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What would disappoint you the most?
Poll ended at 23 Jul 2013, 7:47 pm
In 2013, that we don't have an Aspie community 59%  59%  [ 24 ]
There's no Aspie Restaurant 15%  15%  [ 6 ]
No local Aspie festivals 17%  17%  [ 7 ]
Can't order Aspie Ice Cream 10%  10%  [ 4 ]
Total votes : 41

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24 Apr 2013, 10:35 am

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4. While it's a minor issue, even if I have to accept that there is not the push for the above projects, I would like to be able to order a case of Stim Soda, a box of (frozen) Tesla Fries, or a gallon of Meltdown ice cream. Something tangible that I, as an Aspie, can order, to remind myself that I'm not the only one out there.


The other things require the cooperation of other people (which I know from the other threads you have been trying to get). But food doesn't require anybody else. I have no idea what would differentiate Stim soda, Tesla fries or Meltdown ice cream from other soda, fries and icecream. If the difference is that they are made by an Aspie, you can accomplish that by making them yourself. If there is some unique difference in flavor, nobody but you knows what that difference is so again the solution is to make them yourself.

There are online recipes for soda, icecream and fries. There are also home appliances specific to all the above.

If you wait around for somebody else to do it you could wait your whole life.



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24 Apr 2013, 10:52 am

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6 years to 1000 posts, that means that Agent P actually has a life! I have no idea how some people here have between 30,000-100,000 posts.


Perhaps because they have Asperger's Syndrome, no friends and the internet is their main connection with the outside world?

Who knew that the average person with Asperger's Syndrome (a social disabuility) was expected to have loads of friends and a busy social life

which they pay for with the money they earn from their amazing job, where they encounter no discrimination whatsoever, thus enabling them to hold onto that job forever

It's amazing what you learn on these forums..



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24 Apr 2013, 11:45 am

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6 years to 1000 posts, that means that Agent P actually has a life! I have no idea how some people here have between 30,000-100,000 posts.


Perhaps because they have Asperger's Syndrome, no friends and the internet is their main connection with the outside world?

Who knew that the average person with Asperger's Syndrome (a social disabuility) was expected to have loads of friends and a busy social life

which they pay for with the money they earn from their amazing job, where they encounter no discrimination whatsoever, thus enabling them to hold onto that job forever

It's amazing what you learn on these forums..


I agree everything you say(I see your sarcasm) and infact you discribe me in your post very well, I have little money, few friends I see or hear from seldom, part time job etc. I spend more time on here then I think I should as I have a little too much down time, as I have 500 posts in 4 months. My point was sort of in responce to Zodai's that some people post on here so often they must not do anything else in a waking part of a day, no SI indulgeing, eating etc. Maybe I just don't understand those peoples days and typing speed as mines really slow, I also don't use a mobile phone so i'm fixed to a home type computer.

Sorry for being a little too blunt and it was ment as a little humor. I should know better by now that I am naturally bad at humor, or at least at trying to be funny.



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24 Apr 2013, 12:48 pm

Janissy wrote:
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4. While it's a minor issue, even if I have to accept that there is not the push for the above projects, I would like to be able to order a case of Stim Soda, a box of (frozen) Tesla Fries, or a gallon of Meltdown ice cream. Something tangible that I, as an Aspie, can order, to remind myself that I'm not the only one out there.


The other things require the cooperation of other people (which I know from the other threads you have been trying to get). But food doesn't require anybody else. I have no idea what would differentiate Stim soda, Tesla fries or Meltdown ice cream from other soda, fries and icecream. If the difference is that they are made by an Aspie, you can accomplish that by making them yourself. If there is some unique difference in flavor, nobody but you knows what that difference is so again the solution is to make them yourself.

There are online recipes for soda, icecream and fries. There are also home appliances specific to all the above.

If you wait around for somebody else to do it you could wait your whole life.


Let's put it this way, me and food preperation arn't BFF's. I recall reading the posts of people who had special interests in food prepartion, I was quite impressed.

As to the jokes on how long it took to get a custom rank (1,000 posts), who exactly is it that says Aspies don't understand humor?

What I think this thread is showing, along with another one up on this sub-forum at the moment, is that there is interest in the things I mentioned in my OP and in the poll. I realize that others may not have put the same amount of interest into the ideas. I realize that they look complicated and, if we can be honest, a little scary.

