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01 Mar 2014, 4:15 pm

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Having kids is selfish cause people just do it for the emotional experience of having kids and for no other reason. I do not want to take care of a child, I can barely handle myself as it is. Couples mostly fall into love because of physical attraction and to ensure reproduction to pass the good genes onto offspring, the bond between them is made subconsciously to make sure they stay together so the offspring is taken care of. I don't want to be apart of mother natures game, every human does not need to reproduce. Marriage is a human construct and less people are getting married, also most marriages end in divorce (because it's unnatural) couples get bored of each other, fight with each other, sacrifice space, time, energy for each other....for nothing but their emotions and intercourse. Also there is a risk of the children being ugly (It is a fact that parents tend to treat ugly children with less love then beautiful children) I do not want to resent my child for the rest of my life because they are ugly. Also there is risk of them having a disabling disease that would cost to much money to keep them. Children cost to much money to begin with.

There is no practical reason to reproduce.


If no one reproduced, we would not be here, you would not be here. As much as humanity is killing themselves, their are still good people out their, I myself included. I reproduced because I knew I had something to offer. I was born to be a mother ever since I was a kid. I connect with children on a level most adults do not understand, I became a teacher for that reason as well. I was a little selfish, as I wanted a bond that would be hard to break. As I do not communicate well with adults and I tend to push people away in the end, it is different with my children. They need me and them needing me, gives me a reason to live. My life was hell, I was a lonely child out of 3 siblings and no one understood me. My children will never have to deal with that because I will always be here for them and I will teach them how to survive and how to be a good person. My son has AS and my daughter is getting tested for cerebral palsy. I would never love either of them less because they didnt "look" beautiful or because they had a disability. I am not married, it is a waste of time and money but their are many people out their who live together forever because they truly love one another. I personally get bored of my partners to quick as you stated, I do love my childrens father but it is hard to keep it going when it is so exhausting to keep the other person happy. My children are another story though. Children really dont coast that much. The only difference now, is that we spend money on diapers and formula rather than junk for ourselves that we would eventually throw away or forget about anyway. So now their is a purpose for our money. I love that my children give me a purpose. People tell me I am a one of a kind mother. I allow my children to speak, but I do not allow them to disrespect. They know their boundries and I teach them to be kind. I give them each one on one attention and family time as well. They are getting the most out of life and I am proud to be able to guide them.

It hurts to think you feel so poorly toward humanity and including yourself. No, not everyone can love, not everyone can live with others, but purpose or no purpose, its at least a nice chance to see what we can do with ourselves.

p.s- I do not think most parents can tell when their child is ugly to be honest, I have personally seen some down right ugly kids be treated like kings and queens and put on pedastools by their parents. Only coldhearted monsters treat their children differently if they notice they are ugly.



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01 Mar 2014, 4:21 pm

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Personally! I don't want to have kids. I don't think I could stand to have a baby/kid screaming at me, especially at 3am. I like my home space to myself and knowing I have to share my space with another person would drive me nuts.


To be honest, it was really hard. My children were good sleepers but when they went off schedule, and had a random late night cry, I would have meltdowns, but that is when my partner came in and took over for me. The hardest thing dealing with children and having AS is when they get off schedule, and children tend to do that often. Especially babies. BUT, it is worth it.



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01 Mar 2014, 5:08 pm

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Having kids is selfish cause people just do it for the emotional experience of having kids and for no other reason. I do not want to take care of a child, I can barely handle myself as it is. Couples mostly fall into love because of physical attraction and to ensure reproduction to pass the good genes onto offspring, the bond between them is made subconsciously to make sure they stay together so the offspring is taken care of. I don't want to be apart of mother natures game, every human does not need to reproduce. Marriage is a human construct and less people are getting married, also most marriages end in divorce (because it's unnatural) couples get bored of each other, fight with each other, sacrifice space, time, energy for each other....for nothing but their emotions and intercourse. Also there is a risk of the children being ugly (It is a fact that parents tend to treat ugly children with less love then beautiful children) I do not want to resent my child for the rest of my life because they are ugly. Also there is risk of them having a disabling disease that would cost to much money to keep them. Children cost to much money to begin with.

