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15 May 2014, 10:45 am

ImAnAspie wrote:
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Interesting observations noted are:
? All respondents are female;
? Typical response along the lines of 'this again';
? Responses are typically sarcastic in nature;
? Some are so bothered by this topic, they feel the need to post more than once;

Why is this such a sore point for some females and not others?


*Pool of respondents much too small to make anything of these observations other than pure coincidence.
*"Typical" in this case is judgement based on opinion of observer.
*"Sarcastic", likewise, is judgement based on opinion of observer, as standard interviews have not been done assessing the respondents reactions and motivations for written responses.
*Motivations for second [or possible third] responses don't seem to be accounted for. The number of responses merely seem to be subsumed into the original response of each individual, which may or may not be accurately interpreted by observer.


Conclusion not accurate and not actually addressing what is occurring in this situation.
Overall impression: Poor study procedure.


Yeah, I did the standard interviews and they all agreed with me. I also polled random strangers I know and they all said that you were wrong and that I should tell you.


Well as long as what you mention here will be an addendum to the online publication you previously referred to when it is published in this year's 3rd quarter issue of The International Journal of Random Minutia, that all seems in order.

Well done, carry on, say no more, say no more.


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15 May 2014, 12:02 pm

I would say in general it is easier for women to get laid than it is for men (no matter their neurology), although it has more to do with social structures in society than anything else.

If you mostly hang around people with AS and don't really care very much abut NT's and their lives, this isn't an entirely false observation, although it is a generalization, and therefore only (possibly) accurate in a general sense.

Also in general AS women tend to be more sociable than AS men (also because of societal social structures), which might lead to AS women (especially those who remain undiagnosed, possibly for the same reasons) in general having more of a sex life than AS men in general.



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15 May 2014, 4:04 pm

SignOfLazarus wrote:
ImAnAspie wrote:
SignOfLazarus wrote:
ImAnAspie wrote:
Interesting observations noted are:
? All respondents are female;
? Typical response along the lines of 'this again';
? Responses are typically sarcastic in nature;
? Some are so bothered by this topic, they feel the need to post more than once;

Why is this such a sore point for some females and not others?


*Pool of respondents much too small to make anything of these observations other than pure coincidence.
*"Typical" in this case is judgement based on opinion of observer.
*"Sarcastic", likewise, is judgement based on opinion of observer, as standard interviews have not been done assessing the respondents reactions and motivations for written responses.
*Motivations for second [or possible third] responses don't seem to be accounted for. The number of responses merely seem to be subsumed into the original response of each individual, which may or may not be accurately interpreted by observer.


Conclusion not accurate and not actually addressing what is occurring in this situation.
Overall impression: Poor study procedure.


Yeah, I did the standard interviews and they all agreed with me. I also polled random strangers I know and they all said that you were wrong and that I should tell you.


Well as long as what you mention here will be an addendum to the online publication you previously referred to when it is published in this year's 3rd quarter issue of The International Journal of Random Minutia, that all seems in order.

Well done, carry on, say no more, say no more.


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15 May 2014, 6:10 pm

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15 May 2014, 6:36 pm

Sure there are women on the spectrum without sex lives, but it definitely seems as if it is easier for women to get laid - or rather, it is easier for straight women and gay men, because men, in general, are easier.



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15 May 2014, 6:51 pm

ImAnAspie wrote:
Interesting observations noted are:
? All respondents are female;
? Typical response along the lines of 'this again';
? Responses are typically sarcastic in nature;
? Some are so bothered by this topic, they feel the need to post more than once;

Why is this such a sore point for some females and not others?


Because we're sick of people coming out with nonsense like this that is

A. Inaccurate.
B. Usually totally dismissive of the difficulties we face.


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15 May 2014, 7:08 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
ImAnAspie wrote:
Interesting observations noted are:
? All respondents are female;
? Typical response along the lines of 'this again';
? Responses are typically sarcastic in nature;
? Some are so bothered by this topic, they feel the need to post more than once;

Why is this such a sore point for some females and not others?


Because we're sick of people coming out with nonsense like this that is

A. Inaccurate.
B. Usually totally dismissive of the difficulties we face.



I'm not going to comment here on the particulars of the accuracy or inaccuracy of the proposed theory, but in my experience sex always seemed to make everything way more difficult [and complicated]?

I'm also not entirely convinced the intention was to dismiss any difficulties encountered by females on the spectrum nor to suggest that one gender or another "has it easier".

Though, it may make sense to ask the OP for clarification in this case?


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15 May 2014, 7:46 pm

SignOfLazarus wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
ImAnAspie wrote:
Interesting observations noted are:
? All respondents are female;
? Typical response along the lines of 'this again';
? Responses are typically sarcastic in nature;
? Some are so bothered by this topic, they feel the need to post more than once;

Why is this such a sore point for some females and not others?


