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13 Apr 2007, 10:51 pm

Some view things they cannot understand, and feel it should be attacked.

Anything different is living proof that they are not the center of sole perfection.

As full of faults as they may be, they have something to try to prove they are better than.

They claim to be superior, but bully, insult, demean, and are defenders of no logic.

A small mind cannot see how small it is. Their measure of life is not how high they can rise,

but who they can tear down.

Having destroyed themselves, given the magic of life to some worthless existance,

Those who see more, discover life, and enjoy, become their prey.

They know what they did to themselves, and cannot face others who did not do the same.

They attack to justify their self induced misery, bullies are not happy people.

Most know nothing of AS, they just see someone different, and free.

Anyone who does not share their personal chains, narrow view of life,

brings up questions about their own unhappy existance.

Bullies attack out of fear, some hide behind religion or another ism, none admit their fear.

Happy, intelligent, secure people never attack a person.

There are many things more worthy of their time.

It is a small minority who feels the need to convert the world to their view by any means.

Not being able to face themselves, they demand the world change.

The vast majority see a differance, and rise to become better people.

Those who attack aspies are no different than gay bashers or black lynchers of yesterday,

They too will become part of history.

When we become known for being ourselves, the world will accept us as we are.



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13 Apr 2007, 10:53 pm

SteveK wrote:
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People at school are jealous of me because I can manipulate numbers easily. They are jealous because I know a lot about computers.

I don't want jealousy.

I want mere acceptance.

There are exactly two people in this world (who I know personally) who accept me the way that I am.


HEY, **I'M** jealous of your apparent math ability!

I am also jealous, those abilities are something to be admire for not to be hated for.



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13 Apr 2007, 11:15 pm

The general misconception is exactly why certian friends of mine, who claim to have experiance with sufferers say that I'm OK. Of course in their descriptions, they've dealth with Severe cases and people who haven't adapted on thier own.

Maybe I'm normal and confused and don't belong....


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14 Apr 2007, 1:16 am

Some people think I'm slow, because I'm heavy-set, I speak with a Cockney accent, I laugh a lot, and I'm a bit of a Punk Rocker. I don't really care what people think, anymore. I breeze through life by being myself, but being good to people at the same time, and that's all that matters. If somebody asks, or presumes such a thing about me, to keep the peace, I tell them, "I may be slow, but I have a warm heart". :)



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14 Apr 2007, 4:27 am

Many people I know have no idea what Asperger's means. When I say that it is an autism spectrum disorder or just say the word autism, no matter the context, people just say: you don't have it.
I'll ask why and they explain their typical picture of autistics:

1. no "real speech", with which they mean that a person is either non-verbal or speaks in borrowed terms (like things that are in books or on TV)
2. that they are ret*d or amazingly gifted (and I'm considered "average" by almost all people)
3. both reasons mean that they can't live on their own

I'd love it if people only knew about sensory issues or the confusing non-verbal signs that are hard to get and the different wired brains and the darn confusing world that is the result of people that say that there is no time for anything these days.
Which, I think, are the gist of autism. Everything else are just kind of add-ons, maybe you have some of these or some of that or all or neither or or or... makes life a little different.

Maybe I should make little notes like these and give them to ignorant people. If only that changed their opinion!



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14 Apr 2007, 8:35 am

Sora wrote:
Many people I know have no idea what Asperger's means. When I say that it is an autism spectrum disorder or just say the word autism, no matter the context, people just say: you don't have it.
I'll ask why and they explain their typical picture of autistics:

1. no "real speech", with which they mean that a person is either non-verbal or speaks in borrowed terms (like things that are in books or on TV)
2. that they are ret*d or amazingly gifted (and I'm considered "average" by almost all people)
3. both reasons mean that they can't live on their own

I'd love it if people only knew about sensory issues or the confusing non-verbal signs that are hard to get and the different wired brains and the darn confusing world that is the result of people that say that there is no time for anything these days.
Which, I think, are the gist of autism. Everything else are just kind of add-ons, maybe you have some of these or some of that or all or neither or or or... makes life a little different.

Maybe I should make little notes like these and give them to ignorant people. If only that changed their opinion!


YEAH, It is IRONIC! AS actually requires you DON'T have #1 and #3, and aren't ret*d! As for being amazingly gifted, etc... Some people just don't use what they have and others, like myself, don't brag, and it only starts to show when needed/prompted/etc...

BTW The two people I told about it didn't say I DIDN'T have it. One knows AS a bit better than that, and the other, my biological mother, surreptitiously asks a friend, who has a teenage boy diagnosed with AS about how her boy acts. JUST as it looks like she proved I DON'T have it, she finds that it is more proof I DO! At least she has been honest about it, and come clean. NEITHER has gone "AH HA, THAT'S IT!"! You would think my biological mother would. I am even remembering little quirks I had/have, calling her up and saying "You remember....?" She says "YEAH!", and I mention that you guys have the SAME quirks! I don't know how much it takes to convince her of anything.

