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24 Jan 2014, 5:05 pm

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Autism Spectrum Disorder – Professionally Diagnosed - Level 1
Autism Spectrum Disorder – Professionally Diagnosed - Level 2
Autism Spectrum Disorder – Professionally Diagnosed - Level 3


What do the different levels mean?


Try the bottom half of this webpage-
http://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism ... c-criteria

I know many don't like the source, but I have to assume they got their info from somewhere official.


They did. That somewhere is from the DSM 5 :)


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24 Jan 2014, 5:42 pm

I would use the words "suspecting I have ASD" instead of self-diagnoses. Because the second one is banalising any kind of diagnosis if you ask me. Why go to a doctor since I can self diagnosed myself using Google.com?

You can self-diagnoses a Cold vs Flu, the worst that can happen is that you stay sick longer if you ended up not getting the right diagnosis.

What if you self-diagnose ASD and that you are so convinced that you have it that you start "acting traits?"

I donno, a brain is too complex to do these sort of things.



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24 Jan 2014, 9:00 pm

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I would use the words "suspecting I have ASD" instead of self-diagnoses. Because the second one is banalising any kind of diagnosis if you ask me...


Are you saying WrongPlanet should change its options in the profile setup?

We're talking about what's available here, on this very website, not how to express yourself in conversation.


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24 Jan 2014, 9:29 pm

If you're sure you have it, then that's sufficient to say you are self-diagnosed.

Many of the objections to self-diagnosis seem to be based on placing professionals on a very high pedestal and having some rather peculiar ideas about how people go about self diagnosis. Or it's simply a dogmatic rejection because it didn't come directly from a professional.



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24 Jan 2014, 9:35 pm

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I wish there was an option for people who were diagnosed, but suspect the diagnosis is incorrect.

Seconded.



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24 Jan 2014, 9:36 pm

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I wish there was an option for people who were diagnosed, but suspect the diagnosis is incorrect.

Seconded.


Thirded.



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25 Jan 2014, 12:34 pm

Sethno wrote:
Fogpatrol wrote:
I would use the words "suspecting I have ASD" instead of self-diagnoses. Because the second one is banalising any kind of diagnosis if you ask me...


Are you saying WrongPlanet should change its options in the profile setup?

We're talking about what's available here, on this very website, not how to express yourself in conversation.


If it comfort people to think that they can self-diagnosed themselves, more power to them. I just don't agree that is all.



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25 Jan 2014, 12:50 pm

OK, I think this is on topic so bear with me. :? I am officially diagnosed with Dyspraxia (which is a ASD), but I strongly suspect I also have Aspergers. There is a large overlap and also many cases of comorbidity so I am tempted to get a official diagnosis of Aspergers. This thread seems to indicate that with a self-diagnosis you can't be sure, but surely if a person has other officially diagnosed mental conditions then they can be sure(or much closer to being certain) that they have other mental conditions that can be easily recognised by them and others without needing another diagnosis.


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25 Jan 2014, 1:52 pm

"Suspected" is bester option than "Self-Diagnosed", in my opinion.


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25 Jan 2014, 3:25 pm

Self-diagnosed is a ridiculous term I find, you are not qualified to give a "diagnosis", even if it is to yourself. You can have "Suspected" ASD, but you have no legal or medical ability to use the term diagnosis. Self diagnosed ASD people here will flock to this thread to claim it is legitimate and "they don't need a doctor" to tell them, however I tend to trust an Autism Specialist with 30+ years experience over google on whether or not I have ASD. Not to mention how it discredits all people who are actually diagnosed, especially if you don't actually have it. This is why people roll their eyes when you say you have ASD nowadays, because they assume it's "the boy who cried wolf" because of all the self diagnosed people.



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25 Jan 2014, 3:30 pm

jcq126 wrote:
Self-diagnosed is a ridiculous term I find, you are not qualified to give a "diagnosis", even if it is to yourself. You can have "Suspected" ASD, but you have no legal or medical ability to use the term diagnosis. Self diagnosed ASD people here will flock to this thread to claim it is legitimate and "they don't need a doctor" to tell them, however I tend to trust an Autism Specialist with 30+ years experience over google on whether or not I have ASD. Not to mention how it discredits all people who are actually diagnosed, especially if you don't actually have it. This is why people roll their eyes when you say you have ASD nowadays, because they assume it's "the boy who cried wolf" because of all the self diagnosed people.

I agree. There is even people who go from specialist to specialist until they get a diagnosis, which I also think is wrong. My mom did that with me.


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25 Jan 2014, 3:40 pm

Just merge self diagnosed and not sure categories into "suspected". People who are not sure are suspecting it, that's why they are here at wp.


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25 Jan 2014, 4:28 pm

poemadayguy wrote:
OK, I think this is on topic so bear with me. :? I am officially diagnosed with Dyspraxia (which is a ASD), but I strongly suspect I also have Aspergers. There is a large overlap and also many cases of comorbidity so I am tempted to get a official diagnosis of Aspergers. This thread seems to indicate that with a self-diagnosis you can't be sure, but surely if a person has other officially diagnosed mental conditions then they can be sure(or much closer to being certain) that they have other mental conditions that can be easily recognised by them and others without needing another diagnosis.


My therapist says if a patient thinks they fall into a certain catagory (such as my suspicion I'm autistic, which he then came up with independently and continues to believe), often the patient is right.

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Just merge self diagnosed and not sure categories into "suspected". People who are not sure are suspecting it, that's why they are here at wp.


I'd suggest getting rid of the "self diagnosed" catagory, and introducing "I suspect" or "I strongly suspect". Those who want to say "not sure" should be allowed to say so.


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26 Jan 2014, 3:47 am

jcq126 wrote:
Self-diagnosed is a ridiculous term I find, you are not qualified to give a "diagnosis", even if it is to yourself. You can have "Suspected" ASD, but you have no legal or medical ability to use the term diagnosis. Self diagnosed ASD people here will flock to this thread to claim it is legitimate and "they don't need a doctor" to tell them, however I tend to trust an Autism Specialist with 30+ years experience over google on whether or not I have ASD. Not to mention how it discredits all people who are actually diagnosed, especially if you don't actually have it. This is why people roll their eyes when you say you have ASD nowadays, because they assume it's "the boy who cried wolf" because of all the self diagnosed people.


This is what people who do not understand what self-diagnosis is say about it. Like literally, it's pure ignorance.

I am debating whether it's even worth it to try to explain or just shrug and move on.



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26 Jan 2014, 3:55 am

Also, there is no "self-diagnosed" category on Wrong Planet:

A link to an image of the relevant dropdown menu

Have Asperger's - Diagnosed
Have Asperger's - Undiagnosed
Not sure if I have it or not
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26 Jan 2014, 3:58 am

It seems like people are asking for eliminating the "self-diagnosis" (actually "undiagnosed") category as a means of appeasement for people that have no real stake in needing to be able to talk about self diagnosis. But that option isn't there for you, and it really shouldn't be changed for your sensibilities, or false beliefs about what "self-diagnosis" is or is not. It's fine as is.