Asperger people are cats in a dog's world!

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It was all over a mistake the dog made. I had a baby sister and he thought he was looking out for her. He saw a woman outside my house with a pram the exact same one as we had . He didn't attack her he just growled at her because he thought she was taking my sister . He was a sheep dog and incredibly smart and protective , it
turned out too much so . It only lasted a couple of seconds no one got hurt. I was with him has he never left my side
I understand it in a way now. But I was only 8 at the time and he was all I had . He was my only friend . He used to be there at the school gates waiting for me when I left that horrid place ( he used to walk to school with me and then just sit and wait till I cam back out) I could never if I tried for the rest of my life find the words to describe how destroyed I was . Him waiting was what kept me going during the torture I received from the other kids and teachers .
Shortly after I had a major break and used a pair of scissors and cut a bullys jumper all the way up the front when he was wearing it , in class in front of the teach .He just would not stop kicking me in the leg under the table . It made perfect sense to me , I could not bring myself to hit anyone but had to do something.
They instantly expelled me so it turned out to be one of the best mistakes I have ever made

People seem to have more in common with dogs.

It just makes me think of ASD more as a difference rather than a disorder.

Saying it's a disorder is the same as saying a cat has a disorder because it is not a dog. A cat is just a cat, and a dog is just a dog. They are simply different animals. A cat is not a defective dog.

The main reason why Asperger Syndrome becomes a "disorder" is because most people are neurotypical, which makes communication so much harder. In general I have no problem communicating with other Asperger individuals. Imagine how difficult it would be for a neurotypical individual if they number of asperger people and neurotypical people were reversed. They had to adopt the aspergian communication style the same way we have to adopt the neurotypical communication style. In that case Neurotypicality would become a disorder. A dog in a cat's world, instead of a cat in a dog's world.

I hate how dogs slobber on and sniff at you. Gross. I hate how their owners seem to think there is something wrong with me just because I don't want to be sniffed at and slobbered on.
I don't hate dogs. I just don't want the sniffing and slobbering. When I go home, I wash it off and change clothes.

I do know a lot of NTs who own cats, but I have noticed that more extroverted and disorganised people tend to own dogs, mostly those little yappy dogs because they want a pet that's as noisy as them but don't want one too big. I say this because a lot of people who I know who are quite untidy people, absent-minded, have more selfish traits, and are extroverted, have a messy kind of house and one of those small yappy dogs. People who are quieter, more organised, have tidier homes, stick to routine and are have less selfish traits, tend to own cats or bigger dogs, but mostly cats.

I'm not generalising the whole population, I'm just describing my experience with my familiarity of different ''breeds'' of people. Lots of NTs do like cats, though.

Coincidentally or not, I have never managed to get along well with certain people who fervently love dogs. No matter what I say or do, they insist that my presence alone is enough to offend them.

Actually, they say that all dogs have ADHD.

If all cats have Asperger's and all dogs have ADHD, then what am I? A cat-dog?
I can't understand that.

I don't see myself as a "cat person" or "dog person".
I am a person. That's all.
I don't need labels.

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I have seen examples of this in my neighborhood. There is a family that lives up the street. They have an extremely messy front yard, with junk piled all over and lots of kids running around. And the final straw is two tiny, yappy dogs that will follow you all along their fence and yip yip yip when all you are doing is taking a walk. Then there is another family at the other end, who pick up other people's cast off stuff like rusting porch gliders and broken furniture and keep it in their front yard. They have a couple of tiny yappy dogs, too. So you may have a point!

Although I'm a dog man I'd take a good cat over one of those little yip-yap dogs.

With all due respect, I think you should re-think your entire line of thought here. Both in form and content -- to my mind, at any rate -- you begin your sermon(?) screed(?) with a "sweeping generalization" of the worst sort and then proceed only to dig yourself in deeper.

For instance, is it really necessary to engage in this ham-handed slamming of all of humanity into one of two categories? To say nothing of what -- again, to my mind -- strikes me as some rather bizarre stereotyping of not only dog and cat owners but of dogs and cats themselves? Or do you think you're really, in truth, being fair in your analysis?

Though, curiously it may be my place on the AS itself that leads me to respond as I have. I tend not to think in terms of dogs as a class or cats as a class, but only in terms of this dog, that cat and so on. I might like this cat, dislike that dog, or vice versa. Ditto dog and cat owners. What I'd be reluctant to do is to jump feet-first down this rabbit-hole (perhaps there's more than two classes here, come to think of it?) and start glibly assigning people to group X or Y without a LOT more than just a few bits of anecdotal evidence.

I have no problem with you asserting that you are somehow akin to a cat, don't get me wrong there. If such a thing floats your boat, go for it. But please leave me out of this schema of yours. It is not how I think, nor, I suppose, ultimately how I wish to think. Though I suppose presented with overwhelming evidence I'd be willing to re-think my present stance. But if it is out there somewhere I've yet to see it. I certainly have yet to see it in the course of this thread.

More on the topic:

Cats, Dogs, and Aspergers

Overall the analysis seems correct to me..

A little thinker


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It works as a cute metaphor. But if you take it seriously as a way to categorize you make absurd generalizations. I agree with WorldsEdge (post above). Trying to cram people- and for that matter dogs and cats- into these simplistic categories just does not work. It makes a cute metaphor and that metaphor made a cute book (All Cats Have Aspergers) but it just does not work for anything more serious than light comedic metaphor.

What it does for me is it "explains" the different attitudes towards pack mentality. Aspies just don't have a pack mentality the same way neurotypicals do. Obviously humans are neither dogs nor cats, you are definitely right about that - but I find it's easier to understand my own situation...like, "ah that's the reason for all the trouble, socially I think like a cat, not a dog as most other people do." We all know how different mentalities dogs and cats have.

It also explains my different view on love. Pack mentality has a big influence on NT-love. Since I don't have that pack mentality I perceive love differently. Many will go a lot further to feel like they belong to a group than I will - including putting up with peer pressure and perhaps patronization by the pack leader (i.e. some "alpha-male"). It's because it is a part of their natural survival strategie, but not a part of mine. I don't like the pack mentality, I want people to be equals, treating each other with respect.

I don't see any kind of analysis present in that link at all. Simply more crude stereotyping. Or should those of us on the AS now be locked up as a hazard to the wild bird population?

Yes, I'm being sarcastic...But I fail to see how an assertion like that is any less valid than anything else I've read vis a vis this ridiculous cat/dog dichotomy. In fact, the effect of domestic and feral cats on the wild bird population has actually been documented, unlike the other assertions sloshing around this thread. So perhaps we should be forced to stay indoors as a class?

I think the dichotomy works well

Do you have dogs or cats yourself?