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28 Feb 2014, 5:37 pm

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The primary difference between Asperger's and regular autism is that people with Asperger's are required to speak on time and have no developmental delay.


I do not understand this criterion, as autism is defined as a pervasive developmental disorder and Aspergers being autism makes it a pervasive developmental disorder, what does "no developmental delay" mean then, as a pervasive developmental disorder implies developmental delay.



I assume it means they reach all their milestones and develop normally but they show social deficits.


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28 Feb 2014, 6:35 pm

League_Girl wrote:
Eloa wrote:
Callista wrote:
The primary difference between Asperger's and regular autism is that people with Asperger's are required to speak on time and have no developmental delay.


I do not understand this criterion, as autism is defined as a pervasive developmental disorder and Aspergers being autism makes it a pervasive developmental disorder, what does "no developmental delay" mean then, as a pervasive developmental disorder implies developmental delay.



I assume it means they reach all their milestones and develop normally but they show social deficits.


Reading on infant milestones a major part seems to include early social and motor skills, observed at the early age of two month, but both primarily impaired in Aspergers as well.


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01 Mar 2014, 4:08 am

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high functioning autism isnt a diagnostic label,but high functioning autism means its someone who has autism and an IQ over 70.
this means their autism presents differently to those of us who are under the low functioning bracket-HFAs have a wider mental capacity which allows them to function better in society,allows them to understand complex meanings and language,allows them to develop better coping skills,to do most if not all things for themselves independantly as adults and will live independantly as adults unless any comorbid diagnoses are involved.


Also, comprehension issues do exist among those with IQ 70+, and independent living is not something that all HFA adults are capable of. I would hesitate to assign that to comorbids, because there's sensory sensitivities, proclivity toward shutdown and decompensation, loss of skills (temporary or permanent), autistic catatonia, emotional lability, and I am probably forgetting other factors.

It's not a simple delineation with the only problems being social skills, executive function, and lack of coping skills.

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now,as for whether have got classic autism,it sounds like had had mutism and were not non verbal because the ability was there,a lot of aspies have mutism and some use AAC programmes but theyre not non verbal autistic,mutism and non verbalism are commonly wrongly swapped for each other in the autistic community, non verbalism is lack of mental capacity to produce speech significantly past the age of when it was expected.


Selective mutism is an anxiety disorder. Shutdowns that cost speech are... well, it's not the same as being nonverbal, but it's not necessarily an anxiety thing. I have selective mutism type issues, but I also lose speech for hours or days at a time with no anxiety at all.



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01 Mar 2014, 11:41 am

Verdandi wrote:
but I also lose speech for hours or days at a time with no anxiety at all.


Self was minimally verbal for a solid month, then slowly gained more speech back...


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01 Mar 2014, 2:51 pm

Eloa wrote:
Callista wrote:
The primary difference between Asperger's and regular autism is that people with Asperger's are required to speak on time and have no developmental delay.


I do not understand this criterion, as autism is defined as a pervasive developmental disorder and Aspergers being autism makes it a pervasive developmental disorder, what does "no developmental delay" mean then, as a pervasive developmental disorder implies developmental delay.


Callista meant delay in language development specifically. As League Girl said above, there will be developmental delay in other areas beyond language development; on top of that, even those who have been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome may still have an unusual language development, dependent on any of a couple of different factors.


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01 Mar 2014, 3:30 pm

Selective mutism can also be caused by a lack of social understanding.
My understanding of "no developmental delay" in Aspergers is that it is not obvious until social demands exceed ability, even though it is present at birth.
Pervasive development disorder implies that many areas of functioning are affected, sensory, social, cognitive etc.



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01 Mar 2014, 6:27 pm

CyclopsSummers wrote:
Eloa wrote:
Callista wrote:
The primary difference between Asperger's and regular autism is that people with Asperger's are required to speak on time and have no developmental delay.


I do not understand this criterion, as autism is defined as a pervasive developmental disorder and Aspergers being autism makes it a pervasive developmental disorder, what does "no developmental delay" mean then, as a pervasive developmental disorder implies developmental delay.


Callista meant delay in language development specifically. As League Girl said above, there will be developmental delay in other areas beyond language development; on top of that, even those who have been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome may still have an unusual language development, dependent on any of a couple of different factors.


Thank you for clarifying, it was not obvious to me that specifically delay in language development was meant.


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01 Mar 2014, 6:35 pm

Most of my friends are Aspies, but I do know some high-functioning ones. :o Functioning doesn't matter too much when the situation itself is addressed. We would all rather be ourselves and not babble over something that doesn't even work right. :D


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