I think many, not all, but many, of us would find social interaction much less difficult if we dealing with others who have simular processing and communication styles. I think much of the social anxiety that we see here on this board flows from that processing and communication difference.


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24 Apr 2013, 12:53 pm

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6 years to 1000 posts, that means that Agent P actually has a life! I have no idea how some people here have between 30,000-100,000 posts.


Perhaps because they have Asperger's Syndrome, no friends and the internet is their main connection with the outside world?

Who knew that the average person with Asperger's Syndrome (a social disabuility) was expected to have loads of friends and a busy social life

which they pay for with the money they earn from their amazing job, where they encounter no discrimination whatsoever, thus enabling them to hold onto that job forever

It's amazing what you learn on these forums..


I agree everything you say(I see your sarcasm) and infact you discribe me in your post very well, I have little money, few friends I see or hear from seldom, part time job etc. I spend more time on here then I think I should as I have a little too much down time, as I have 500 posts in 4 months. My point was sort of in responce to Zodai's that some people post on here so often they must not do anything else in a waking part of a day, no SI indulgeing, eating etc. Maybe I just don't understand those peoples days and typing speed as mines really slow, I also don't use a mobile phone so i'm fixed to a home type computer.

Sorry for being a little too blunt and it was ment as a little humor. I should know better by now that I am naturally bad at humor, or at least at trying to be funny.


It's ok, I suppose it's because I spend a lot of time online myself and I'm quite happy with it as an alternative to mixing with
people, which I find stressful in the extreme and rarely very rewarding



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24 Apr 2013, 1:06 pm

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I think many, not all, but many, of us would find social interaction much less difficult if we dealing with others who have simular processing and communication styles. I think much of the social anxiety that we see here on this board flows from that processing and communication difference.
YES!! ! This is probably the answer to why I am doing so well compared to some others I know, who have similar ASD characteristics to mine or even have them more pronounced, in some cases. I've been kind of fixated lately on reasons why I'm functioning so well, to the extent where some people seem to deny my diagnosis because I can do so many things their son/daughter can't. I think it comes down to many variables, including the fact that I have no serious comorbids (I suspect GAD but nothing else). I guess I'm rare in that most people I know have something else along with AS and also don't accept their diagnosis to the extent that I've learned to accept it and not be ashamed of any part of it. I think that's really the key and I'm amazed at how much I've changed over the last 3-4 years, as well, as a result of increased self-confidence and self-acceptance.

I really like the idea of Aspie communities and would definitely participate in one as much as I can. I would imagine an Aspie restaurant being something that serves foods and drinks that are a) natural, to accommodate for sensitivities, 2) very spicy or very bland (both choices available) and 3) yes, a huge gluten-free menu. I think all of the nutrition facts should be available freely without having to ask (I'm always scared to do so because I am scared of negative reactions). I count my calories and there probably are other Aspies out there that do. Also, the background music should be very quiet and mute-able on request. The staff should be very flexible and accommodating and the spaces would be blocked out as much as possible to prevent people from being distracted by movement. The presence of at least some individual rooms is also a must.

I'm thinking of maybe an Aspie apartment complex where everyone could live. Not a college, because not everyone with ASD can go to college. Personally, I would enjoy it if Auties could co-habit with Aspies, as well (I don't know how blanket of a term Aspie is, for you). Whenever I am able to, I enjoy spending time with non-verbal autistics just as much.


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24 Apr 2013, 1:11 pm

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Also, the background music should be very quiet and mute-able on request.


And instrumental only :D



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Also, the background music should be very quiet and mute-able on request.

And instrumental only :D
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24 Apr 2013, 5:32 pm

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6 years to 1000 posts, that means that Agent P actually has a life! I have no idea how some people here have between 30,000-100,000 posts.


Perhaps because they have Asperger's Syndrome, no friends and the internet is their main connection with the outside world?

Who knew that the average person with Asperger's Syndrome (a social disabuility) was expected to have loads of friends and a busy social life

which they pay for with the money they earn from their amazing job, where they encounter no discrimination whatsoever, thus enabling them to hold onto that job forever

It's amazing what you learn on these forums..


