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31 Aug 2014, 4:53 pm

Thats interesting, I wonder if you can see the clues in my brith chart too:
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I can't check it myself because I don't understand the articles. My knowledge is limited to common western astrology.

I know that:
- Almost all planets are stuffed near my birth sign (Sagittarius).
- I got Pluto on Scorpio (Pluto is "guardian planet" of Scorpio in western astrology)
- Moon in Cancer (Moon is "guardian planet" of Cancer)
- Mars in Aries (again, "guardian planet")
- Saturn is in Capricorn (again)
- Jupiter (guardian of Sagittarius) is in opposition to its sign.

According to western astrology it means I function in extremes. All my characteristic traits are painfully exaggerated (being evil as Scorpio, loyal as Cancer, brave as Aries, rule bound as Capricorn). And "weak" Jupiter makes it hard for me to use Sagittarius traits (being good leader) despite the fact I have natural talent to it due to being born as Sagittarius. It sounds about right.



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31 Aug 2014, 4:56 pm

It's not like I hate astrology, On fact. I find it quit fascinating. It's just I am getting tired of being told that I am to become this great indigo child of the universe because of my autism. I mean seriously, what is an indigo child? I just don't get it.



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31 Aug 2014, 10:11 pm

Sometimes I read about astrology, I find it to be an amusing fiction. I don't beleive Star Trek is real either but that doesn't stop me from watching it.

As for astrology being a science, it's been practiced for thousands of years, which means it's based on the Ptolemaic system of cosmology in which the planets revolve around the Earth and the constellations are fixed onto the celestial sphere. I wouldn't trust any predictions that are based on how the planets go 'round the Earth.

Because space isn't flat the stars in a constellation may be further away from each other than they appear. In a sense constellations don't really exist, they're an illusion. Furthermore, since astrology has been practiced for thousands of years (probably by self declared Babylonian priests who wanted to get out work), the Earth's axis has shifted since then, so your sign of the Zodiac is off by about two months, as are all other astrological calculations.

Some of those Zodiac personality profiles can be amusing, I notice two things about them. They always say you can at times be outgoing and at times be withdrawn (nearly everyone, the fat part of the bell curve) and the rest of the description consists mainly of compliments e.g. you have esquisite taste, you have an indomitable will... it's pretty easy for people to believe compliments about themselves :lol:

Also, a note to all you new age mystics, stop saying we're in the age of aquarius about to enter it. That's not due for another six hundred years :roll:


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31 Aug 2014, 10:18 pm

LupaLuna wrote:
It's not like I hate astrology, On fact. I find it quit fascinating. It's just I am getting tired of being told that I am to become this great indigo child of the universe because of my autism. I mean seriously, what is an indigo child? I just don't get it.


Interestingly, because of my being a girl who was bald until I was around four, and had a supposedly large forehead, my mother's side of the family thought I was supposed to be some kind of genius...

I wouldn't mind being a periwinkle child.



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01 Sep 2014, 10:59 am

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How about y'all leave her alone and if you don't like astrology, then don't post on this thread. Geez... It doesn't matter if you think it's real or not. It's just plain rude to sh** on someone's interests like this. Believe me, there's soooooo many other people in the world who have open scorn for astrology. If someone can endure that and still have interest/find value in it, you don't need to insert your opinion in. Seriously. If you don't like it, and it's not hurting anyone, just leave it alone.

in astrology we believe not every person is destined to understand astrology

its like people with heavily afflicted moon, sun and retrograde planets would not get into spiritual things
jupiter badly placed would keep tthat person away from spriitual stuff

and most importantly they wont get any spiritual guidance.

in my chart i have bad childhood, bad parents, harassment by peers, mood disorders but i will get spiritual guidance
its because most of the planets are in 9th house and its house of getting higher help

so whatever help im getting is from astrology and tarot.

i do not scoff people who hate it.........i know they arent meant to interpret or understand it.


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01 Sep 2014, 11:07 am

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So if astrology is so scientific, what's the science behind inanimate objects millions of miles away from earth having an influence on human personality traits? Why would the moon's relative position to Uranus decide whether somebody has Asperger's? As opposed to, y'know, things a little bit closer to home, like genes and the environment/culture we grow up in.


we all know tides in the sea is caused by moon.
its simple calculation and high tides are predicted by moons distance away from earth.

similarly all the other planets have a influence on us.
the family we are born into is choosen by us before birth

we can similar patterns in horoscope of people of same family.

Jupiter and venus in same house causes diabetes
and this combination can be seen in people of same family

In my family there is a curse running and it causes mental illness
this curse is seen in all female members chart
moon and south node affliction
its there in my chart also.
but due to good placement of jupiter i have learned astrology
and i know about this curse and which prayers to use to mitigate this curse.


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01 Sep 2014, 11:11 am

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The science is plucked from Uranus. :wink:

why dont you learn basic astrology and then say this comment

when galileo said that earth is round he was sentenced to death
the church, the king and community condemned him

its only after he discovered telescope and showed people the round planets
they started believing him

you need to learn it to believe in it.


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01 Sep 2014, 11:15 am

Kiriae wrote:
Thats interesting, I wonder if you can see the clues in my brith chart too:
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I can't check it myself because I don't understand the articles. My knowledge is limited to common western astrology.

I know that:
- Almost all planets are stuffed near my birth sign (Sagittarius).
- I got Pluto on Scorpio (Pluto is "guardian planet" of Scorpio in western astrology)
- Moon in Cancer (Moon is "guardian planet" of Cancer)
- Mars in Aries (again, "guardian planet")
- Saturn is in Capricorn (again)
- Jupiter (guardian of Sagittarius) is in opposition to its sign.

