Aspergers Or Autistic Behavior With Brain Damage?

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28 Jul 2013, 4:47 am

zemanski wrote:
looks like your big sister probably didn't cause your autism then :)


Yeah, maybe! But I'd still like to blame that violent little prick with the hockey stick. I don't even really remember that or who. Must've been a good wack. That f****n @$$hole :lol:

I hope he's in prison now being somebody's b***h!



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28 Jul 2013, 4:52 am

any damage sustained from injury may exacerbate your problems but it's unlikely that it caused them

the violent p***k deserves his comeupance even if it's nothing to do with your ASC!

he may have had his own problems though - you never can tell with these things



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28 Jul 2013, 6:00 am

The problem with current brain scans is that they only detect 'gross' brain features which only differ from non-ASD brain by small amounts which is why they use a groups of people to tease out the small statistical differences.

No one has yet found any dramatic "holy sh*t!" brain scan indications (like having no corpus callosum)for ASD, let alone any that correlate with 99.9% accuracy (when you're making a diagnostic test for a rare condition (1%) the test has to be 99.9% accurate in order to only misdiagnose 1 NT for every 9 correctly diagnosed ASDers).

New research level scans are showing promise, though -- on TV I saw a researcher show a diffusion tensor image (basically traces the 'wiring' of the brain) of of a part of Temple Grandin's brain and an NT brain and the difference was obvious and dramatic.



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28 Jul 2013, 10:36 am

Hi. I am autistic and also have some brain damage from a lot of concussions. I realized this many years years ago but only recently did I come to face the fact of it. Actually it is very painful for me to write about this and I will have to stop for now, but one comment, a person with certain kinds of brain damage is more likely to encapsulate as that is a form of protection....and imo the major feature of autism....by encapsulate I mean to exaggerate the effects of one or more sensations or even a particular lopsided way of framing and then think of oneself kind of inside of it...like in an envelope. Also, people who are autistic are probably more prone to concussions...because they may be more clumsy and.or visually or audio impaired and/or are perceiving spatially a little bit different. I am unusually sensitive to light so things can wash out....I fell off the side of a very high embankment---over twenty feet because I slipped, which was the major concussion plus had major blows to the head a few times and probably fell a lot when I was a toddler and young child because steps etc. whited out from the light.....

I will maybe write later about the emotional feeling of having brain damage, but it is too painful to share right now...

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28 Jul 2013, 10:44 am

I have AS and brain damage. Nothing too severe though.


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28 Jul 2013, 12:19 pm

littlebee wrote:
Hi. I am autistic and also have some brain damage from a lot of concussions. I realized this many years years ago but only recently did I come to face the fact of it. Actually it is very painful for me to write about this and I will have to stop for now, but one comment, a person with certain kinds of brain damage is more likely to encapsulate as that is a form of protection....and imo the major feature of autism....by encapsulate I mean to exaggerate the effects of one or more sensations or even a particular lopsided way of framing and then think of oneself kind of inside of it...like in an envelope. Also, people who are autistic are probably more prone to concussions...because they may be more clumsy and.or visually or audio impaired and/or are perceiving spatially a little bit different. I am unusually sensitive to light so things can wash out....I fell off the side of a very high embankment---over twenty feet because I slipped, which was the major concussion plus had major blows to the head a few times and probably fell a lot when I was a toddler and young child because steps etc. whited out from the light.....

I will maybe write later about the emotional feeling of having brain damage, but it is too painful to share right now...

littlebee


Thanks for sharing! Don't feel obligated to share more if it's troubling to you. I appreciate the response regardless.



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28 Jul 2013, 1:16 pm

Prosopagnosia was originally thought to be caused only by trauma to the fusiform gyrus in the amygdala (responsible for facial recognition) and it was decades before it was discovered to have a congenital form too.
Now we know it affects about 2% of the general population and approximately 50% of the ASC population.



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30 Jul 2013, 9:39 am

zemanski wrote:
Prosopagnosia was originally thought to be caused only by trauma to the fusiform gyrus in the amygdala (responsible for facial recognition) and it was decades before it was discovered to have a congenital form too.
Now we know it affects about 2% of the general population and approximately 50% of the ASC population.

I do not know if people have read on another thread the long list of things I have, but I have this, too. Sometimes I can recognize faces very well; sometimes there is a maybe two second delay and sometimes when my own children visit me by surprise at work I do not even recognize them when they are walking up to me. The two second delay does not sound like much but it is very disturbing to people. as they think you are snubbing them, which is the last thing I would ever do, and people are very sensitive about being snubbed. This alone could greatly affect a person's social development as it feeds into and distorts the general tone of relationships.

Re the brain damage, it is easily possible to have brain damage and never even know it if it does not seem to overtly impair your functioning. In short, your functioning is impaired but you do not realize it. There is just a shift which gets factored in. I have the newspaper article about my accident with a barely discernible photo of me lying on the stretcher---very old and ratty with some holes in it because it sadly got lost and then stepped on on the floor. Anyway I now keep this photo right on top of my computer monitor and cherish this photo for some reason because it represents to me some kind of connection to myself....can you believe the heading on it? "River Injures Girl>" Yeah, ha, ha, it was the river.

This is very painful to write about because that was a troubled childhood in general, and I think this accident represents that to me. Anything is what it means to a person. Everything represents something else, generally speaking. This is how the mind works.The sorrow of this world is incredible, but people block it out, myself included....who knows what another person has gone through...the accident was a small thing but it represents something....

However I was probably born with the facial non-recognition thing as I am also have synesthesia, but do not know how many concussions I had as a toddler---probably a few as my eyes are very sensitive to light and so I had a lot of falls. I think there are two kinds of synesthesia also, congenital and from brain damage, but I have some evidence that mine is congenital. There is one interesting theory of autism is that when a child has some kind of visual, audio and/or spacial perception defect then they go more and more into their own little world with their own story about it as they do not catch on to what is happening around them in the same way that other people do.

The situation is complex. Each person is quite unique with his or her own subjective bank of experience. This is why it is best to start in the present moment and try to be sensitive to oneself and others, but again, if one is insensitive, then how does one know it? It is like brain damage. A part of oneself is missing (or maybe just asleep) and there is no way to know it because one just does not know that he does not know. This is what the fairy tales are about, when all the people in the castle including the cooks and the servants are turned into stone for a hundred years and then the seeker, the hero of the story as a part of his task to marry the king's daughter comes and touches them and his touch wakes them up.

The brain can recover some of its lost capacity as it is very flexible, but first a person has to discover the lost territory which he does not have the tools to discover because seemingly the tools are 'in' territory is lost, but there is a way in that the mind can begin to understand things the brain cannot, meaning if there is damage in one area of the brain, the entire brain working comprehensively carries the code to reorganize its own functioning. Very amazing actually.

The same with autiam. It is very complex and interesting the way different facets such as how a person is when he is born,plus other trauma, both physical and emotional can overlap and feed into the development of a human being, but if there is a way in,then there is also a way out...



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03 Aug 2013, 9:44 am

I wonder this too at times, I supposedly fell down the stairs in this house I lived in as a baby... I always wonder if I got brain damage from it.