I am done with Wrong Planet!! !
whirlingmind
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I agree with everyone else that most of that is located in the PPR forum, and that there were other forums that have to do the life support resources that you shouldve posted that in.
So- give WP another try. But avoid the PPR ( unless you get in the mood to bludgeon someone).
Or be bludgeoned. PPR might be a hotbed of it, but it happens on a variety of the forums on WP. I think a bored Aspie is a dangerous Aspie, because they will make it their entertainment to scan through threads just to think of what sarcastic, belittling, argumentative or generally disagreeable thing they can say for the sake of it. They aren't contributing meaningfully, which says a lot about their personality.
The thing to remember OP, is that other people will have noticed their behaviour too and will concur, so don't feel singled out by pathetic posts such people make. Quite a lot of trolling goes on on WP, under the guise of superiority to try to make it look like they are saying intelligent and worthwhile things, but it's just a load of old bollocks dressed up in fancy terminology in reality, which constitutes trolling.
Don't give up so easily OP.
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I post often on other forums, and there is a difference. People here don't talk with each other, they talk past each other. Unless the topic is one of their interests, in which case you get a heated debate. Sometimes, I will get a response to something personal, but there is little follow through. It's not that I don't understand why that is, but it is interesting.
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No you're not, I think many have noticed it. And it's so shallow and arrogant, that they think they know everything purely on the basis that they attended a brick university. There is such a thing called the university of life, some people learn well from it and others don't - just like those who go to brick universities. Some people access material from a wide variety of sources and have exceptional abilities, but they didn't go to a brick university and get patted on the back with a piece of paper for it.
No-one knows everything, no-one is right about everything and we are all learning as we go. I cannot abide that sneering, condescension demonstrated by some members. Any useful idea that someone comes up with, any intelligent theory, any attempt at discussion and they will swoop in like the grim reaper and demand citations and research and try to kill discussion and make people feel inferior. They probably find it amusing, and set themselves a little challenge each day on how many threads they can kill. Perhaps they have score charts on their walls. Hey! Maybe it's their special interest.
I wonder if it's possible to get a masters in arrogance...
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If it was up to me I'd get rid of the PPR forum...or have one of those sticky posts up that clearly explains it is a debate forum. Amd though this may not be a popular opinion I think the site guidelines about personal attacks and what not should still apply in that forum though some moderators disagree and think personal attacks are fine in that forum.
I don't know I just have never seen anything good come out of that forum, just arguing and people belittling each other over different opinions.
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I don't know I just have never seen anything good come out of that forum, just arguing and people belittling each other over different opinions.
There is already a sticky post at the top of the forum explaining that it is a debate forum and it also gives members guidelines on what is and is not acceptable behaviour on that forum. If someone doesn't bother to read it that is their problem, they have no grounds for complaint when other members start debating their posts and amongst each other. The opening poster of a thread does not "own" that thread, nor can they dictate how it should progress. All members can participate and debate throwing in what opinions they hold.
It was the membership themselves that wanted a debate sub-forum within WP with minimal involvement from moderators, allowing members to debate amongst themselves with (almost) free speech. Moderators only tend to step in to threads in PPR when asked to do so or if we happen to spot someone making nasty personal attacks. The philosophy of the PPR forum is encapsulated in the site rule "Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not."
The best advice I can give regarding PPR is: "If you can't stand the heat, keep out of the kitchen". PPR is for debating and some debates do get very hot and are not for the feint hearted.
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I don't know I just have never seen anything good come out of that forum, just arguing and people belittling each other over different opinions.
There is already a sticky post at the top of the forum explaining that it is a debate forum and it also gives members guidelines on what is and is not acceptable behaviour on that forum. If someone doesn't bother to read it that is their problem, they have no grounds for complaint when other members start debating their posts and amongst each other. The opening poster of a thread does not "own" that thread, nor can they dictate how it should progress. All members can participate and debate throwing in what opinions they hold.
It was the membership themselves that wanted a debate sub-forum within WP with minimal involvement from moderators, allowing members to debate amongst themselves with (almost) free speech. Moderators only tend to step in to threads in PPR when asked to do so or if we happen to spot someone making nasty personal attacks. The philosophy of the PPR forum is encapsulated in the site rule "Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not."
The best advice I can give regarding PPR is: "If you can't stand the heat, keep out of the kitchen". PPR is for debating and some debates do get very hot and are not for the feint hearted.
Meh its not the debate part I mind, its that the site rules don't apply to that section that bothers me. It was either you or another moderator who stated personal attacks are fine, because its PPR. Or I could have misunderstood, anyways I have gotten in the habit of not continuing to post in a topic there when it turns into a flame fest.
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I don't know I just have never seen anything good come out of that forum, just arguing and people belittling each other over different opinions.
There is already a sticky post at the top of the forum explaining that it is a debate forum and it also gives members guidelines on what is and is not acceptable behaviour on that forum. If someone doesn't bother to read it that is their problem, they have no grounds for complaint when other members start debating their posts and amongst each other. The opening poster of a thread does not "own" that thread, nor can they dictate how it should progress. All members can participate and debate throwing in what opinions they hold.
