Anomaly.

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Do you know what interferes with your learning or applying of skills?

Things seem overwhelming, confusing, and frustrating when I try to do these things. It's fine if I can find a way to do things and then do it that way again and again, but changing things around makes it much harder. I seem to have rather significant executive function impairments, which is probably relevant.

What do you do when the task becomes overwhelming, confusing, frustrating?

I usually end up doing something else. If possible, I get instructions on how to do the task so I can do it without trying to figure things out.

On some occasions I can slow down a bit and interpret what I need to do, but this is not a reliable course of action.

I want to clarify that I don't just try to do things and then give up right away. I can get stuck for hours or days trying to get a thing done. I am these days more forgiving of my difficulties and sometimes simply stop when it seems like the effort isn't worth the outcome (especially if I can't figure out how to get it done on my own).

It's extremely frustrating because these are things I should be able to do. I mean, basic things like being able to get laundry done even if variables are introduced (such as someone else's laundry in the dryer when I go to do mine) or having to use a different bathroom to take a bath or shower.

I lost a job once because I was verbally trained to close the store I worked at once, and then expected to remember it all the next night. I had forgotten it all and got fired after I called the manager to ask for assistance. If I had been given written instructions, this might have worked out better, but odds are I'd probably have run into some other issue, as happened in other jobs.

So is the problem thinking of what to do?

To some extent, yes. There's also "thinking of what to do first" and "Knowing what to do in one context, but not what to do in another context."

Edit to add: I think I may need to spend more time putting this into words. No one has asked me these precise questions before so I haven't tried very hard to do so before now. It kind of amazes me that this is the case because I have brought it up to doctors and therapists.

What if you have to solve a new kind of math problem that you have not solved before?

I don't know. I could do mental arithmetic fairly rapidly, but I ran into serious problems once I got to algebra. Geometry was easy, though.

Most of what you described is typical for Schizophrenia which you have. So you are not an anomaly.

All your posts have helped. I am not an anomaly.

I cannot post more now because I've got a migraine and looking at this screen hurts.

You ask really good questions--also this:


and two others on the same page....plus I love the brain rhyme at the end of your posts...have seen it many times and never fail to admire....

Anomaly is a wonderful word to name a thread, as we all are interested in that:-)

To SteelMaiden... hope your migraine goes away soon...-I have had plenty of those and will write about it sometime....

The important thing may be for each person to begin to understand himself....it is kind of like being a detective---observe the existing data as impartially as possible and also try to uncover new data---then eventually see some kind of connection that was previously missed...and from this angle gather more data...this can actually change a person's brain....

In any case, do not know about you, SteelMaiden, but many times people start a conversation on a certain subject, any subject, mainly to make a connection, and that is okay...so any subject can also technically represents something else, just as a number is a representation...

Thanks for the advice.

I think that NTs often start a conversation to fill in the gaps, to prevent the silence. I do not understand the purpose of this. I don't mind the silences, they give me time to think.

I isolate myself a lot. But this isolation gives me time to theorise. I come up with very interesting theories sometimes.

Yeah.

I'm glad she asked those questions. I'm still stuck on why no one else ever thought to ask me that. I know why I didn't think to explain it before - I often need explicit prompts.

Therapists were probably too busy asking you how you felt and to talk about your feelings, then reassuring you that you were A-OK, that they were A-OK, and that eberryone was A-OK.

In my opinion, it is moar moar moar useful to analyze eberryday problem like math/science/code/lab problem, figure out source of problem, and think about what can be done about problem.

Hi. People do many different kinds of things to fill in the gaps. It could be anything including even deep intellectual processing and pondering around certain interesting ideas, as I have done this for most of my life...and I am not saying not to do this, but....:-) (-:)

...and silence can mean different things in different contexts depending upon different human beings' subjective perceptions, but yes, it can be vital,a well spring, and if you are able to tap into that, how fortunate........

To me you are a very special and unique mind. It is okay to isolate, and can be very beneficial, especially at certain stages of development, though maybe not so much at other stages, and even when isolating it might be a good idea to never forget there are other people, many if not most of whom are suffering, even though they may not consciously know it. Your whole life is ahead of you with much wonderful discovering.. A very smart person is able to think very creatively and ultimately relate intelligently and creatively with other people who may not be so fortunate, and this can be world changing, as it brings both oneself and others to experience epiphany, and so raises the learning curve for many people..........