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LoveNotHate
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17 Feb 2014, 5:45 am

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My mother and my sister have told me from time to time that I "lack common sense". I don't really understand what they mean when they say this, and every time I ask them, they start trying to think of examples, then get distracted and the matter is dropped. Has anyone ever told you you lack common sense? What traits or behaviours were they talking about? I tried googling what "common sense" referred to, but the defiinition is too vague and imprecise to be of much use.


A true story:

Teacher: "No one can leave the classroom, because I am going to discuss an important topic".

An autistic child needs to pee. However, the child remembers what the teacher said, so the child pees in the classroom.

Teacher [shocked], "Why?"

Child: "You said we could not leave the classroom".

Teacher [lecturing]: "Obviously that does not apply to needing to use the bathroom".

The class erupts, "AH-HA, YOU LACK COMMON SENSE"!



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17 Feb 2014, 9:18 am

Yes, I have been told I lack common sense. Not sure in what way.



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17 Feb 2014, 12:48 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
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My mother and my sister have told me from time to time that I "lack common sense". I don't really understand what they mean when they say this, and every time I ask them, they start trying to think of examples, then get distracted and the matter is dropped. Has anyone ever told you you lack common sense? What traits or behaviours were they talking about? I tried googling what "common sense" referred to, but the defiinition is too vague and imprecise to be of much use.


A true story:

Teacher: "No one can leave the classroom, because I am going to discuss an important topic".

An autistic child needs to pee. However, the child remembers what the teacher said, so the child pees in the classroom.

Teacher [shocked], "Why?"

Child: "You said we could not leave the classroom".

Teacher [lecturing]: "Obviously that does not apply to needing to use the bathroom".

The class erupts, "AH-HA, YOU LACK COMMON SENSE"!



Really, he could not hold it?


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17 Feb 2014, 12:58 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
A true story:

Teacher: "No one can leave the classroom, because I am going to discuss an important topic".

An autistic child needs to pee. However, the child remembers what the teacher said, so the child pees in the classroom.

Teacher [shocked], "Why?"

Child: "You said we could not leave the classroom".

Teacher [lecturing]: "Obviously that does not apply to needing to use the bathroom".

The class erupts, "AH-HA, YOU LACK COMMON SENSE"!


That child could be me when I was a child. If the teacher said no one could leave the classroom I would assume that was for any reason, including using the bathroom. I'd still assume it now although depending on the circumstances I may break the rule.

I once had a teacher in sixth grade that didn't believe in excusing kids to the nurses office unless "you have broken bones or are bleeding". Because of that when I needed to go to the nurses office when it was time for his class I just left and walked home rather than ask to go to the nurse. (plus he was male and I didn't want to tell him the reason I needed to go to the nurse was an unexpected period, he would have wanted to know why I was going to the nurse.)



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17 Feb 2014, 1:14 pm

I would have just held it and waited until recess because by then everyone is allowed to leave the class unless the teacher tells an individual who can't.


I have a story in 6th grade. I was in music and I was on my period and then my period got real heavy so I bled through my pad and it got on my underwear and shorts and I asked my teacher if I could use the bathroom and he said no. I just hid in the corner because I was so embarrassed and uncomfortable. Then these three girls in my class took me to the office and were supportive and told me I should have just gone to the bathroom anyway. I didn't even know I could break that rule and just go to the bathroom in that situation. No one ever told me I could do that. Then as an adult I find out from reading comments online on a website about seven year old boy in Texas peeing his pants due to not having tokes to use the restroom, the parents were saying in the comments they just tell their own children to just go if they have to go bad and can't hold it and even people were saying they leave during meetings and stuff just to go because when they gotta go, they gotta go and they can't go on a bathroom schedule because they go anytime in less than an hour or less than two hours so if they go before the meeting starts, they have to go again before it ends. Some people just have bladder problems so that explained the rude behavior I always saw and why people couldn't hold it or try and go before then so they wouldn't have to go later.
But my music teacher found out about my period and felt bad and thought I should have told him but I don't think he realized how embarrassing it was to tell him about my time of the month. I was 12 and not all 12 year olds get their periods so it was embarrassing and a boy in my class found out because he must have saw the blood and he humiliated me in front of the other kids on the playground about it. Luckily other kids never gave me a hard time about it except him. But I guess that was my literal mind that made me not run out of the music room to the restrooms because the rule was no one leaves to use the bathroom unless the teacher says so and you had to ask for permission to use it.

It was a fortunate I had a strong bladder so it was never a problem for me holding it and I waited until I could use the bathroom and would ask when we can use it.


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17 Feb 2014, 2:08 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
A true story:

Teacher: "No one can leave the classroom, because I am going to discuss an important topic".

An autistic child needs to pee. However, the child remembers what the teacher said, so the child pees in the classroom.

Teacher [shocked], "Why?"

Child: "You said we could not leave the classroom".

Teacher [lecturing]: "Obviously that does not apply to needing to use the bathroom".

The class erupts, "AH-HA, YOU LACK COMMON SENSE"!

I wouldn't have done that. I would have gone to the toilet no matter what if I really had to.
I wasn't the type to follow the rules no matter what and in elementary school expecially since 3rd grade I used to break rules a lot and generally I didn't do what teachers said because I thought what they told me to do was just stupid.



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27 Feb 2014, 5:17 am

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My mother and my sister have told me from time to time that I "lack common sense". I don't really understand what they mean when they say this, and every time I ask them, they start trying to think of examples, then get distracted and the matter is dropped. Has anyone ever told you you lack common sense? What traits or behaviours were they talking about? I tried googling what "common sense" referred to, but the defiinition is too vague and imprecise to be of much use.