It was the membership themselves that wanted a debate sub-forum within WP with minimal involvement from moderators, allowing members to debate amongst themselves with (almost) free speech. Moderators only tend to step in to threads in PPR when asked to do so or if we happen to spot someone making nasty personal attacks. The philosophy of the PPR forum is encapsulated in the site rule "Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not."
The best advice I can give regarding PPR is: "If you can't stand the heat, keep out of the kitchen". PPR is for debating and some debates do get very hot and are not for the feint hearted.
Meh its not the debate part I mind, its that the site rules don't apply to that section that bothers me. It was either you or another moderator who stated personal attacks are fine, because its PPR. Or I could have misunderstood, anyways I have gotten in the habit of not continuing to post in a topic there when it turns into a flame fest.
Neither me nor any other moderator has ever said personal attacks are fine in PPR. Quite the contrary. I suggest you read the PPR forum guidelines sticky at the head of the PPR forum.
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Difficult to follow, but not impossible.
Lately, I've taken to bailing on PP&R threads when it becomes obvious that the dominant posters are preaching "Troll Science" solely to demean and discredit people with real education and knowledge. Sometimes I bail just a day or two before the thread gets locked. Sometimes the thread just falls to the bottom of the screen and dies.
The hardest forum to avoid is The Haven. I've posted there with the best of intentions, only to screw up the thread so badly that a mod had to step in and issue a corrective order.
No, I am not proud of that.
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I don't know I just have never seen anything good come out of that forum, just arguing and people belittling each other over different opinions.
There is already a sticky post at the top of the forum explaining that it is a debate forum and it also gives members guidelines on what is and is not acceptable behaviour on that forum. If someone doesn't bother to read it that is their problem, they have no grounds for complaint when other members start debating their posts and amongst each other. The opening poster of a thread does not "own" that thread, nor can they dictate how it should progress. All members can participate and debate throwing in what opinions they hold.
It was the membership themselves that wanted a debate sub-forum within WP with minimal involvement from moderators, allowing members to debate amongst themselves with (almost) free speech. Moderators only tend to step in to threads in PPR when asked to do so or if we happen to spot someone making nasty personal attacks. The philosophy of the PPR forum is encapsulated in the site rule "Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not."
The best advice I can give regarding PPR is: "If you can't stand the heat, keep out of the kitchen". PPR is for debating and some debates do get very hot and are not for the feint hearted.
Meh its not the debate part I mind, its that the site rules don't apply to that section that bothers me...
. It was either you or another moderator who stated personal attacks are fine, because its PPR. Or I could have misunderstood, anyways I have gotten in the habit of not continuing to post in a topic there when it turns into a flame fest.
I have not posted or even looked there yet, but sometimes there does need to be different rules in different kinds of contexts, and the understanding of people in general regarding this is hopefully to some degree evolving..... Anyway, super-sensitivity to words may be kind of an aspie trait, at least for some, so maybe it is an opportunity to observe ones own reactions and so to learn and develop. Or just not go there. Not every spot is right for every person. That might require will power as it could involve the giving up of an ideal that everything can always be the way I want and even (think I) know is best.
Do you understand that words are just someone's opinion? Of course words can shape people's actions,--there is that to consider, so in this sense they are not exactly just someone's opinion. The subject of personal and social bias is very interesting to me. Maybe I will start a thread on this some time....
To the person who started this thread, please do not leave....maybe just sit back for a while....personally I rarely unsubscribe from a forum I am disillusioned with as maybe I will want to go back there some day and check it out and see what is happening---maybe even I myself will have changed and so see things a bit differently....
I came to Wrong Planet hoping to find a place of acceptance, but it is no different here, even in this anonymous world. Where we, as aspies, should be united, I have observed nothing but bickering, bigotry, and bullying. I get enough of that in the real world; I do not need to seek it out in cyberspace.
What do you mean by "as aspies, should be "united"?
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I have seen there are other members who are Christians so even though they are probably not the majority, you will come up against like-minded people. Just learn to filter out the bad-ass ones.
The two worst traits I see on WP, are academic snobbery and the argumentative type who just want to inflame and don't know what they are talking about. Just don't respond to those posts if you don't want to.
As you are a Christian, maybe you need to work harder on the "turn the other cheek" or "let he who is without sin..." or the attitude that we are all God's children aspects? I don't mean that in a facetious or sarcastic way, and I don't know how devout you are, but isn't that how Christians are supposed to be? They aren't my personal beliefs but I don't practice religion. Those aspects might help you to see their behaviours in a different light.
Turning the other cheek doesn't mean not standing up for what you believe in. So many people have that misconception about Christians, and I'm sick of it.
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this is an autism forum,where people with incredibly differing views are together in one big sort of pile.
if are wanting a forum which people can discuss christianity without fear of bullshittery then go to a good christianity forum.
if are being bullied or abused,report it.
but please dont insult the majority of us on here who try to help others,by assuming we are represented by the minority who are bullies, sockpuppeting liars, abusers,trolls hiding their loathing behind debate etc because we are not them.
if its affecting mental health then take a break-many of us do that,am personaly back on here after several years away due to severe bullying,no one is worth the destruction of mental health.
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YES...I'm not the only one who sees this!! !
I see a lot of this behaviour. I used to feel stupid as a result of that behaviour.
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