ended up with a world that's already shaped after NT-needs after all, majority rule.


Exactly! If you gather enough members of a global minority, you end up with a local minority. And, I believe it can be done in a way that is beneficial to all, including NTs.



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26 Mar 2013, 8:31 pm

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Seattle, hmm. What is Seattle like? I know there are a list of resources, but what is Seattle like? Is it especially good for Aspie adults and not just Aspie children? Especially good overall? The only thing I really know about Seattle is that Frasier TV show was set there. And that Kelsey Grammer (the guy who played Frasier) rode the Seattle monorail on one episode the TV show.


Seattle could be the initial "launch city."



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26 Mar 2013, 9:02 pm

ShelbyGt500 wrote:
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What a great idea! If enough inhabitants have similar needs they are more likely to be met. That's how we ended up with a world that's already shaped after NT-needs after all, majority rule.


Exactly! If you gather enough members of a global minority, you end up with a local minority. And, I believe it can be done in a way that is beneficial to all, including NTs.


Yes a more inclusive world, on all levels, benefits all. Though the ruling class - so to speak - have to make some room which might initially feel unbeneficial for them, it's like that when any minority gain rights.
That might be an unforseen problem though, as we don't have a big movement yet that would be able to push back if NTs would become illogical about the whole thing. Sorry to bring it up...



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26 Mar 2013, 9:07 pm

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These places already exist, IMO.

As has been discussed in other threads, tech centres like Silicon Valley have attracted a lot of people like us. I think Seattle would be quite similar


Yipee! I'm moving to Seattle in a couple of months :D



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26 Mar 2013, 9:07 pm

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In the western United States, I would start that list with the Seattle, Oregon and Phoenix, Arizona metro areas.

not all of us are financially successful sufficient to be able to live in high-cost cities such as seattle. phoenix is too morally atavistic/hot for a lot of us. most of oregon is too much like eastern washington for comfort.



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26 Mar 2013, 9:10 pm

redrobin62 wrote:
Rent trend data in Vancouver, British Columbia
Vancouver Average Rent
As of February, 2013, average apartment rent within 10 miles of Vancouver, BC is $1554.
One bedroom apartments in Vancouver rent for $1195 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $1733.

Rental Link Vancouver BC

Rent trend data in Seattle, Washington
Seattle Average Rent
As of February, 2013, average apartment rent within 10 miles of Seattle, WA is $1517.
One bedroom apartments in Seattle rent for $1303 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $1763.

Rent trend data in Spokane, Washington
Spokane Average Rent
As of February, 2013, average apartment rent within 10 miles of Spokane, WA is $765.
One bedroom apartments in Spokane rent for $592 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $707.

Rent trend data in San Francisco, California
San Francisco Average Ren
As of February, 2013, average apartment rent within 10 miles of San Francisco, CA is $2106.
One bedroom apartments in San Francisco rent for $1845 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $2364.

if i could afford any of those astronomical rents, my aspieness must not be an issue at all. but it is and i simply can't afford such, now or ever. so greater hooterville is where i must stay.



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26 Mar 2013, 9:26 pm

auntblabby wrote:
redrobin62 wrote:
Rent trend data in Vancouver, British Columbia
Vancouver Average Rent
As of February, 2013, average apartment rent within 10 miles of Vancouver, BC is $1554.
One bedroom apartments in Vancouver rent for $1195 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $1733.

Rental Link Vancouver BC

Rent trend data in Seattle, Washington
Seattle Average Rent
As of February, 2013, average apartment rent within 10 miles of Seattle, WA is $1517.
One bedroom apartments in Seattle rent for $1303 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $1763.

Rent trend data in Spokane, Washington
Spokane Average Rent
As of February, 2013, average apartment rent within 10 miles of Spokane, WA is $765.
One bedroom apartments in Spokane rent for $592 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $707.

Rent trend data in San Francisco, California
San Francisco Average Ren
As of February, 2013, average apartment rent within 10 miles of San Francisco, CA is $2106.
One bedroom apartments in San Francisco rent for $1845 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $2364.

if i could afford any of those astronomical rents, my aspieness must not be an issue at all. but it is and i simply can't afford such, now or ever. so greater hooterville is where i must stay.


Greater Hooterville? If you mean the same Hooterville as the one described in Wikipedia, I'm 30 miles away from there.