There is no practical reason to reproduce.


If no one reproduced, we would not be here, you would not be here. As much as humanity is killing themselves, their are still good people out their, I myself included. I reproduced because I knew I had something to offer. I was born to be a mother ever since I was a kid. I connect with children on a level most adults do not understand, I became a teacher for that reason as well. I was a little selfish, as I wanted a bond that would be hard to break. As I do not communicate well with adults and I tend to push people away in the end, it is different with my children. They need me and them needing me, gives me a reason to live. My life was hell, I was a lonely child out of 3 siblings and no one understood me. My children will never have to deal with that because I will always be here for them and I will teach them how to survive and how to be a good person. My son has AS and my daughter is getting tested for cerebral palsy. I would never love either of them less because they didnt "look" beautiful or because they had a disability. I am not married, it is a waste of time and money but their are many people out their who live together forever because they truly love one another. I personally get bored of my partners to quick as you stated, I do love my childrens father but it is hard to keep it going when it is so exhausting to keep the other person happy. My children are another story though. Children really dont coast that much. The only difference now, is that we spend money on diapers and formula rather than junk for ourselves that we would eventually throw away or forget about anyway. So now their is a purpose for our money. I love that my children give me a purpose. People tell me I am a one of a kind mother. I allow my children to speak, but I do not allow them to disrespect. They know their boundries and I teach them to be kind. I give them each one on one attention and family time as well. They are getting the most out of life and I am proud to be able to guide them.

It hurts to think you feel so poorly toward humanity and including yourself. No, not everyone can love, not everyone can live with others, but purpose or no purpose, its at least a nice chance to see what we can do with ourselves.

p.s- I do not think most parents can tell when their child is ugly to be honest, I have personally seen some down right ugly kids be treated like kings and queens and put on pedastools by their parents. Only coldhearted monsters treat their children differently if they notice they are ugly.


I wrote that hurried and I realize it might come off as offensive to people who already have children. I feel everything related to mating or having a partner is driven by evolutionary hardwired principles. I feel as if nature I tricking me and encouraging me into reproducing and telling me I need a partner. Well you know what nature? Screw you.

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01 Mar 2014, 5:21 pm

In truth, what makes you most happy? if it be children, then its your life to fulfill, never mind what the world wants or your fears of it. its up to the child how to handle what comes next, as it was for us. its only our job to help them understand it and prepare for it, for what would make them the most happy with what they have and can do with it, and try to help them understand how we think it could be made better, hoping our wisdom can help task them into a better world tomorrow for their own sakes. how can we expect them to make their own lives happy, when all they see is our own sacrifice for them, are we happy?

If you do want child but fear it, realize, its their tomorrow to decide what is best, not ours, were just their guides...



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01 Mar 2014, 9:23 pm

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inachildsmind wrote:
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Having kids is selfish cause people just do it for the emotional experience of having kids and for no other reason. I do not want to take care of a child, I can barely handle myself as it is. Couples mostly fall into love because of physical attraction and to ensure reproduction to pass the good genes onto offspring, the bond between them is made subconsciously to make sure they stay together so the offspring is taken care of. I don't want to be apart of mother natures game, every human does not need to reproduce. Marriage is a human construct and less people are getting married, also most marriages end in divorce (because it's unnatural) couples get bored of each other, fight with each other, sacrifice space, time, energy for each other....for nothing but their emotions and intercourse. Also there is a risk of the children being ugly (It is a fact that parents tend to treat ugly children with less love then beautiful children) I do not want to resent my child for the rest of my life because they are ugly. Also there is risk of them having a disabling disease that would cost to much money to keep them. Children cost to much money to begin with.

There is no practical reason to reproduce.


