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07 Jul 2014, 1:59 am

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They walk around in a bit of a stupor, not really having much idea what they're doing or where they're going, and they can be very cruel.

Downright cruel.


I've walked around in a stupor not having an idea of what I m doing all most of my life. With me it was because I was aspie and did not know it. Being diagnosed has only made me realize to what extent I have and to some extent still do, do it. Yes NT's do that also, this economy has screwed up so many plans and dreams for everyone.

If you think aspies can not be cruel you not read a "gender war" thread here.

Feeling sorry like all things should be doled out on a person by person basis and be based on reasoned analysis.


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07 Jul 2014, 3:15 am

No I don't fell sorry for them because there are some NTs that have better and some that have it worse just like us



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07 Jul 2014, 5:08 am

NT's might say that we aspies are self absorbed obsessive rigid inflexible arrogant and incapable of true imaginative thought.


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07 Jul 2014, 8:07 am

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No way. I don't feel sorry for NTs. They're no worse off than I am. Why should I feel sorry for them?

Because they are the ones who actually seem to be disabled.

Many of them are intellectually challanged. They don't really understand how anything around them works, including other peoples feelings, they follow a group mentality and are unable to question and think for themselves (they just believe everything that society and the group tells them). They need constant hand holding and emotional support and can't cope if alone for more than a few minutes.

Sounds like a disability to me.

I personally don't understand why they are seen as so competent when they can't do anything without that all important emotional support form their social groups. Are they all idiots then that can't cope if left on their own for a few minutes? Why can't they do anything without the group supporting them? Are they really that pathetic? And I don't mean because they need help with something because they have good reason to (such having a missing limb or a neurological difference that makes it hard for them to complete a task) but because they are just so emotionally weak they need their hand holding like a little chlid all the time.

PN i dont care if my attitude is offensive, these so called good people have never (in my whole life anywhere) shown me any empathy or compassion. They are, and have been, downright abusive. I have yet to find an NT with anything near to what I would call intelligence, empathy or understanding. They are (and they really are) delusional. Sucked into their limited, narrow and often uneducated belief systems. We are far from an enlightened society and always will be as long as they are in charge of things. God help the future of humanity.

Why should I think of them as nice after the way their society has treated me? Especially when I have always tried my best to be a decent person and have never harmed anyone. In fact I have done less harm than them in my life and yet I am treated worse than a criminal would be.

Their behaviour is disgusting to me.

So absorbed in their own egos that they convince themselves they can do things thing can't do or that they are things they are not (such as empathic) just so they can crawl up their own arse and feel good about themselves.

Just becuase they are the majority and are considered to be normal because of that does not mean they are better or superior...why is it assumed that normal is always better?

They are less capable of empathy and understanding than I, ergo I consider them to be the disabled ones.



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07 Jul 2014, 8:27 am

Group dynamics there are more of them so they define what's normal. Its just human nature. Also you dont sound especially understanding or empathetic.


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07 Jul 2014, 8:29 am

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No, I don't feel sorry for the so-called NT's. After all, it's me who always has difficulties in interaction, not them. I used to think I was more intelligent than average when I was young, because I succeeded at school and was a rational thinker and liked to question everything. I thought most of other people were just plain stupid and ignorant, but then I realized it was me who had problems with even simple everyday tasks and needed extra help, not them. I haven't been able to create a normally functional life, while most of who I used to consider stupid are succeeding in their careers and family life. Also, I don't think they have a responsibility to understand my behaviour and way of thinking or experiencing, and I don't think they have failed if they don't understand me. Well, perhaps it's not my fault either, I'm just different. Such is life.


They succeed more because they are given more chances in this world. It is designed for them. They are given opportunties that less social beings are not allowed.



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07 Jul 2014, 8:33 am

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Group dynamics there are more of them so they define what's normal. Its just human nature. Also you dont sound especially understanding or empathetic.


Not towards them after the way they have treated me and the abuse they have thrown my way, no I am not empathic towards them. Not at all.

Others who are kinder decent human beings I have great empathy, understanding, respect and kindness for. Animals I have great kindness, respect and understanding for. I have, and always will, go out of my way to help those people, to stand up for them and to fight for them in this world. Those NT creatures who abused me because I was different from them..they disgust me.

Dont ever judge me or expect me to show kindness to such revolting excuses for human life. How can anyone expect me to have empathy for them when they have abused me for no good reason when all ever tried to do was be a kind person to them! Do me a favour and don't even go there.

They don't need my empathy, they have more than enough from their social support networks.

It marvels me how anyone, after years of abuse by them, expects me to have empathy for them. They are worse than animals.

I have been violently attacked by them, raped by them, humiliated by them, had my child taken by them, and have been gossiped about to the point that the false lies they told about me caused me to lose friendships I had made and so on:

ie and this is not the only example, I once befriended a young girl at school. she was being bullied by the other students, her parents had just died in a car crash and she was always standing alone. At that time I was friends with the bullies but would not join in with them when they bullied her. I felt for the girl, she seemed so lonely so I went up to her, talked to her and started hanging out with her at breaktime, after which the bullies refused to stay friendly with me. I was now on their hit list. All the same I maintained my friendship with the lassie until someone told her that I had said something nasty which I had never said at all. She not only turned against me but also hit me in front of everyone for it. I never did a damned thing, I never said what they claimed I did.

I have been abused also because of my academic ability, I was bullied myself most of the way through school. I was always more than willing to help others and to share anything I could do with them in the sense of teaching them how to do it to..I wanted to help people not hurt them.

I spent years caring for my disabled mother when none of my family members would help. When I fell ill with CFS type symptoms that left me housbound and bedridden not one soul was there for.

And this was before I had my bad attitude towards them.

They are not good people, they may be normal but I fear for the future of humanity with them at the helm.

The world in the future is going to be such an awful place I am glad I am not immortal.



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07 Jul 2014, 8:47 am

They really are not good people...im sorry but they are not.

Seriously.



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07 Jul 2014, 8:57 am

bumble wrote:
They really are not good people...im sorry but they are not.

Seriously.


when you refer to NT's precisely whom are you referring to?


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07 Jul 2014, 9:01 am

That's quite enough generalising and denigration of a large and welcome proportion of WP's members, thanks.


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