Because we're sick of people coming out with nonsense like this that is

A. Inaccurate.
B. Usually totally dismissive of the difficulties we face.



I'm not going to comment here on the particulars of the accuracy or inaccuracy of the proposed theory, but in my experience sex always seemed to make everything way more difficult [and complicated]?

I'm also not entirely convinced the intention was to dismiss any difficulties encountered by females on the spectrum nor to suggest that one gender or another "has it easier".

Though, it may make sense to ask the OP for clarification in this case?


oh dear, you're definitely new to this forum. :lol: i'm not trying to poke fun or anything--i'm just saying once you've been here for a while you may revisit that idea.



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15 May 2014, 8:21 pm

starvingartist wrote:
SignOfLazarus wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
ImAnAspie wrote:
Interesting observations noted are:
? All respondents are female;
? Typical response along the lines of 'this again';
? Responses are typically sarcastic in nature;
? Some are so bothered by this topic, they feel the need to post more than once;

Why is this such a sore point for some females and not others?


Because we're sick of people coming out with nonsense like this that is

A. Inaccurate.
B. Usually totally dismissive of the difficulties we face.



I'm not going to comment here on the particulars of the accuracy or inaccuracy of the proposed theory, but in my experience sex always seemed to make everything way more difficult [and complicated]?

I'm also not entirely convinced the intention was to dismiss any difficulties encountered by females on the spectrum nor to suggest that one gender or another "has it easier".

Though, it may make sense to ask the OP for clarification in this case?


oh dear, you're definitely new to this forum. :lol: i'm not trying to poke fun or anything--i'm just saying once you've been here for a while you may revisit that idea.


I do agree with you that a lot of men on this forum seem to have a hard time understanding women (which is really not that strange, concidering a lot of people on this forum have a hard time understanding a lot of things about interacting with other people, for obvious reasons), although that doesn't mean that all of them mean harm, or that they don't want to learn.

Try contributing to the topic of discussion by stating why you think they're wrong, and what would be a better way to look at it, instead of just discrediting everyone who doesn't agree with you. That might actually get people to change their minds.



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15 May 2014, 8:27 pm

snufkin wrote:
starvingartist wrote:
SignOfLazarus wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
ImAnAspie wrote:
Interesting observations noted are:
? All respondents are female;
? Typical response along the lines of 'this again';
? Responses are typically sarcastic in nature;
? Some are so bothered by this topic, they feel the need to post more than once;

Why is this such a sore point for some females and not others?


Because we're sick of people coming out with nonsense like this that is

A. Inaccurate.
B. Usually totally dismissive of the difficulties we face.



I'm not going to comment here on the particulars of the accuracy or inaccuracy of the proposed theory, but in my experience sex always seemed to make everything way more difficult [and complicated]?

I'm also not entirely convinced the intention was to dismiss any difficulties encountered by females on the spectrum nor to suggest that one gender or another "has it easier".

Though, it may make sense to ask the OP for clarification in this case?


oh dear, you're definitely new to this forum. :lol: i'm not trying to poke fun or anything--i'm just saying once you've been here for a while you may revisit that idea.


I do agree with you that a lot of men on this forum seem to have a hard time understanding women (which is really not that strange, concidering a lot of people on this forum have a hard time understanding a lot of things about interacting with other people, for obvious reasons), although that doesn't mean that all of them mean harm, or that they don't want to learn.

Try contributing to the topic of discussion by stating why you think they're wrong, and what would be a better way to look at it, instead of just discrediting everyone who doesn't agree with you. That might actually get people to change their minds.


how do you know i haven't done that in other threads? sometimes one gets tired and needs to make a joke instead, because one can only try so many times to reach people who aren't that interested in changing their opinions about women--i'm not going to apologise for that. it's not my job or responsibility to change the minds of all the ignorant/misogynistic men in the world, nor is it the job or responsibility of any other woman here.



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15 May 2014, 8:41 pm

starvingartist wrote:
snufkin wrote:
starvingartist wrote:
SignOfLazarus wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
ImAnAspie wrote:
Interesting observations noted are:
? All respondents are female;
? Typical response along the lines of 'this again';
? Responses are typically sarcastic in nature;
? Some are so bothered by this topic, they feel the need to post more than once;

Why is this such a sore point for some females and not others?


Because we're sick of people coming out with nonsense like this that is

A. Inaccurate.
B. Usually totally dismissive of the difficulties we face.



I'm not going to comment here on the particulars of the accuracy or inaccuracy of the proposed theory, but in my experience sex always seemed to make everything way more difficult [and complicated]?

I'm also not entirely convinced the intention was to dismiss any difficulties encountered by females on the spectrum nor to suggest that one gender or another "has it easier".