I agree everything you say(I see your sarcasm) and infact you discribe me in your post very well, I have little money, few friends I see or hear from seldom, part time job etc. I spend more time on here then I think I should as I have a little too much down time, as I have 500 posts in 4 months. My point was sort of in responce to Zodai's that some people post on here so often they must not do anything else in a waking part of a day, no SI indulgeing, eating etc. Maybe I just don't understand those peoples days and typing speed as mines really slow, I also don't use a mobile phone so i'm fixed to a home type computer.

Sorry for being a little too blunt and it was ment as a little humor. I should know better by now that I am naturally bad at humor, or at least at trying to be funny.


It's ok, I suppose it's because I spend a lot of time online myself and I'm quite happy with it as an alternative to mixing with
people, which I find stressful in the extreme and rarely very rewarding


Thats why I am here also aswell as to augment my lacking real life interactions and learn about myself and find support so I can be in better in offline life. We also both have between 4-5 posts a day and thats too much, about 1.5-2 hours a day maybe since i'm very slow with words. I just worry for those who appear to solely live on WP since this site could go down at anytime, then what happens? You and I would move on to somewhere else, maybe give real life another shot however I get the feeling a few here could not just do that and thats when I think its an issue, thats a large part of the point I was trying to make. If only we all could live together or see eachother more often like Agent Palpatine has been advocating, it sure would beat talking on a chat site.
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As for a resturant I would go with a chip wagon, why?
-Cheap to run=Affordable food since most of us appear to be either low/fixed income.
-Short and simple menu-helps with makeing choices if they are not too meny.
-Basic normal type food- Hamburger/hotdogs/french fries etc., without added flavours/textures/ingredents, basic tastes only, good becouse of sensory issues meny of us have.
-No fancy dining room=forgetting social skills is OK outside and when dining in your car, also you can move around more to make your self feel more comferable.
-Getting to apply all your own toppings, aspies can be pickey about this so I like the do it yourself method, all the ketchup I want I can have.

I love chip wagons!



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24 Apr 2013, 5:41 pm

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6 years to 1000 posts, that means that Agent P actually has a life! I have no idea how some people here have between 30,000-100,000 posts.


Perhaps because they have Asperger's Syndrome, no friends and the internet is their main connection with the outside world?

Who knew that the average person with Asperger's Syndrome (a social disabuility) was expected to have loads of friends and a busy social life

which they pay for with the money they earn from their amazing job, where they encounter no discrimination whatsoever, thus enabling them to hold onto that job forever

It's amazing what you learn on these forums..


I agree everything you say(I see your sarcasm) and infact you discribe me in your post very well, I have little money, few friends I see or hear from seldom, part time job etc. I spend more time on here then I think I should as I have a little too much down time, as I have 500 posts in 4 months. My point was sort of in responce to Zodai's that some people post on here so often they must not do anything else in a waking part of a day, no SI indulgeing, eating etc. Maybe I just don't understand those peoples days and typing speed as mines really slow, I also don't use a mobile phone so i'm fixed to a home type computer.

Sorry for being a little too blunt and it was ment as a little humor. I should know better by now that I am naturally bad at humor, or at least at trying to be funny.


It's ok, I suppose it's because I spend a lot of time online myself and I'm quite happy with it as an alternative to mixing with
people, which I find stressful in the extreme and rarely very rewarding


Thats why I am here also aswell as to augment my lacking real life interactions and learn about myself and find support so I can be in better in offline life. We also both have between 4-5 posts a day and thats too much, about 1.5-2 hours a day maybe since i'm very slow with words. I just worry for those who appear to solely live on WP since this site could go down at anytime, then what happens? You and I would move on to somewhere else, maybe give real life another shot however I get the feeling a few here could not just do that and thats when I think its an issue, thats a large part of the point I was trying to make. If only we all could live together or see eachother more often like Agent Palpatine has been advocating, it sure would beat talking on a chat site.
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As for a resturant I would go with a chip wagon, why?
-Cheap to run=Affordable food since most of us appear to be either low/fixed income.
-Short and simple menu-helps with makeing choices if they are not too meny.
-Basic normal type food- Hamburger/hotdogs/french fries etc., without added flavours/textures/ingredents, basic tastes only, good becouse of sensory issues meny of us have.
-No fancy dining room=forgetting social skills is OK outside and when dining in your car, also you can move around more to make your self feel more comferable.
-Getting to apply all your own toppings, aspies can be pickey about this so I like the do it yourself method, all the ketchup I want I can have.

I love chip wagons!