If no one reproduced, we would not be here, you would not be here. As much as humanity is killing themselves, their are still good people out their, I myself included. I reproduced because I knew I had something to offer. I was born to be a mother ever since I was a kid. I connect with children on a level most adults do not understand, I became a teacher for that reason as well. I was a little selfish, as I wanted a bond that would be hard to break. As I do not communicate well with adults and I tend to push people away in the end, it is different with my children. They need me and them needing me, gives me a reason to live. My life was hell, I was a lonely child out of 3 siblings and no one understood me. My children will never have to deal with that because I will always be here for them and I will teach them how to survive and how to be a good person. My son has AS and my daughter is getting tested for cerebral palsy. I would never love either of them less because they didnt "look" beautiful or because they had a disability. I am not married, it is a waste of time and money but their are many people out their who live together forever because they truly love one another. I personally get bored of my partners to quick as you stated, I do love my childrens father but it is hard to keep it going when it is so exhausting to keep the other person happy. My children are another story though. Children really dont coast that much. The only difference now, is that we spend money on diapers and formula rather than junk for ourselves that we would eventually throw away or forget about anyway. So now their is a purpose for our money. I love that my children give me a purpose. People tell me I am a one of a kind mother. I allow my children to speak, but I do not allow them to disrespect. They know their boundries and I teach them to be kind. I give them each one on one attention and family time as well. They are getting the most out of life and I am proud to be able to guide them.

It hurts to think you feel so poorly toward humanity and including yourself. No, not everyone can love, not everyone can live with others, but purpose or no purpose, its at least a nice chance to see what we can do with ourselves.

p.s- I do not think most parents can tell when their child is ugly to be honest, I have personally seen some down right ugly kids be treated like kings and queens and put on pedastools by their parents. Only coldhearted monsters treat their children differently if they notice they are ugly.


I wrote that hurried and I realize it might come off as offensive to people who already have children. I feel everything related to mating or having a partner is driven by evolutionary hardwired principles. I feel as if nature I tricking me and encouraging me into reproducing and telling me I need a partner. Well you know what nature? Screw you.

~forever alone without tears


No worries, I do not get offended, and I hate people who do. You were giving your opinion and everyone has a right to do that. At least you can be happy being alone. It is hard to not want to rely on someone else, though sometimes, it does have a nice ring too it lol.



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02 Mar 2014, 4:13 am

inachildsmind wrote:
Dreycrux wrote:
inachildsmind wrote:
Dreycrux wrote:
Having kids is selfish cause people just do it for the emotional experience of having kids and for no other reason. I do not want to take care of a child, I can barely handle myself as it is. Couples mostly fall into love because of physical attraction and to ensure reproduction to pass the good genes onto offspring, the bond between them is made subconsciously to make sure they stay together so the offspring is taken care of. I don't want to be apart of mother natures game, every human does not need to reproduce. Marriage is a human construct and less people are getting married, also most marriages end in divorce (because it's unnatural) couples get bored of each other, fight with each other, sacrifice space, time, energy for each other....for nothing but their emotions and intercourse. Also there is a risk of the children being ugly (It is a fact that parents tend to treat ugly children with less love then beautiful children) I do not want to resent my child for the rest of my life because they are ugly. Also there is risk of them having a disabling disease that would cost to much money to keep them. Children cost to much money to begin with.

There is no practical reason to reproduce.


If no one reproduced, we would not be here, you would not be here. As much as humanity is killing themselves, their are still good people out their, I myself included. I reproduced because I knew I had something to offer. I was born to be a mother ever since I was a kid. I connect with children on a level most adults do not understand, I became a teacher for that reason as well. I was a little selfish, as I wanted a bond that would be hard to break. As I do not communicate well with adults and I tend to push people away in the end, it is different with my children. They need me and them needing me, gives me a reason to live. My life was hell, I was a lonely child out of 3 siblings and no one understood me. My children will never have to deal with that because I will always be here for them and I will teach them how to survive and how to be a good person. My son has AS and my daughter is getting tested for cerebral palsy. I would never love either of them less because they didnt "look" beautiful or because they had a disability. I am not married, it is a waste of time and money but their are many people out their who live together forever because they truly love one another. I personally get bored of my partners to quick as you stated, I do love my childrens father but it is hard to keep it going when it is so exhausting to keep the other person happy. My children are another story though. Children really dont coast that much. The only difference now, is that we spend money on diapers and formula rather than junk for ourselves that we would eventually throw away or forget about anyway. So now their is a purpose for our money. I love that my children give me a purpose. People tell me I am a one of a kind mother. I allow my children to speak, but I do not allow them to disrespect. They know their boundries and I teach them to be kind. I give them each one on one attention and family time as well. They are getting the most out of life and I am proud to be able to guide them.

