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19 Jun 2014, 1:01 pm

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No problem dudette, put on a not-encumbering skirt made of the fabric you are comfortable with and you don't need to wear underwear anymore. You just need something to cover the nipples which is self-retaining otherwise you'd draw unwanted attention from sex driven dudes. Don't blame the dudes for your choices, cuz they ain't mindreaders.

As a skirt wearing dude, I know about the freedom that comes from it. :D I live in a country without sexual hysteria. That helps a lot. 8)


You don't have to wear a skirt to not wear underwear. I only wear pants and I never wear them. The only times I'd ever wear underwear is if I was bleeding ( no longer an issue), wearing a short skirt (I don't wear skirts any more), or if I was at a store trying on pants (for hygienic reasons).

Sexual harassment isn't ok no matter what a person is wearing but whether or not they need something to cover the nipples depends on what kind of shirts they like to wear. I'm wearing a t-shirt with no bra and mine aren't noticeable. I only wear a bra when I go out to reduce jiggle and sag. I don't even always bother, especially if my shirt is loose. I'd get a binder but those seem like they might be uncomfortable. Sports bras might not be as bad as regular bras. It might not work if you are too big but maybe a tight stretchy tank top or undershirt might give light but comfortable support?



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19 Jun 2014, 1:02 pm

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It´s very unhealthy to do for a longer period, - stopping periods.


given that self-harm is the end result of the status quo, perhaps it merits consideration



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19 Jun 2014, 1:34 pm

can relate a lot steel maiden,with both having severe sensory issues with underwear and hatred of tits.
am prescribed nappies for incontinence so these help with monthlies as well-dont wear any underwear apart from three or more sports bras at a time,have never been able to wear normal bras.
have also been to the doctors about getting them removed,it has been a lifelong hell for self as they have always felt like an alien part of body; as if shoud never have been born with them, was diagnosed with body dysmorphic disorder which completely disagree with;do not relate to that one bit,had discovered what am actualy experiencing is trans genderism /gender dysphoria but due to both severe autism and ID having a massive impact on gender understanding have never recognised it in self till now.

perhaps are also TG or BDD steelmaiden?


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21 Jun 2014, 7:45 am

Thanks all.

I think I have some degree of BDD as I often hate my body and can't look at it in the shower. I don't care about my weight (I'm not overweight, BMI 24.1, although my dad says I'm "too fat" but I don't care, I'm on antipsychotics, what do you expect....) but I hate my womanly shape and my breasts. I don't know if it is related to my OCD.

As for transgender, I've always wanted to be male, ever since I was little. My (often drunk and abusive) mum used to call me by the male version of my name and poke my curvy bits which rubbed it in more.

I can't have anything in my vagina due to sensory issues, yes. If anyone were to invade it, they'd be in A&E after I dealt wiith them. I can't even cope with being hugged or shaking hands.

I'm going to be supported by the National Autistic Society soon so I will ask them to help me negotiate getting contraceptive medication from my GP. My GP is not very understanding but due to paranoia she is the only GP I can go to (I've known her for 14 years).

I'm going to try the sports bras today.

I'm not wearing knickers atm but I think my dreaded period is coming (I'm actually getting panic attacks about this) so I need to be prepared when I go out.

I might give boxer shorts another try.


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21 Jun 2014, 12:36 pm

have you considered a binder if you're uncomfortable with your breasts? i dunno, they might cause sensory overload, though, since they're pretty tight, but it's something to think about. underworks is supposedly the best brand and the most comfortable, but you can get cheaper off-brand ones on amazon.
do you think maybe cloth pads might be a better option? you can get them in soft materials like flannel and cotton instead of the crinkly gross plastic disposable ones, that could help.



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22 Jun 2014, 12:20 am

I know a certain female Aspie who pretty much stopped wearing underwear after menopause. :lol: She doesn't care if she's "supposed to;" she'd rather be comfortable. (I'm the total opposite; I wear underpants every single second that I'm not in the shower or in a bathing suit, and the only reason I don't sleep in bras is because they wear out faster if I do.)

I think it's a proprioception thing. She has bad proprioceptive defensiveness. She prefers loose clothes that she can't feel much or at all, and things like weighted blankets aren't the least bit relaxing to her. She hates having weight on her. (On the other hand, I'm more of a proprioceptive seeker, although I do have some defensiveness. I like tight clothes and being as covered up as possible. I wish I could wear form-fitting long-sleeved shirts and tights all year, but I'd roast...)