If WP wasn't available I would be forced to do all the stuff I'm avoiding doing by being on WP lol, so it would be a good thing probably!

I just prefer this method of interaction with others as it's far less stressful and I don't have to battle to get my voice heard. Most real life conversations never cover topics I'm interested in.

I've met other people with Aspergers and set up and ran a support group for people with ASDs and I didn't find it very satisfying at all as the people just weren't on my wavelength. You get more intelligent content in online conversations and can walk away the moment it gets annoying or boring without upsetting anyone! How can it not be better?? lol



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24 Apr 2013, 6:45 pm

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I voted for the Aspie Restaurant because it would provide jobs to individuals having ASD.

An all-out ASD offline community / neighborhood / municipality would be daring, but I worry about the conflicts in the leadership structure. We know how NTs "hash it out" over organizational leadership, but when everyone involved is an AS person...


The last point has been debated for some time, and is probably the second most used discussion point against an Aspie community. The quick answer is that there is only one way to know for sure. That said, history is full of organizations of people that did'nt always agree with each other, and those organizations still florished.


I'm guessing the first thing on which our AS community would need to agree is the method of making decisions. Do we democratically decide "best practices" and "absolute rules" by majority / super-majority? Do we hold a lottery via random number generator to select our dictator for the next one, five, N years? So many fun questions...


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I think many, not all, but many, of us would find social interaction much less difficult if we dealing with others who have simular processing and communication styles. I think much of the social anxiety that we see here on this board flows from that processing and communication difference.


I really like the idea of Aspie communities and would definitely participate in one as much as I can. I would imagine an Aspie restaurant being something that serves foods and drinks that are a) natural, to accommodate for sensitivities, 2) very spicy or very bland (both choices available) and 3) yes, a huge gluten-free menu. I think all of the nutrition facts should be available freely without having to ask (I'm always scared to do so because I am scared of negative reactions). I count my calories and there probably are other Aspies out there that do. Also, the background music should be very quiet and mute-able on request. The staff should be very flexible and accommodating and the spaces would be blocked out as much as possible to prevent people from being distracted by movement. The presence of at least some individual rooms is also a must.


I'm glad we agree on the value of offline aspie interaction. It's unfortunate that there are the cultural and logistical barriers that block so many WPers and other Aspies from participation in offline groups, and just as unfortunate is the society anxiety barriers out there from years or even decades of social exclusion.

I'm looking forward to Autreat this year, even if constraints limit my visit to only a day or two.

The Aspie resturant is such a fun topic that I think it will get a thread of it's own, don't worrry. My own interests are running closer to the Aspie residence, but that probably will only get going with co-located Aspie businesses, which is another thread or five in and of themselves.

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As for a resturant I would go with a chip wagon, why?
-Cheap to run=Affordable food since most of us appear to be either low/fixed income.
-Short and simple menu-helps with makeing choices if they are not too meny.
-Basic normal type food- Hamburger/hotdogs/french fries etc., without added flavours/textures/ingredents, basic tastes only, good becouse of sensory issues meny of us have.
-No fancy dining room=forgetting social skills is OK outside and when dining in your car, also you can move around more to make your self feel more comferable.
-Getting to apply all your own toppings, aspies can be pickey about this so I like the do it yourself method, all the ketchup I want I can have.

I love chip wagons!


Again, I plan to explore the Aspie Resturant in more detail in a later thread. I will note that while I like your idea in theory, in practice the food cart (to use US terms) would be competing for expensive licenses in urban areas, or would be blocked by regulations in smaller markets. Also, a large portion of the purpose of an Aspie Restruant would be to serve as outreach and cultural presence, which is harder to do with a mobile food cart.

There are interesting things that could be done on the summer "festival" circut, which I think should be explored in a later thead. That might be a prototype Aspie resturant right there.


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As for a resturant I would go with a chip wagon, why?
-Cheap to run=Affordable food since most of us appear to be either low/fixed income.
-Short and simple menu-helps with makeing choices if they are not too meny.
-Basic normal type food- Hamburger/hotdogs/french fries etc., without added flavours/textures/ingredents, basic tastes only, good becouse of sensory issues meny of us have.
-No fancy dining room=forgetting social skills is OK outside and when dining in your car, also you can move around more to make your self feel more comferable.
-Getting to apply all your own toppings, aspies can be pickey about this so I like the do it yourself method, all the ketchup I want I can have.