It hurts to think you feel so poorly toward humanity and including yourself. No, not everyone can love, not everyone can live with others, but purpose or no purpose, its at least a nice chance to see what we can do with ourselves.

p.s- I do not think most parents can tell when their child is ugly to be honest, I have personally seen some down right ugly kids be treated like kings and queens and put on pedastools by their parents. Only coldhearted monsters treat their children differently if they notice they are ugly.


I wrote that hurried and I realize it might come off as offensive to people who already have children. I feel everything related to mating or having a partner is driven by evolutionary hardwired principles. I feel as if nature I tricking me and encouraging me into reproducing and telling me I need a partner. Well you know what nature? Screw you.

~forever alone without tears


No worries, I do not get offended, and I hate people who do. You were giving your opinion and everyone has a right to do that. At least you can be happy being alone. It is hard to not want to rely on someone else, though sometimes, it does have a nice ring too it lol.


I don't understand this bit, can you explain?
I know what the phrase means as I have been told but I do not know what it means in this context.



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02 Mar 2014, 7:18 am

I had always wanted a family kids, like it was part of my idea of how my life would be for as long as i can remember. unfortunately this idea didnt give any indication as for how to achieve this. I am 28 no and have everything else in my life sorted out but i cant get the hang of women or dating so lately i've been putting my energy into accepting that i will quite likely always be alone and trying to be okay with that.

Maybe one day i'll meet a nice girl who actually says what she means and i'll get to have childNode[0] and childNode[1]



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02 Mar 2014, 9:56 pm

LifUlfur wrote:
inachildsmind wrote:
Dreycrux wrote:
inachildsmind wrote:
Dreycrux wrote:
Having kids is selfish cause people just do it for the emotional experience of having kids and for no other reason. I do not want to take care of a child, I can barely handle myself as it is. Couples mostly fall into love because of physical attraction and to ensure reproduction to pass the good genes onto offspring, the bond between them is made subconsciously to make sure they stay together so the offspring is taken care of. I don't want to be apart of mother natures game, every human does not need to reproduce. Marriage is a human construct and less people are getting married, also most marriages end in divorce (because it's unnatural) couples get bored of each other, fight with each other, sacrifice space, time, energy for each other....for nothing but their emotions and intercourse. Also there is a risk of the children being ugly (It is a fact that parents tend to treat ugly children with less love then beautiful children) I do not want to resent my child for the rest of my life because they are ugly. Also there is risk of them having a disabling disease that would cost to much money to keep them. Children cost to much money to begin with.

There is no practical reason to reproduce.


If no one reproduced, we would not be here, you would not be here. As much as humanity is killing themselves, their are still good people out their, I myself included. I reproduced because I knew I had something to offer. I was born to be a mother ever since I was a kid. I connect with children on a level most adults do not understand, I became a teacher for that reason as well. I was a little selfish, as I wanted a bond that would be hard to break. As I do not communicate well with adults and I tend to push people away in the end, it is different with my children. They need me and them needing me, gives me a reason to live. My life was hell, I was a lonely child out of 3 siblings and no one understood me. My children will never have to deal with that because I will always be here for them and I will teach them how to survive and how to be a good person. My son has AS and my daughter is getting tested for cerebral palsy. I would never love either of them less because they didnt "look" beautiful or because they had a disability. I am not married, it is a waste of time and money but their are many people out their who live together forever because they truly love one another. I personally get bored of my partners to quick as you stated, I do love my childrens father but it is hard to keep it going when it is so exhausting to keep the other person happy. My children are another story though. Children really dont coast that much. The only difference now, is that we spend money on diapers and formula rather than junk for ourselves that we would eventually throw away or forget about anyway. So now their is a purpose for our money. I love that my children give me a purpose. People tell me I am a one of a kind mother. I allow my children to speak, but I do not allow them to disrespect. They know their boundries and I teach them to be kind. I give them each one on one attention and family time as well. They are getting the most out of life and I am proud to be able to guide them.

