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03 Jun 2014, 3:52 pm

I put no value in IQ scores. A guy I know well supposedly has an IQ of 140 and he really isn't smart at all. There're often discrepancies between the IQ and the actual, real intelligence people seem to have. Sometimes the actual intelligence seems higher but often it seems far lower, probably because people with high IQ scores are more likely to brag about it, or because people use a white lie about IQ to feel better about themselves or because they're in the hopes that people buy that storie so that they get the reputation of being really smart.

Of course I don't claim to be the arbiter of intelligence (ahem...) but sometimes people really prove to be not so smart as they say or smarter than their IQ score would suggest. Thus far I saw little consistency in that aspect so I disregard IQ scores almost completely.


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03 Jun 2014, 4:39 pm

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Cube design = 5 (wow)
Verbal abilities = 12
Matrix reasoning = 15
Pictures & similarities = 6
Quickness: 80
Working memory: 94
Perceptual functiom: 92


There's your answer - skill scatter. Your Matrix reasoning score is what would be expected from someone with an IQ of about 125, while your Cube design score was more typical of someone with an IQ of 75 (borderline cognitive disability).

So, in areas that tap similar skills to the Matrix reasoning test, you'll function like a person with an IQ of 125 (high average), while in areas tapping the same skills as Cube Design, you'll function more like someone who is on the border of mental retardation. The averaged-out score of 87 means very little in your case because you have such dramatic skill scatter. (Most NTs get very similar scores in each subtest, which makes their total IQ a lot more meaningful.)


@Quantum ^^^^^^

oh btw, Richard Fenyman's IQ as tested was 125.....his life achievements speak for themselves



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04 Jun 2014, 1:56 pm

YourMajesty wrote:
I put no value in IQ scores. A guy I know well supposedly has an IQ of 140 and he really isn't smart at all. There're often discrepancies between the IQ and the actual, real intelligence people seem to have. Sometimes the actual intelligence seems higher but often it seems far lower, probably because people with high IQ scores are more likely to brag about it, or because people use a white lie about IQ to feel better about themselves or because they're in the hopes that people buy that storie so that they get the reputation of being really smart.

Of course I don't claim to be the arbiter of intelligence (ahem...) but sometimes people really prove to be not so smart as they say or smarter than their IQ score would suggest. Thus far I saw little consistency in that aspect so I disregard IQ scores almost completely.


Doesn't that depend on your definition of smart?



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04 Jun 2014, 2:03 pm

Cafeaulait wrote:
YourMajesty wrote:
I put no value in IQ scores. A guy I know well supposedly has an IQ of 140 and he really isn't smart at all. There're often discrepancies between the IQ and the actual, real intelligence people seem to have. Sometimes the actual intelligence seems higher but often it seems far lower, probably because people with high IQ scores are more likely to brag about it, or because people use a white lie about IQ to feel better about themselves or because they're in the hopes that people buy that storie so that they get the reputation of being really smart.

Of course I don't claim to be the arbiter of intelligence (ahem...) but sometimes people really prove to be not so smart as they say or smarter than their IQ score would suggest. Thus far I saw little consistency in that aspect so I disregard IQ scores almost completely.


Doesn't that depend on your definition of smart?

Partially. What if someone did something that can objectively be seen as ... -lack of better wording- ''stupid''? It doesn't actually make someone stupid per se, but it makes it hard to defend the 140 IQ, among a lot of other things that really indicate he isn't so gifted at all. And well, as I said, I'm not the arbiter of intelligence so I do take myself with a grain of salt and advice others to do so, too :) (at least, regarding this subject)


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04 Jun 2014, 5:12 pm

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Partially. What if someone did something that can objectively be seen as ... -lack of better wording- ''stupid''?


What do you mean?

Do you mean an example of bad planning, such as taking a stupid risk or doing something inefficiently? Because planning/thinking before acting are executive functions, and executive functions are only weakly correlated with IQ.



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04 Jun 2014, 5:31 pm

You just have a few pretty unimportant weak areas. I could tell from your post alone that score did not make sense. Your not the first I have met here with misleading IQ scores, so it may be common on the spectrum.



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04 Jun 2014, 6:39 pm

Ettina wrote:
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Partially. What if someone did something that can objectively be seen as ... -lack of better wording- ''stupid''?


What do you mean?

Do you mean an example of bad planning, such as taking a stupid risk or doing something inefficiently? Because planning/thinking before acting are executive functions, and executive functions are only weakly correlated with IQ.

No, with lack of insight and logical understanding.


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