As for periods, I'd have had a hysterectomy by now if not for the possible complications! The only thing I can recommend (other than tampons, which you said you couldn't use) is occupational therapy. Have you ever had sensory integration therapy? It might be possible to regulate/calm your senses enough that you could handle your period better and maybe even handle tampons or a menstrual cup. Is the problem with insertion only sensory or is there some trauma there as well? (You don't have to answer that, of course! Just something to think about.)

Also, are you short or thin? My periods instantly became more manageable when I started using Always Slender pads. They're narrower than regular pads and infinitely more comfortable for a tiny little thing like me. They also stay put better since they aren't awkwardly squooshed between my tiny thighs. There's just not enough room there for a regular pad.


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22 Jun 2014, 10:05 am

I cannot stand weighted blankets at all.

A binder wouldn't work for me as I need light clothes on me. As a kid I used to cut my school tights off with scissors because I would be screaming all day otherwise.

I have had bad experiences which I'd rather not go into, but they play a part in my repulsion at the thought of penetration in any form.

I'll have a look on Amazon at the brands you suggest.

I'm short but I'm a size 12 UK (which I guess is near average). However I have a naturally small build (weight gain due to antipsychotics - I used to be really slim and fit). So I will try the slender pads.

I have seriously heavy periods due to haemophilia. I take the maximum dose of the meds I take for the bleeding and it does f*** all. I use 14 night pads a day - yes, the ultra absorbent ones! And I am housebound for 3-4 days because of that. So I'm going to ask my haematologist if he can tell my GP that it's best if I go on the contraceptive. Also I'll ask the NAS to advocate for me too.

Sensory integration therapy sounds helpful. I'll ask the NAS.


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22 Jun 2014, 6:28 pm

Yep, sounds like you've got some serious problems with proprioceptive defensiveness. Here's a really good explanation of it: http://spdlife.org/aboutspd/senses/proprioception.html
That site has excellent explanations about all kinds of sensory processing issues. I wish more people knew about occupational/sensory integration therapy. I think all autistic people could benefit from it, but for the more severe cases like us, it could literally be a life-saver.

I did a quick check for you, and it looks like Always Slender cost a fortune on Amazon UK. I guess they're only sold in America. I did find something called Lil-Lets Teen. Any kind of pad especially for teens should be much more comfortable for women of any age with small builds.

You might want to get your thyroid checked. Heavy periods can be a symptom of hypothyroidism, although they probably wouldn't be your only symptom. Here's another link: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-cond ... n-20021179


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23 Jun 2014, 12:39 am

Jensen wrote:
It´s very unhealthy to do for a longer period, - stopping periods.

Yes, it can increase the risk of osteoporosis. As much as I hate having a period once a month the alternative seems worse.

To the OP: Sorry you hate underwear and wearing sanitary products.

As for period pain all I can recommend is a muscle relaxant.

Personally, I don't have a problem with underwear. Sometimes bras can be uncomfortable but we do wear them for a reason, and not just to cover up.

I can understand it being a sensory issue though. It feels awful when I wear long sleeved shirts.


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23 Jun 2014, 2:34 am

Lilets Teen sounds good, I'll have a look.

I've had a thyroid blood test (among other blood tests) and it was normal. My haematologist said, however, that my son Willebrand antigen was 20 (forgot units) when I believe the average is 100? He did mention desmopressin which works for me, but while taking it one can only drink maximum a pint of fluids a day, which is impossible for me due to olanzapine-induced dry mouth (I cannot chew chewing gum or sugar free mints due to sensory issues so no ability to quickly increase salivary flow).

Thanks for the link.

Tbh I sometimes wish I could walk about naked all day. I hate clothes.

My dad keeps telling me to dress feminine - if only he could step into my world for a day and he'd see how unbearable even slightly tight clothes can be. My mum used to force me to wear fashionable clothes when I was younger and I remember screaming until it hurt my throat, due to the agony of tight clothes, only to end up being hit across the head so hard that I fell down.

Baggy clothes that are two sizes too large are what I live in and nobody can change that. They just need to accept it.


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