It hurts to think you feel so poorly toward humanity and including yourself. No, not everyone can love, not everyone can live with others, but purpose or no purpose, its at least a nice chance to see what we can do with ourselves.

p.s- I do not think most parents can tell when their child is ugly to be honest, I have personally seen some down right ugly kids be treated like kings and queens and put on pedastools by their parents. Only coldhearted monsters treat their children differently if they notice they are ugly.


I wrote that hurried and I realize it might come off as offensive to people who already have children. I feel everything related to mating or having a partner is driven by evolutionary hardwired principles. I feel as if nature I tricking me and encouraging me into reproducing and telling me I need a partner. Well you know what nature? Screw you.

~forever alone without tears


No worries, I do not get offended, and I hate people who do. You were giving your opinion and everyone has a right to do that. At least you can be happy being alone. It is hard to not want to rely on someone else, though sometimes, it does have a nice ring too it lol.


I don't understand this bit, can you explain?
I know what the phrase means as I have been told but I do not know what it means in this context.


Sorry, it popped into my head and sounded like a good fit lol. I just ment it sounds like a good idea to have someone around that you can always rely on. I am not good with talking like that, as I just learn from what I hear and I think I heard it on a show recently cause I have been using it lately. I hope I cleared it up a bit for you. If not I think I just used it wrong in this sentence.



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02 Mar 2014, 11:53 pm

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If you wait till the conditions are right for having children, it will never happen. its just best to go for it and things will work them selves out as you go.

The more I was rejected by women the more I wanted children. I wanted that family of my own my whole life, and it felt like if I kept waiting for woman to accept me I would never have had children. it felt so unfair.

Eventually I did have that son, the woman didnt want to keep me but I do have that son, and he has been way WORTH IT. out of all my lonely years I have finely found that best friend to do things with and spend time with and to love and that loves me back. and that wont just go away once board with me, my own captive audience that wants to stay and spend time with me.

Compared to what my life was like before he came along, I am 200% happier, just I really wish I could have kept the woman too, I get lonely for that companionship I could only get from a partner and a mate. but cant have everything can I?

I never had friends while growing up and over the long empty years, he has made a world of difference to me and in my life. through him I can be that kid again to play with a friend I never had at those ages. same for when he becomes that teen, and when he finely moves on with a wife and child of his own, perhaps I can be that spoiling grand parent as well.

And contrary to how other perceive me to be, or what kind of parent others thought I would become, as it turned out I am one hell of a good parent and father, do better then most parents where there is a couple to help raise the child instead of a single parent like me. so even though women didn't see me as that kind of mate material, they were wrong, I make a damn good father. I just needed that chance to prove it. I may not be that best or perfect parent, but I damn well know I am better then most.

Just because a man can not always be what a woman wants him to be, does not mean he would make a bad father or parent.


But, isn't that how some people end up with kids at a young age but aren't ready to take care of them, and are in financial or emotional situations that will undoubtedly make thing worse?



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micfranklin wrote:
AspergianMutantt wrote:
If you wait till the conditions are right for having children, it will never happen. its just best to go for it and things will work them selves out as you go.

The more I was rejected by women the more I wanted children. I wanted that family of my own my whole life, and it felt like if I kept waiting for woman to accept me I would never have had children. it felt so unfair.

Eventually I did have that son, the woman didnt want to keep me but I do have that son, and he has been way WORTH IT. out of all my lonely years I have finely found that best friend to do things with and spend time with and to love and that loves me back. and that wont just go away once board with me, my own captive audience that wants to stay and spend time with me.