Anyway, maybe you should be happy they don't think you have it, especially considering their misconceptions. Outside of maybe getting some help in some area, giving them a reason to really realize problem areas, and maybe making some friends that have AS, etc... there is probably no benefit to you. I have found most today just don't care!

BESIDES, it shouldn't matter if you have AS or don't. If a light is flashing, or a brake squealing, etc.... IT SHOULD BE FIXED! Just yesterday, I told a bus driver he should get his brakes fixed, and he said EVEN THE POLICE COMPLAINED! Yet they did NOTHING! And they can probably fix the brakes for less than $30! If they wait even a week, it could cost HUNDREDS(due to the disks getting scored), or even millions(if the brakes fail and cause a major accident and someone hears it is due to their negligence).

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15 Apr 2007, 1:54 am

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Some view things they cannot understand, and feel it should be attacked.

Anything different is living proof that they are not the center of sole perfection.

As full of faults as they may be, they have something to try to prove they are better than.

They claim to be superior, but bully, insult, demean, and are defenders of no logic.

A small mind cannot see how small it is. Their measure of life is not how high they can rise,

but who they can tear down.

Having destroyed themselves, given the magic of life to some worthless existance,

Those who see more, discover life, and enjoy, become their prey.

They know what they did to themselves, and cannot face others who did not do the same.

They attack to justify their self induced misery, bullies are not happy people.

Most know nothing of AS, they just see someone different, and free.

Anyone who does not share their personal chains, narrow view of life,

brings up questions about their own unhappy existance.

Bullies attack out of fear, some hide behind religion or another ism, none admit their fear.

Happy, intelligent, secure people never attack a person.

There are many things more worthy of their time.

It is a small minority who feels the need to convert the world to their view by any means.

Not being able to face themselves, they demand the world change.

The vast majority see a differance, and rise to become better people.

Those who attack aspies are no different than gay bashers or black lynchers of yesterday,

They too will become part of history.

When we become known for being ourselves, the world will accept us as we are.


boooooooring!



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15 Apr 2007, 2:16 am

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This isn't just a problem with AS, it is a problem with everything we are exposed to for the first time.


That's why it pertinent to ask questions and hold off judgement until the questions have been answered. As idealistic as that is. I try though.



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15 Apr 2007, 2:29 am

When I mention Autism they think savant, like Rain Man. Or that they must have some special talent.


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15 Apr 2007, 3:19 pm

most "general public" people have never heard of AS, or they think it is a made up neurological condition.



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15 Apr 2007, 3:20 pm

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People where I live would think that anyone who has AS is insane and gets angry all the time.

No offense, but some people here get that impression of you too.



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16 Apr 2007, 12:44 pm

When ever i told my friends about my AS suspisions thay were like

"Oh, that's what your are."

Like they allready knew something was off about me.....


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16 Apr 2007, 12:58 pm

SteveK wrote:
Where does the act come in? But Shakespear(or was it bacon. :cry: ) WAS right about the world being players. People usually don't show exactly how they are. I USED to, and was called a knowitall, rude, etc... SO WHAT!? I DID know what I was talking about, and said only what others were likely even thinking. OH WELL, the perils of AS!(It turns out ALL were symptoms of AS!)

Steve


I think in school that people are acting certain roles. It is pretend play writ large. At work, the salesman pretends he likes the customer, the customer service rep pretends she understands the irate customer's feelings. None of these roles are real. On a social level, people expect other people to pretend and play their roles. We expect people to accept us the way we are. There is language of psychobabble to explain it, but the didn't the Bard say "All the world is a stage."


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16 Apr 2007, 1:01 pm

Only one of my friends knows about my AS, shes the only one I trust not to judge. I don't even trust my parents not to do that.

I keep my minimal circle of friends, who for reasons they doubtless have, have chosen to put up with me over the years. To be honest they have probably picked up on something - they aren't stupid, but I shan't be divulging anything to them. I'm happier to maintain the status quo. Lifes complicated enough, as Abbey National used to tell me.

Anyway, whats wrong with watching trains? 8) I skip the anorak step though...



16 Apr 2007, 1:09 pm

People see me as a very smart lady and straightforward and honest. They also say I’m a good worker and quick learner.



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16 Apr 2007, 1:27 pm

I really don't tell people anymore that I have AS. I found people either said no you don't have it you're just shy if they knew me before. Or if I told people that really didn't know me they started treating me like a small child or speaking loudly and slowly to me.

I dislike the media portrayal of autism because its inaccurate and I think it harms people like me. They only show on tv kids who scream, throw temper tantrums and hit or throw things at people. Or they show adults who are extremely low functioning. So people seem to think autism is the same as being mentally ret*d or that if you are autistic you are going to be dangerous to be around. I think the typical AS person is neither of those stereotypes.