Autistics more likely to watch people's mouths?

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21 Jan 2007, 1:21 pm

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Sorry steave what does Bunk mean over there, as Bunk Bed it is used here?


HERE, BUNK CAN be used as "bunk bed". It can ALSO mean GARBAGE, SCAM, HOGWASH, etc... Look at all the meanings here:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bunk

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21 Jan 2007, 1:26 pm

Yes, I look at the mouth. For me it serves a two-fold purpose: 1) I lip read which makes up for some of my CAPD issues, and 2) it's a good compromise between not looking at the eyes (which makes me really uncomfortable) but still making "face contact".

And usually nobody can tell the difference if you're looking at the mouth vs. their eyes, unless you're up really really close to one another. From a normal conversational distance, it's not obvious.


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21 Jan 2007, 2:12 pm

I see Bunk is short for Bunkum... I can tell you it does work as in how do you think human lie detectors work...

You need all these face / mouth / eyes / sound / body postion to be a human lie detector, if any of them are not fully skilled, or weak you won't be able to, also it will destroy your ability if one fails, if your focusing on one thing... or only 2... so on not many people can do it...

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21 Jan 2007, 10:00 pm

Yep, I do it too. Much more comfortable than looking someone in the eyes.


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21 Jan 2007, 10:44 pm

I dislike looking at faces unless they are in photographs or in a movie. I rarely look directly at a person while talking to them, and I never make I contact.


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21 Jan 2007, 11:56 pm

logitechdog wrote:
I see Bunk is short for Bunkum... I can tell you it does work as in how do you think human lie detectors work...

You need all these face / mouth / eyes / sound / body postion to be a human lie detector, if any of them are not fully skilled, or weak you won't be able to, also it will destroy your ability if one fails, if your focusing on one thing... or only 2... so on not many people can do it...

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Actually, there is no such thing as a lie detector. That is just a stupid name to a bunch of gadgets combined that is called a polygraph. It HAS been proven that a good liar can beat it by remaining calm during a lie and/or triggering stress during the truth. ALSO, some fail to read it right. I can get aprehensive just being ACCUSED. THAT is why they aren't allowed as evidence.

And HECK, have you looked at the posts and pictures here? Some indicate some of you guys have pretty good "poker faces"! !! !!

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22 Jan 2007, 12:41 am

Said Human Lie detector not a Machine...



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22 Jan 2007, 4:23 am

yes, as others have said it's more comfortable that looking at people's eyes and also helps if you're having trouble hearing/understanding them for whatever reason (accents, background noise etc)


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22 Jan 2007, 4:26 am

Yeah, I tend to look people in the mouth too. I'd only find it comfortable looking them in the eyes if I knew them well and generally felt comfortable around them.


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22 Jan 2007, 7:02 am

SteveK wrote:
SAME HERE!! !! And it DOES sometimes help with some bad accents, etc...

Steve


Are you saying that my accent is bad? :lol:



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22 Jan 2007, 9:03 am

Most of the time I look at people's mouth whenever they communicate to me becuase I don't find it necessary to look at their eyes or facial expressions, it is also difficult to determine how long I should look into their eyes before I start emmiting the wrong signals.
Sometimes I look at their feet or on an object behind them.

On rare occasions I look at their eyes whenever they ask me a direct question that requires a direct or serious question, but I only look at them for a few seconds and then focus on something else and then back to the eyes because it can be very overwhelming.
I also have a habit of talking with my eyes closed and my head facing the ground whenever I am answering a detailed question or putting a serious point across, it helps me see the words in my head. NT's always complain whenever I do this.



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22 Jan 2007, 9:18 am

Sometimes I look at their mouth when they ask a question and then I glance in their eyes for a moment later and become instantly surprised that thier use tone of voice used in the question is never the same as their use of facial expression and vice versa.

For instance I might hear a miserable angry voice from that rotten mouth and then glance at their face to be surprised by a happy sort of smile, or vice versa, happy voice and a miserable face.

Can anybody relate to this?



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22 Jan 2007, 9:20 am

yeah i watch peoples mouths i dont look at people eyes because if i do they accuse me of staring at them



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22 Jan 2007, 9:36 am

This is an interesting topic....

I don't to pollute this forum with my answers so I'll make this one my last comment for this topic.

Ok, it is apparent that most AS's don't like responding visually, but how many AS's look into other people's eyes in a non conversation event or when the other person doesn't respond by looking?

I sometimes find myself staring at a stranger in the street whenever they are not looking back or responding, and what seems odd is that I have no remote sexual/particular interest in that person, and yet I stare at them with some interest that I cannot explain or describe?

Can anybody relate to this one?



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22 Jan 2007, 9:40 am

dexkaden wrote:
I dislike looking at faces unless they are in photographs or in a movie. I rarely look directly at a person while talking to them, and I never make I contact.


As a kid I could not look at a photo of a face or a close facial shot on tv. If it was a good looking women it was even harder to look.



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22 Jan 2007, 10:23 am

Watching people's mouths is natural for me, but I got told off for it when I was young so I learnt to look at their eyes. It always makes me uncomfortable because I don't know when to look, look away, look harder etc. There is a system there I can't grasp.