I love chip wagons!


Again, I plan to explore the Aspie Resturant in more detail in a later thread. I will note that while I like your idea in theory, in practice the food cart (to use US terms) would be competing for expensive licenses in urban areas, or would be blocked by regulations in smaller markets. Also, a large portion of the purpose of an Aspie Restruant would be to serve as outreach and cultural presence, which is harder to do with a mobile food cart.

There are interesting things that could be done on the summer "festival" circut, which I think should be explored in a later thead. That might be a prototype Aspie resturant right there.

I like what was said before, that it's a good ideal for a new business to have some outs. And then . . . a restaurant is just a notoriously difficult business to turn a profit on. With the goal of the owner working anything like a normal schedule, with is the decent way to treat him or her. In fact, it's a common story for the owner to be working a herculean schedule and the restaurant still goes out of business.

And I really think, it has more to do with traffic patterns and demographics than it has to do with quality of food.



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. . . We also both have between 4-5 posts a day and thats too much, about 1.5-2 hours a day maybe since i'm very slow with words. I just worry for those who appear to solely live on WP since this site could go down at anytime, then what happens? You and I would move on to somewhere else, maybe give real life another shot however I get the feeling a few here could not just do that and thats when I think its an issue, thats a large part of the point I was trying to make. If only we all could live together or see eachother more often like Agent Palpatine has been advocating, it sure would beat talking on a chat site. . .

I do about three posts a day, sometimes more. And I find myself thinking about WrongPlanet and looking forward to it.

If this site goes down, it would definitely be a blow, I'll tell you that. And I appreciate all the work Alex has done, as well as the moderators who have helped out. All the same, we are kind of putting our eggs in one basket. Ideally, I would like to have several websites just as good as WP. And since I think things are going pretty well for me, I might well go by the handle AardvarkGoodSwimmer on different sites. Other people might want a fresh start, and that's fine. Both ways are good.



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Well, it's my 1,000th post, Over the last six years and 999 posts

Congratulations, on your, achievement? But it you took 6 years for that?? :lol:

This, now, is my 1,000th post, and it took me less than a month to do it. 8)

I guess you are not as obsessively post-whorish as I can be. HEE HEE :P



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I think many, not all, but many, of us would find social interaction much less difficult if we dealing with others who have simular processing and communication styles. I think much of the social anxiety that we see here on this board flows from that processing and communication difference.
YES!! ! This is probably the answer to why I am doing so well compared to some others I know, who have similar ASD characteristics to mine or even have them more pronounced, in some cases. I've been kind of fixated lately on reasons why I'm functioning so well, to the extent where some people seem to deny my diagnosis because I can do so many things their son/daughter can't. I think it comes down to many variables, including the fact that I have no serious comorbids (I suspect GAD but nothing else). I guess I'm rare in that most people I know have something else along with AS and also don't accept their diagnosis to the extent that I've learned to accept it and not be ashamed of any part of it. I think that's really the key and I'm amazed at how much I've changed over the last 3-4 years, as well, as a result of increased self-confidence and self-acceptance.

I really like the idea of Aspie communities and would definitely participate in one as much as I can. I would imagine an Aspie restaurant being something that serves foods and drinks that are a) natural, to accommodate for sensitivities, 2) very spicy or very bland (both choices available) and 3) yes, a huge gluten-free menu. I think all of the nutrition facts should be available freely without having to ask (I'm always scared to do so because I am scared of negative reactions). I count my calories and there probably are other Aspies out there that do. Also, the background music should be very quiet and mute-able on request. The staff should be very flexible and accommodating and the spaces would be blocked out as much as possible to prevent people from being distracted by movement. The presence of at least some individual rooms is also a must.
Agreed.

I think if most aspies were given a chance for no fuss aspie to aspie socialization they'd never turn back.

Certain details, like menu options, accurate food prep times, cost, and other hard to predict variables would also be useful. Especially for those of us who find unpredictable variable emotionally taxing.

Again once you realize that by the process of elimination(only businesses that cater to the nt majority survive) you fast become aware of the different needs of NTs and aspies. For example restaurant music is used to create a stimulating environment, that creates excitement, interest, and spontaneity in what is basically just a standard room.
This of course works well if your trying to get a bunch of nts to eat fast and to spend beyond their means. However for many aspies this creates an environment that is stressful, intimidating, and just plain old confusing.