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09 Feb 2007, 11:37 am

I give up. You must be thick as a goddamn plank, 'cause I am certain I expressed myself clear enough to be understood.



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09 Feb 2007, 11:42 am

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Rett syndrome isn't an autism spectrum disorder, it's a pervasive developmental disorder.
this is what you said, wich doesnt make sence. then you tryed to finagle it in a way that makes sence. thats what you did


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09 Feb 2007, 1:34 pm

onefourninezero wrote:
Allow me to quote myself.

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Rett syndrome isn't an autism spectrum disorder, it's a pervasive developmental disorder.


Sure looks like that's what I said.

Like I said, I thought Asperger's, autism and PDD-NOS were considered to be autism spectrum disorders. I also though Rett syndrome was considered to be a pervasive developmental disorder, as well as Asperger's, autism and PDD-NOS. Therefore meaning, there is a difference between the two terms.

Sorry, this has gone a bit off-topic.


WRONG! Autism and Aspergers are considered a PDD "disorder"!
Rett is considered a PDD, but NOT autism/aspergers.

So a cat is an animal! a DOG is an animal! A cat is NOT a dog!

When the Psychiatrist gives up on further classification, s/he says "OK, it is a PDD but I won't go further". The medical abbreviation is PDD-NOS!

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Rett syndrome is a neurodevelopmental disorder that is classified as a pervasive developmental disorder by the DSM-IV. Many argue that this is a mis-classification just as it would be to include such disorders as fragile X syndrome, tuberous sclerosis, or Down syndrome where one can see autistic features. The symptoms of this disorder are most easily confused with those of Angelman syndrome and autism.


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09 Feb 2007, 2:02 pm

how the heck do you diagnose a mouse with autism?



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09 Feb 2007, 2:05 pm

According to my doctor PDD is when a child has difficulty learning to walk and talk. My understanding was it is a comorbid condition in some people that have Aspergers or Autism just like some AS can also have ADHD and Bi-polar. PDD is not the same as autism. I don't care what Wikipedia says on it. Some people here place too much trust in that site. Its written by any ol moron that wants to write an entry thus its info is iffy sometimes.



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09 Feb 2007, 2:07 pm

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I don't care what Wikipedia says on it. Some people here place too much trust in that site. Its written by any ol moron that wants to write an entry thus its info is iffy sometimes.


Not believe in Wikipedia ???

That's like not believing in physics ! !!


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09 Feb 2007, 2:28 pm

Ticker wrote:
According to my doctor PDD is when a child has difficulty learning to walk and talk. My understanding was it is a comorbid condition in some people that have Aspergers or Autism just like some AS can also have ADHD and Bi-polar. PDD is not the same as autism. I don't care what Wikipedia says on it. Some people here place too much trust in that site. Its written by any ol moron that wants to write an entry thus its info is iffy sometimes.


You misunderstand! I didn't say AS and autism weren't PDD. They ARE, according to the DSM! In fact, PDD isn't comorbid, it is a major classification. I merely said that RETT is a PDD but that doesn't mean it is autism. It ISN'T AUTISM!

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09 Feb 2007, 2:44 pm

Deccajay wrote:
how the heck do you diagnose a mouse with autism?
ahhhahahaha.


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10 Feb 2007, 5:27 am

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I didn't know mice had a big problem with autism and mental retardation anyway.


LMFAO!! !! :lol:


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10 Feb 2007, 9:07 am

Also Rett's Syndrome can be fatal, Autism/Aspergers isn't and Pervasive Developmental Disorder is being phased out by many professionals and it's being slowly replaced by Autism Spectrum Disorder as being the term that encompasses all the disorders that are in the DSM-IV as being PDDs.



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10 Feb 2007, 9:22 am

Rett's syndrome involves seizures....


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10 Feb 2007, 9:22 am

MishLuvsHer2Boys wrote:
Also Rett's Syndrome can be fatal, Autism/Aspergers isn't and Pervasive Developmental Disorder is being phased out by many professionals and it's being slowly replaced by Autism Spectrum Disorder as being the term that encompasses all the disorders that are in the DSM-IV as being PDDs.


Well, they would have to find something else to put things like rett under then.

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10 Feb 2007, 9:37 am

rett's syndrome is totally different to autism, i have actually seen a kid with it who was confined to a wheelchair, who dribbled all the time abd had siezures. Just because its a ppd doesn't mean anything whatsoever, pdd does not mean AUTISTIC it means developmental delay and this can be due to autism or not due to autism. This is just like calling anglemans syndrome a form of autism as it's a pdd too.


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10 Feb 2007, 10:26 am

Rett Syndrome is degenerative in nature and, as stated, can be fatal. Girls with the syndrome experience about 18 months of normal development before falling apart.



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10 Feb 2007, 1:09 pm

pervasive developmental disorders ≠ autistic spectrum disorders

Rett's syndrome presents very different symptoms from Asperger's syndrome and autism although it does include some autistic-like symptoms. Whereas Asperger's syndrome is basically considered to be a mild form of autism, Rett's syndrome is a very different disorder. In the article, they mention the same gene that has been implicated in Rett's syndrome may also play a role in classical autism, but it's probably more complicated than that.



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10 Feb 2007, 1:29 pm

richardbenson wrote:
onefourninezero wrote:
Rett syndrome isn't an autism spectrum disorder, it's a pervasive developmental disorder.
this is what you said, wich doesnt make sence. then you tryed to finagle it in a way that makes sence. thats what you did

This diagram should clarify the matter. (It does not include every developmental disorder, and it doesn't include the autistic spectrum disorder called multiplex developmental disorder because of space considerations.)

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