Autism And The Lost Plane

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I've never even watched Dexter.

Wow I must lack intelligence because the other posters here seem to have a little bit of knowledge to what you're trying to say, but I don't at all. I will have a wild guess what will probably be nowhere near the point you're trying to make.

Are you trying to say that Autistic people want to look into where the missing plane is in a different way to NTs?

Just a guess.

Joe90" wrote:

Hi Joe. Yes everything is in some way connected to everything, and our thinking about things can connect things, disconnect things and reconnect things in new ways. Why not discover new ways to say things? And also, the point can be made that all these short talking people on the planet earth are really not that much better at saying much of anything than are all the long talking people. Either one can be boring zzzzzzzzz....I think a good combination of short and long can be more vitalizing then just short. (Is this too long? Probably:-)

Joe, I find you delightful, Sorry you are experiencing all this anxiety. I have lived a life of intense anxiety to the extent of almost every day experiencing sheer terror, though most of the day I don't feel that, fortunately, but the tendency is underneath.

One of the threads I am planning to start and think about every day is actually about buses. I have been planning this thread for several years...was going to do it on another forum but that was shut down before I got a chance..

Vaguely, but as analogies go I don't find it helpful. Why don't you post specifics instead of vague analogies? And what has this got to do with Dexter's script writers and Zen Buddhism? There are so many statements in your posts I can't figure out what is important to whatever point you are making and what statements are diversions. It is as though you are using 10,000 words to express something that could be expressed in 20 words.

It is quite grizzly in places, but very absorbing. It is a strange twist to psychology that people watching it tend to have empathy for Dexter - a psychopathic serial killer who dismembers the bodies of those he kills and dumps the parts in bin bags at sea.

^^Oh right, I'll have to keep my eye out for that.^^

Aeroplanes are much safer than cars or buses or trains. That's why it is big news when a plane disappears, but if someone drives their car off a cliff it maybe goes on for a day (unless they are famous).

I guarantee you that NO ONE understands what you're saying.

And actually its kinda not socially acceptable to talk about a big tragedy like this plane thing as being "a symbol of something" in your own head ( two hundred people die- so you can get your head straight? WTF?).

On top of that - you COMPLAIN about the story being "prolonged"( forced on you against your will by CNN), but then claim that the story is symbolic of your own autistic psyche! Are you saying that the story appeals to you because you're autistic? Or are you saying that the story appeals to everyone else (because they are NT), but does NOT appeal to you because you're autistic? you're totally contradicting yourself.

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"Bus plunges" killing dozens at a time happen every two minutes. Mostly in the third world, but the USA has a fair number as well. But they dont stay on the front page for weeks (partially because the mystery factor isnt there-buses dont vanish like over sea flights can).

Joe90 wrote:

Joe, you don't lack intelligence at all. I find you very bright and witty. Actually there is not much evidence that anyone posting on this thread understands me. I just assume some people do. My immature theory of mind, possibly:-) or maybe the people who do understand do not have anything to add and are just waiting for more material to emerge. .

No. Enquiry is about discovering, so more of a process where material is gradually unfolding, but sometimes a foundation needs to laid for insight to occur.

Certain material called "interpretative" is specifically designed with the function of helping people sort things out and come to experience direct clarity (eventually:-) Other kinds of material called "definitive" simply states facts. That can be a lot quicker, but the problem is that people tend to think their own subjective interpretations is real (definitive) when actually it is relative (in relation to everything else) and then they try to lay that as a foundation and impose it upon others. The bridge between hard cold reality and subjective context is meaning. To make greater meaning that gives a real reason to live is kind of like making honey.


Asking question is a good way to find things out.

I'd much rather travel by road.

Joe90 you are stressing yourself out about this plane thing too much . YOu needn't! by the way each time theres a plane incident the security at airports become more reliable and powerful, and the chances of the plane crashing then decrease even more.

Fish have to eat too. Some people call it murder, I call it community service.

Your "foundation" is sorely lacking. Nobody has a clue what you intend to build upon your vague foundations. I suggest you give more of what you term "definitive" material rather than "interpretative" material. Do you realise that this thread is now well into its second page and still nobody knows the purpose of this thread? The purpose should be made explicit within the first post otherwise the thread just drifts off into endless tangents as you or other members keep bringing up other subjects that may or may not be directly related to the object of the thread.

What would those twenty words be? Doesn't have to be exactly twenty words but just to get an idea. I do not believe it is possible for such a comment to ring true unless you already know what I am going to say, and I don't even know, at least not 100%.. Maybe I should know, but for me it is an enquiry and I am gaining insight as I go along. Maybe you think you know basically all that needs to be known, and maybe you even do, but try to explain that to other people. Even in Zen they have this tradition of koans, and people think they understand them but according to the teacher, do not.

You don't seem to have a problem with this thread deteriorating into small talk (and it is even alright with me in this instance, as a learning experiment, so let the parade continue, but to me it is of lesser value). I put sh*t in my message to Joe about planes being more safe than other vehicles, but then edited it out. That was the least important thing. I'm sure she's already heard that kind of stuff, And the person who wrote that stuff about the bus accidents, what're you gonna do---help her to not have anxiety:-)? So the plane stuff is not even or at least not only about planes, but obviously represents something else. All of this is about a person's inner world and his relationship to reality. Sometimes it takes a bit to explain that, and yet so many people here are willing to give some psycho (therapist) their hard earned dollar, and unless they hit the jackpot, which is possible, waste their money, and yet they do not want to discover a possible new way to process data that may be more integrative and ultimately lead to inner happiness. kind of sad....

I like to draw parallels with things in my life, but I don't see how a plane accident can be compared to having autism.

I just don't get it.