A bit of a rant

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I also dislike it when aspies do this, genrally I try nit think think NT or AS is superior at all and wyile NT's at times can be frustrating and not being to understand or even care they are people as are we and we are prone to doing the same because where all human. Tgats why I like to try think the best of everybody individually an live in hope some NT's will understand andmlook passed my AS for just me, for instance I dont see NT's as well NT's are people and so are we and I like to belive they see that to.

That's why I much rather think that for reasons its good to lable to understand but not to base a person on that labels should mean nothing when coming doen to that, we are all human beings after all and im not gonna judge about or big them up due to thier neurological disorder as to us as AS NT could be seen as a disorder I mean it would benif we where a mostly AS society, this is why I treat people as people NT's in my view can be very good and understanding, personally I advocate neurological equality and hope one day as with things like civil rights and equality of race thiswill come about not only for as but every human no matter what difficults they have because thats them as an individual, remember end of the even though im guilty of saying sometimes I dont feel like it WE ARE ALL HUMAN! and that is something that I with the help of my imagnary partner had to learn to accept and understand.

I also have adhd and in the forum I belong to for that, we talk a lot about anger and having thoughts/feelings that get 'stuck'. Like being angry about something and finding it really hard to let go. It's probably a brain-wiring thing so keep that in mind. I know for me, I had to be told directly that I was carrying a lot of anger and even then it took years to figure it all out and work to train my brain otherwise. I had these loops that would get triggered and then replay until I had worn myself out.

Also keep in mind how it can feel when you feel rejected. And some aspies take rejection a lot harder. So if you're feeling rejected by the public at large then yea, it's gonna hurt and you're gonna need an outlet. But you can just as easily find forums about vegans bitterly derailing meat-eaters, the poor complaining about the rich, naked people complaining about people who wear clothes.

There's also rejection-sensitive dysphoria where sufferers respond emotionally much more quickly and much more deeply. That's something I've had to deal with. And if you have problems with executive functioning and controlling outbursts, combine that with not caring what people think and the anonymity of the internet and yea, you could be in for a ride, better buckle up.

I totally feel you though. It's hard seeing people so angry.

I found the same as the OP did on tumblr, which is why I don't go there anymore.
And also not to blogs.
I had a blog, but I stopped posting, because I was verry merry berry busy, and because I am not into personal blogging anymore.
I only come to WP now.
I wonder if those neurotypical-negative messages on tumblr are to get reblogs/likes/follows aka attention.

That is the best line of the post. ASD is a explanation not an excuse.



Agree with the above especially with the part I bolded

Wait.. wut?

There are communities on Tumblr & people communicate with each other there?

Interesting. I've never bothered to click around Tumblr beyond porn that's relevant to my interests and didn't realize there were "communities," on there.

Yeah, like: http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/actuallyau ... everything
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/asd/everything
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/aspergers/everything

Now you can see for yourself how autistic people on tumblr are doing things just as bad or worse by complaining about NTs as the things the NTs did that prompted the complaints.

Also, the tags don't really reflect a community where everyone has the same goals and ideals, but a tag where people talk about being autistic. It's not something where everything someone does is for the education and benefit of neurotypicals (and expecting that everything should be is not a benign belief nor is it reasonable to expect everything an autistic person does to contribute to that education and nary a negative word about NTs.

And the generalized posts about neurotypicals (although I can't find very many) appear to apply a valid rhetorical concept known as metonymy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metonymy

The OP's use of autistic communities on tumblr is not a very helpful use of metonymy, as it fails to actually encapsulate what is posted in these tags.

Anyway stuff that does get complained about is the way the media and the public take murdered autistic children and turn their killers (parents typically) into martyrs and saints because they "lacked support" (this is typically false) and other excuses to make it seem like such an act is exclusable and understandable. So, if I wanted to unfairly generalize the OP's argument (although it's not a huge generalization because this is a relevant topic in those tags) I'd say she's putting "I am angry at NTs and saying a few mean words about them" on the same level as parents killing their autistic children.

But it's more like she's putting autistic people being angry or frustrated at NTs on the same level as being harassed, bullied, denied resources, denied accommodations. Basically, she's saying that stuff that causes material challenges for autistic people is exactly the same as something that doesn't cause material challenges for anyone (venting about NTs).

Plus she's generalizing the activity in those tags to all be anti-neurotypical hate-filled screeds, which is precisely what she's complaining about autistic people doing in those tags, and thus "just as bad" by her own logic.

Also, yes, there are also aspie elitist posts in those tags, and stuff in general that is not really all that great to come across. Like being autistic doesn't make anyone immune to saying or doing horrible things. WP itself is a fine testament to that.

Last edited by Verdandi on 18 May 2014, 4:12 am, edited 1 time in total.

Also, goldfish, sorry about my response turning into what it did.

Mostly, hey, there's links to the tags and people can see what's said in them for themselves.

Clicked the links, didn't see anything too offensive - but I guess you have to be logged in to see all of the content. Can't really be bothered to go scope it out to be honest, as it's simply not something I'm really interested in at all. Tumblr is for porn, I don't want to ruin that by spending time reading stuff one there just to see if I find something obnoxious or offensive.

Haha.

Seriously, though, I don't think there's anything you can only see while logged in. Tumblr's not very well designed for keeping stuff private.

Some ASD people think they are superior to Nts. All Nts think they are superior to ASD people. Simple?

I don't think that's true.

I think there are a lot of NT's who feel inferior to ASD people with specific strengths, i.e. memory, mathematical abilities, engineering/problem solving or expertise in a chosen field and so on.

I don't find your post offensive at all, it is true some on the spectrum do seem to have a superiority complex...and like you say instead of just talking about hurtful things neurotypicals have done or do, or criticizing problems in society that contribute to mistreatment or stigma towards autistic people they take it to the next level and bash NTs in general just for having typical brain neurology...those attitudes do bother me and it is just as bad as neurotypicals negatively stereotyping everyone on the spectrum or looking down on us as some lower form of human. As they say two wrongs don't make a right.

There are some posts like that on this site, but sounds like the site you where on had a higher concentration of that particular sub-group...but I certainly don't get the impression the majority here have that attitude.

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Wait, what? Tumblr has porn? And here I was thinking all social media was useless...
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