Compared to what my life was like before he came along, I am 200% happier, just I really wish I could have kept the woman too, I get lonely for that companionship I could only get from a partner and a mate. but cant have everything can I?

I never had friends while growing up and over the long empty years, he has made a world of difference to me and in my life. through him I can be that kid again to play with a friend I never had at those ages. same for when he becomes that teen, and when he finely moves on with a wife and child of his own, perhaps I can be that spoiling grand parent as well.

And contrary to how other perceive me to be, or what kind of parent others thought I would become, as it turned out I am one hell of a good parent and father, do better then most parents where there is a couple to help raise the child instead of a single parent like me. so even though women didn't see me as that kind of mate material, they were wrong, I make a damn good father. I just needed that chance to prove it. I may not be that best or perfect parent, but I damn well know I am better then most.

Just because a man can not always be what a woman wants him to be, does not mean he would make a bad father or parent.


But, isn't that how some people end up with kids at a young age but aren't ready to take care of them, and are in financial or emotional situations that will undoubtedly make thing worse?


That's probably true, though the sad thing is most people are in financial situations these days, mostly from economy. I'm not defending the idea of having kids young, but sadly we live in a crappy economic time, whenever anyone chooses to have kids now, it'll be under monetary strain, so I'm not sure using it as an example of an unstable situation makes a lot of sense anymore.


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Jaden wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
AspergianMutantt wrote:
If you wait till the conditions are right for having children, it will never happen. its just best to go for it and things will work them selves out as you go.

The more I was rejected by women the more I wanted children. I wanted that family of my own my whole life, and it felt like if I kept waiting for woman to accept me I would never have had children. it felt so unfair.

Eventually I did have that son, the woman didnt want to keep me but I do have that son, and he has been way WORTH IT. out of all my lonely years I have finely found that best friend to do things with and spend time with and to love and that loves me back. and that wont just go away once board with me, my own captive audience that wants to stay and spend time with me.

Compared to what my life was like before he came along, I am 200% happier, just I really wish I could have kept the woman too, I get lonely for that companionship I could only get from a partner and a mate. but cant have everything can I?

I never had friends while growing up and over the long empty years, he has made a world of difference to me and in my life. through him I can be that kid again to play with a friend I never had at those ages. same for when he becomes that teen, and when he finely moves on with a wife and child of his own, perhaps I can be that spoiling grand parent as well.

And contrary to how other perceive me to be, or what kind of parent others thought I would become, as it turned out I am one hell of a good parent and father, do better then most parents where there is a couple to help raise the child instead of a single parent like me. so even though women didn't see me as that kind of mate material, they were wrong, I make a damn good father. I just needed that chance to prove it. I may not be that best or perfect parent, but I damn well know I am better then most.

Just because a man can not always be what a woman wants him to be, does not mean he would make a bad father or parent.


But, isn't that how some people end up with kids at a young age but aren't ready to take care of them, and are in financial or emotional situations that will undoubtedly make thing worse?


That's probably true, though the sad thing is most people are in financial situations these days, mostly from economy. I'm not defending the idea of having kids young, but sadly we live in a crappy economic time, whenever anyone chooses to have kids now, it'll be under monetary strain, so I'm not sure using it as an example of an unstable situation makes a lot of sense anymore.


I feel that if you personally are ready, have a partner and a decent place to live, waiting for everything else to fall into place is a waste of time because nothing will ever be "ready" enough for a child. So I see it as having the partner and the house. The world sucks for families right now and everyone struggles. As long as you think you can handle the struggles, why wait till your "life" is ready, just go for it when YOU are.



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03 Mar 2014, 10:38 am

I dont see that many pros in getting kids young.

- Getting kids young, means getting them with a partner you hardly know now. I think you should at least wait for that honeymoon feelings to be gone, and being able to rationally judge your partner, before creating kids. Simply for giving that kids better odds to live in an happy relationship with their parents.

-Then kids needs time. If you actually very young, you wont have managed yet to afford a place for living, having some ressources for emergeny, healthcare, ...

