Iowa Parents Defend Bullying of Aspie teen

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That just goes to show us just how backwards this world really is.

I fear for the safety and future of the two classmates of Null's that apologized to him.. If they are not psychically beaten the teachers and the principle will frame them.

frame-up (frmp)
n. Informal
1. A scheme to incriminate an innocent person.

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Honestly, I thought I would read this in print however from experence I can tell you the thoughts displayed in this artical are all too common. Also goes to show that disclosing to school children and even parents isn't a clear path to acceptance.

yep

It'll always be Lord of the Flies because the majority like it that way.  If their kid is either the bully or a non-acting bystander then they are getting a small social status boost relative to the weird kid. It's why human cultures almost always have "untouchables" of one sort or another.  

They're so arrogant about something they've never experienced (getting bullied once or twice is nothing like daily harrassment).  I almost enjoy the cases where the bullied kid snaps and does something awful.

This makes me very grateful that I grew up in a classy area and experienced no bullying. The world is a lot more stupid than I expected however, after I moved out of that area.

It's not unexpected that these bullies' parents are supporting their behaviors. If they aren't like that, their kids are not likely to be bullies.

No surprise to me. There were about 10 kids bullying me and all 10 had their parents contacted. Only one (the distant #10 bully) ever had their parents apologize to mine and the other 9 seemed to feel I deserved it. After all, their parents all either turned a blind eye to obvious bullying or in one case, the parents started bullying me too.

It should come as no surprise watching some prison documentaries that prisons and schools are VERY similar, far more similar than anyone wants to admit. I always felt that school was just a holding cell for children and the more I learn the more I realize I'm not far off the truth. The same 'primal' behavior is most pronounced in both those places. Strange how outside of school (i.e. baseball) I was never bullied once. I remember a teacher telling us once "in real world, nobody will remember your name like I do". All I could think was thank God for that!

I agree! This is what many of us should learn from this madness. People... most people could care less if your difference has a name.

10 years ago this would have happened to an LGBT kid, and if this happened to an autistic kid at all it wouldn't even have made the news. At least we've made some progress and people are actually condemning this rather than rushing to defend the NT parents.

That doesn't excuse using physical violence against someone whose actions aren't physically endangering or threatening you.

People are far too willing to make excuses for this behavior, calling it "the monkey" or "human nature" or "lord of the flies." The truth is kids do this because no one teaches them not to do it, and in many cases they are actually taught to do it.

Did you mean you expect the teachers and principle will abuse their psyches?

Whether you made a typo or spelling error or not, you're going a bit too far to say they'll try to frame those kids.

Unless you've seen those particular adults over a period of time do that to other kids, you have no reason to assume they'll do such a thing. Even the way the world is today, that type of thing just isn't common. You're painting too dark a picture.

You interpreted my meaning correctly. Even if the 2 kids who apologized are not psychically beaten or have incriminating evidence planted on them I can see flaws of the 2 kids that apologized become the issue instead of the bullies. That is not a stretch we have seen this already and it is framing them in a way. Such false accusations can follow a person and ruin their future which is what I mentioned. I certainly hope this is paranoia on my part and that my fear is misplaced. With the attitudes expressed by these so called parents, an the actions of the teachers and school administration what I see is an attitude similar to that of the "Blue Wall Of Silence" with police or what existed for a time at Penn State during the Sandusky scandal where protecting their own is more important then what their own did and anybody that deviates from the group is viewed as a traitor and dealt with accordingly. I have not changed my mind, if the things I wrote about happened it would not surprise me at all and I fear for those kids. What I hope happens and what would prevent my prediction from coming true is more kids apologizing and more intense media scrutiny so these ----- know they are being watched.

As dark a view as I have of the world I don't believe it is like this to this extent everywhere or even most places. Kids bully, helicopter parents defend their kids but for all the adults to unanimously and publicly side with the bullies has legitimately shocked me.

I do enjoy it. A lot of the time when I hear about things like school shootings my first thought is that it was a bullied kid who snapped and got their revenge on the kids that were abusing them and the teachers that turned a blind eye to it or joined in. If I wasn't so quiet and nonviolent and passive I could have ended up doing that when I was in school. Instead I skipped a lot resulting in multiple family court visits and being sent away twice.

I support home schooling, especially for kids that have problems in school. If I could have been home schooled I could have had an actual education and maybe be a little less screwed up. My school experience taught me to hate people.

As someone upthread said, this kind of reprehensible behavior is learned, not a "natural outcome of being human". It pisses me off that people still use the natural fallacy to excuse acts of bullying. It's as if the majority likes the world just as it is since it benefits them by making their children "better" than the poor kids who do get harassed. We have seen an increase in mass shootings over the years and I think part of it is the result of society being so callous and mean. We can change this problem easily. But we will have to actually want change before that happens.

What wrong thing I did to you to be hated by you?
You wrote that you hate people, so I guess that you hate me as well?
I've been hated and bullied a lot in school as well and it made me very paranoid about everyone but I don't hate all people. I just hate those who have hurt me, I am just paranoid about the others and am ready to defend myself from them in case they try to attack me.
But hey, if you hate me, go on with it. Just another person in the list of those that hate me without a reason is not that much after all.
Oh, and about school shootings most of the times the bullied ones do them as adults and kill innocent kids that did them no harm. I don't think that is a useful thing to do. At least kill those who have hurt you, not those who did you no harm. What kind of dumb revenge is that? But heh, to each their own
I both skipped school and snapped back at the bullies.
Every time I snapped back I got into troubles.
Once I poured ice cream on a boy's pants, another time I kicked a guy in the leg and another time I pushed one against the wall. A few times I slapped or punched some classmates. I got in troubles after those.
I also used to tease them in some occasions.
In 7th grade a boy used to tell me I didn't have a house and led in the school because at the time my father used to drive me to school very early and I was always the first one to enter the classroom. Once he was in the classroom before I arrived and I told him "you were kicked out of the house this night and now you live here, I guess?". It is fun acting like a bully to those who bully you. It makes me feel strong. I was told to never be like that because that's not right. I don't think so. I'd be dumb if I didn't want to hurt those who hurt me.
Then a lot of times I skipped school or went away before the lessons were over. I had a lot of panick attacks back then. I never got into any trouble for that, I guess because they knew I had ADD and in 8th grade that I also had Asperger's. I could say that by being diagnosed with AS in 8th grade I gained one more excuse to do as I wanted
People always think they can take advantage of me because I act shy and passive. But I am very violent and can get dangerous when I am being annoyed. I am on guard all the time and expect everyone to attack me. Whoever is gonna attack me will get a knife in their throath or heart. Literally.