I was told this a lot as a kid by my family. I still have no idea what they were talking about. All I know is that it made me stark-raving mad. It seemed they used it as an excuse not to let me do things I really wanted to do, that they were trying to stifle my growth and control me. From what I can remember, I had little grasp on cause-and-effect as it related to social interactions and family life, relative to my age. In retrospect, and as a parent with a kid on the spectrum, I tend to think that maybe they had a point. Although I can't remember exactly what I did but I do remember I was always in trouble for something. I remember kept being told that no matter how many times I was told to do something I would do the exact opposite, and I could really not understand why they would hold something against me that I did the day before, a few days ago, last week (and probably many, many times before that) when clearly I didn't mean to do it, or at least didn't understand why it was such a big deal. I know that I was told that for a smart girl I kept doing stupid things. For a long time I just couldn't attach my behavior to the consequences that were imposed. I didn't understand how other people seemed to move so effortlessly through life and know how to play by rules that seemed to me to be so arbitrary. Being older now, I have a much better sense of what common sense is, simply because I have a much larger database to pull from. But lack of common sense is, for example, when I was 15 and believed my conservative religious mother would let me be in porno movies because someone else thought I could be very successful at it. Right now, as a mother, I can see how totally not OK that is, but it took me an extra 25 years to figure that out! 8O

It also took me until within the past 5 years to realize that Boy George was really gay all along, which people kept telling me but I didn't believe it because he said in interviews that he was asexual. 8O 8O



This is so me. I constantly feel frustrated about this because i dont see things the way people see them. A lot of times when in a group leaders might not be satisfied with me because things that have a consequence I think they are not big of a deal. sometimes I cant see how things work, like how to follow the social cues.. And this is so annoying.



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27 Feb 2014, 6:46 am

Here's a good example of what common sense is:

My cousin was the Dux of the school. You could hand her a book, test her on it the next day and she'd know it inside out and back to front. That's learned sense.

This smart girl also used to walk around calling everyone a "poo jabba" thinking it was just a cute name until someone pointed out to her what it actually meant. She was very embarrassed.

The point being, she was so smart when it came to learning things but she had no common sense in that she didn't think about things too deeply and/or didn't apply the knowledge she had to work things out.

This same girl needed her mother to tell her how to turn the car's steering wheel to manoeuvre out of a parking spot because she couldn't figure it out. No common sense.

Lovely girl though - heart of gold


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27 Feb 2014, 1:57 pm

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This smart girl also used to walk around calling everyone a "poo jabba" thinking it was just a cute name until someone pointed out to her what it actually meant. She was very embarrassed.


I have never heard of a poo jabba. What is that?



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27 Feb 2014, 2:10 pm

It seems like a lot of teachers at my school lack common sense. My psychology teacher had no idea how long assignments were supposed to take, so he always assigned the wrong deadlines. He would give us three days to put together a presentation, two and a half for an independent project, a few months to write a summary on a news article about psychology.

In art class my teacher tells everyone who is working with clay to clean up. This should be all he says, right? Nope, not for him. After he says that he calls everyone who is working with clay by name. What an idiot! I think the people who work with clay know who he's talking about.


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27 Feb 2014, 2:17 pm

mikassyna wrote:
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This smart girl also used to walk around calling everyone a "poo jabba" thinking it was just a cute name until someone pointed out to her what it actually meant. She was very embarrassed.


I have never heard of a poo jabba. What is that?

Jabba (jabber) as in jab - Poke roughly or quickly

Get it now?


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27 Feb 2014, 2:18 pm

ImAnAspie wrote:
Here's a good example of what common sense is:

My cousin was the Dux of the school. You could hand her a book, test her on it the next day and she'd know it inside out and back to front. That's learned sense.

This smart girl also used to walk around calling everyone a "poo jabba" thinking it was just a cute name until someone pointed out to her what it actually meant. She was very embarrassed.

The point being, she was so smart when it came to learning things but she had no common sense in that she didn't think about things too deeply and/or didn't apply the knowledge she had to work things out.

This same girl needed her mother to tell her how to turn the car's steering wheel to manoeuvre out of a parking spot because she couldn't figure it out. No common sense.

Lovely girl though - heart of gold



This reminds me. When my uncle was a kid, he heard the word twat in a car commercial. He started to call one of his sisters that and he didn't even know what that word meant. My mom didn't know what that word meant either so she asked her father was it was and he started shaking the paper because he was trying to not laugh.

I knew another girl in middle school and she was told the middle finger meant effort instead of f word so she was always flipping the bus driver off and she didn't even know what the middle finger meant. I heard another teen didn't know what it was either so she was flipping people off in school not even knowing what it was. My brother's ex girlfriend told me that story about that teen girl.

All these people were NT. Yes they can be this naive too. I also knew another girl in my school and she was my friend's little sister. A boy in her class told her to hold up her middle fingers so she did and the kid told on her and she got sent to the office. The teacher wouldn't believe the girl didn't know what the middle finger meant. She was in third grade. I don't know if she was NT or not but she had seizures and some problems.

It always shocks me that some people wouldn't know that the middle finger is because I knew it since age eight and that was because my two best friends taught it to me without telling me what it meant and my mom had to tell me. Perhaps those other people have never been told sooner.


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27 Feb 2014, 2:32 pm

I've been told this. I think it's more a matter of your brain just not being wired the same way as most people's, and so the things that seem obvious to you just might not be. I've noticed a lot of us on the spectrum really need to be told EVERYTHING. I guess that's the "wrong planet" effect right there - in this world, there are things that NTs just innately know they should or shouldn't do, so they assume EVERYONE with any sense is born with that knowledge. But we just aren't, because of the internalized nature of our minds.