- As an young adult, you are as well a bit more "moody". So you normally have a higher grade of activity, which can be of an benefit, but normally thats as well linked with being more instinctive and spontanous.

-And the biggest argument: If you are young parents, chances are high, that the grandparents are still working as well. So noone to call if the kid is actually sick, and cant go into kindergarten or whatever. Noone that might babysit them for you once a week, so you can focus on your partner and relationship... Having grandparents, that are already in rent and available, is in my oppinion a big pro.

I am aware, that a toddlers need will be causing much stress, but my partner and I have because of that finished everything else before it (house building, ...), and safed some ressources. So actually, if everything goes according to plan, I will be able to stay at home for two years and then be able to work part-time. Hope that this will match up for the stress the little one will cause. :) (And if not, there is luckily a pair of grandparents living 5 minutes from here, so before I get into thoughts about throwing the kids out of the window, there is luckily the option to ask for help every now and then. "You bugged us ten years for your grandkids...now have fun with them for an hour. ^^ )



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03 Mar 2014, 10:49 am

You people stress to much, for what comes natural for you once you start heading down that road.



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03 Mar 2014, 11:22 am

inachildsmind wrote:
Jaden wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
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If you wait till the conditions are right for having children, it will never happen. its just best to go for it and things will work them selves out as you go.

The more I was rejected by women the more I wanted children. I wanted that family of my own my whole life, and it felt like if I kept waiting for woman to accept me I would never have had children. it felt so unfair.

Eventually I did have that son, the woman didnt want to keep me but I do have that son, and he has been way WORTH IT. out of all my lonely years I have finely found that best friend to do things with and spend time with and to love and that loves me back. and that wont just go away once board with me, my own captive audience that wants to stay and spend time with me.

Compared to what my life was like before he came along, I am 200% happier, just I really wish I could have kept the woman too, I get lonely for that companionship I could only get from a partner and a mate. but cant have everything can I?

I never had friends while growing up and over the long empty years, he has made a world of difference to me and in my life. through him I can be that kid again to play with a friend I never had at those ages. same for when he becomes that teen, and when he finely moves on with a wife and child of his own, perhaps I can be that spoiling grand parent as well.

And contrary to how other perceive me to be, or what kind of parent others thought I would become, as it turned out I am one hell of a good parent and father, do better then most parents where there is a couple to help raise the child instead of a single parent like me. so even though women didn't see me as that kind of mate material, they were wrong, I make a damn good father. I just needed that chance to prove it. I may not be that best or perfect parent, but I damn well know I am better then most.

Just because a man can not always be what a woman wants him to be, does not mean he would make a bad father or parent.


But, isn't that how some people end up with kids at a young age but aren't ready to take care of them, and are in financial or emotional situations that will undoubtedly make thing worse?


That's probably true, though the sad thing is most people are in financial situations these days, mostly from economy. I'm not defending the idea of having kids young, but sadly we live in a crappy economic time, whenever anyone chooses to have kids now, it'll be under monetary strain, so I'm not sure using it as an example of an unstable situation makes a lot of sense anymore.


I feel that if you personally are ready, have a partner and a decent place to live, waiting for everything else to fall into place is a waste of time because nothing will ever be "ready" enough for a child. So I see it as having the partner and the house. The world sucks for families right now and everyone struggles. As long as you think you can handle the struggles, why wait till your "life" is ready, just go for it when YOU are.


Exactly, I agree. There will always be something that isn't quite right, but it's more about the people than anything. With me, as long as we have a place to live and food to feed our kids (when my gf and I have them), then I'm ok with the challenge.


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03 Mar 2014, 11:32 am

Not really, I don't see how I would take care of kids....especially when they are very small and loud 8O. Also though I am not entirely opposed to the idea of meeting someone and having it end up in an intimate relationship....but not exactly seeking that out either, intimacy is hard for me which has led to all my somewhat short term relationships ending.


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03 Mar 2014, 12:40 pm

I thought it meant that it sounded nice.
Because of "ring", like tapping a glass.
Thanks for clearing it up for me.