Though, it may make sense to ask the OP for clarification in this case?


oh dear, you're definitely new to this forum. :lol: i'm not trying to poke fun or anything--i'm just saying once you've been here for a while you may revisit that idea.


I do agree with you that a lot of men on this forum seem to have a hard time understanding women (which is really not that strange, concidering a lot of people on this forum have a hard time understanding a lot of things about interacting with other people, for obvious reasons), although that doesn't mean that all of them mean harm, or that they don't want to learn.

Try contributing to the topic of discussion by stating why you think they're wrong, and what would be a better way to look at it, instead of just discrediting everyone who doesn't agree with you. That might actually get people to change their minds.


how do you know i haven't done that in other threads? sometimes one gets tired and needs to make a joke instead, because one can only try so many times to reach people who aren't that interested in changing their opinions about women--i'm not going to apologise for that. it's not my job or responsibility to change the minds of all the ignorant/misogynistic men in the world, nor is it the job or responsibility of any other woman here.


I do see your point, but I think your "jokes" might be scaring people away from the thread, which kills the discussion, and without a discussion noone will learn anything. And also I agree with SignOfLazarus about OP's intentions. It seems like you mistook a question about women for an attack on your person, missing that it was about AS women in general, not about every single AS woman there is.

Also, it was a question, not a statement.



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15 May 2014, 8:47 pm

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oh dear, you're definitely new to this forum.


*checks join date*
Ah, so it would appear?


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:lol: i'm not trying to poke fun or anything--

?and yet, here we are, yes?

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i'm just saying once you've been here for a while you may revisit that idea.


Fair enough. Maybe I will. I may not.

Considering my first engagement in total with the OP has lead me to believe that my impression of the situation as a whole may be more accurate [for me], we may actually have betting odds at this point.


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15 May 2014, 9:06 pm

try doing a search of the site for "who has it easier/male vs female aspies" type threads, and then perhaps you'll understand why i am getting a little tired of having the same conversation over and over again and sometimes make jokes instead. it's like beating your head against a wall sometimes, and i need to break the monotony. trust me, this is not a discussion that will end on this site any time soon, certainly not because of me and my "jokes"--someone will keep posting threads about how female aspies have it easier than the guys because it's "so easy for women to get sex"--and yeah, i would put money on that.



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15 May 2014, 9:32 pm

starvingartist wrote:
try doing a search of the site for "who has it easier/male vs female aspies" type threads, and then perhaps you'll understand why i am getting a little tired of having the same conversation over and over again and sometimes make jokes instead. it's like beating your head against a wall sometimes, and i need to break the monotony. trust me, this is not a discussion that will end on this site any time soon, certainly not because of me and my "jokes"--someone will keep posting threads about how female aspies have it easier than the guys because it's "so easy for women to get sex"--and yeah, i would put money on that.


I think every discussion is worth taking seriously, and I do think that people can change their minds. Even if its just one out of a hundred, that's a win for me. Even so I can understand why you would think differently. Some people really are like brick walls. Although it might be more healthy, in some situations, to go around the wall rather than keep beating your haid against it.

Well, I guess everyone's got their own way of doing things.



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15 May 2014, 9:55 pm

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try doing a search of the site for "who has it easier/male vs female aspies" type threads, and then perhaps you'll understand why i am getting a little tired of having the same conversation over and over again and sometimes make jokes instead. it's like beating your head against a wall sometimes, and i need to break the monotony. trust me, this is not a discussion that will end on this site any time soon, certainly not because of me and my "jokes"--someone will keep posting threads about how female aspies have it easier than the guys because it's "so easy for women to get sex"--and yeah, i would put money on that.


Try living a life totally devoid of ANY warmth or affection.

My heart bleeds for you!


You wouldn't understand. ..


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15 May 2014, 10:00 pm

ImAnAspie wrote:
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try doing a search of the site for "who has it easier/male vs female aspies" type threads, and then perhaps you'll understand why i am getting a little tired of having the same conversation over and over again and sometimes make jokes instead. it's like beating your head against a wall sometimes, and i need to break the monotony. trust me, this is not a discussion that will end on this site any time soon, certainly not because of me and my "jokes"--someone will keep posting threads about how female aspies have it easier than the guys because it's "so easy for women to get sex"--and yeah, i would put money on that.


Try living a life totally devoid of ANY warmth or affection.

My heart bleeds for you!


You wouldn't understand. ..


not even conceding the point that aspie women somehow automatically get more sex then aspie men (because i don't concede that point)--sex =/= warmth and affection. also, you know nothing about my personal circumstances or what my life experiences have been, yet presume to judge how much "warmth and affection" i have experienced compared to yourself--this says volumes about you and your ability to apply your analytical functions to the reality you're observing.