According to western astrology it means I function in extremes. All my characteristic traits are painfully exaggerated (being evil as Scorpio, loyal as Cancer, brave as Aries, rule bound as Capricorn). And "weak" Jupiter makes it hard for me to use Sagittarius traits (being good leader) despite the fact I have natural talent to it due to being born as Sagittarius. It sounds about right.

i dont know western astrology i have learned vedic astrology its different i can read your chart if you give me your birth time, place and date. ok but your chart is quiet similar to mine

even i have saggitarius ascendant and pisces moon. thats the reason we believe in astrology. we have too much of jupiter influence


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01 Sep 2014, 11:22 am

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It's not like I hate astrology, On fact. I find it quit fascinating. It's just I am getting tired of being told that I am to become this great indigo child of the universe because of my autism. I mean seriously, what is an indigo child? I just don't get it.

a lot of children born during 70's are afflicted by aquarius moon

moon in aquarious sign which leads to restrictive behaviour
this traits are characterised under indigo children.

i skipped the aquarius moon i got pisces moon instead
but uranus is there with my moon.

uranus is all about revolution, bursting forth and changing old unwanted trends
i am more of indigo warrior type
im here to fight it out.....to change the unwanted old system
just like Julian Assange would do....not afraid of repercussion
just to bring out to public the culprits

i have fought bravely where others would chicken out...
i have spoken against bureaucracy and changed systems
its not that i like doing all this but it just keeps on happening.

we are here for a purpose and we would look different to world.


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01 Sep 2014, 11:27 am

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Sometimes I read about astrology, I find it to be an amusing fiction. I don't beleive Star Trek is real either but that doesn't stop me from watching it.

As for astrology being a science, it's been practiced for thousands of years, which means it's based on the Ptolemaic system of cosmology in which the planets revolve around the Earth and the constellations are fixed onto the celestial sphere. I wouldn't trust any predictions that are based on how the planets go 'round the Earth.

Because space isn't flat the stars in a constellation may be further away from each other than they appear. In a sense constellations don't really exist, they're an illusion. Furthermore, since astrology has been practiced for thousands of years (probably by self declared Babylonian priests who wanted to get out work), the Earth's axis has shifted since then, so your sign of the Zodiac is off by about two months, as are all other astrological calculations.

Some of those Zodiac personality profiles can be amusing, I notice two things about them. They always say you can at times be outgoing and at times be withdrawn (nearly everyone, the fat part of the bell curve) and the rest of the description consists mainly of compliments e.g. you have esquisite taste, you have an indomitable will... it's pretty easy for people to believe compliments about themselves :lol:

Also, a note to all you new age mystics, stop saying we're in the age of aquarius about to enter it. That's not due for another six hundred years :roll:

you read astrology its a indication of a jupiter moon, or a south node dasha period or jupiter dasha without which you wont venture into studying celestial subjects
i was not into astrology and stuff....its only when my south node dasha period started that i seriously and subconsciously entered into it.
we dont decide or choose it just happens


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01 Sep 2014, 12:36 pm

Kiriae wrote:
Thats interesting, I wonder if you can see the clues in my brith chart too:
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I can't check it myself because I don't understand the articles. My knowledge is limited to common western astrology.

I know that:
- Almost all planets are stuffed near my birth sign (Sagittarius).
- I got Pluto on Scorpio (Pluto is "guardian planet" of Scorpio in western astrology)
- Moon in Cancer (Moon is "guardian planet" of Cancer)
- Mars in Aries (again, "guardian planet")
- Saturn is in Capricorn (again)
- Jupiter (guardian of Sagittarius) is in opposition to its sign.

According to western astrology it means I function in extremes. All my characteristic traits are painfully exaggerated (being evil as Scorpio, loyal as Cancer, brave as Aries, rule bound as Capricorn). And "weak" Jupiter makes it hard for me to use Sagittarius traits (being good leader) despite the fact I have natural talent to it due to being born as Sagittarius. It sounds about right.


Forgive me for terrible formatting:

Sun, Mercury, and VIII house in Leo (18.01,15.42, and 18.43)
Chiron in Virgo (12.08)
Moon, Venus, and IX house in Libra (3.47, 3.26, and .46)
Jupiter, Pluto, Midheaven, North Node, Juno, and XI house in Scorpio (7.02, 25.19, 2.49, 19.21, 26.16 and 26.44)
XII house in Sagittarius (16.54)
Ascendant, Uranus, and Neptune in Capricorn (7.08, 23.24 R, 21.16 R)
II house in Aquarius (18.43)
Saturn in Pisces (10.36 R)
III house in Aries (0.46)
IV house, V house, South Node, Lilith, and Pallas in Taurus (2.49, 26.44, 19.21, 13.56, 17.51)
VI house, Mars, and Vesta in Gemini (16.54, 26.07, 23.42)
VII house and Ceres in Cancer (7.08, 14.15).

So, my chart is incredibly unbalanced. I'm a Solar Fire sign and only have that and Mercury as planets in all of the fire signs.

I have a lot of Earth bias in my chart, and Scorpio too; my father is a Scorpio-Sagittarius cusp and I definitely take more after him than my Pisces mother, as evidenced by everything and its cousin chilling in Scorpio.

I'm a Capricorn Rising, which I agree with. I'm known as a bit too serious but I get my ducks in a row. I suppose that may explain my awkwardness, although it is ironic that I'm a Solar Leo.

I'm stubborn as all get-out, which I suppose the Taurus/Capricorn/Scorpio domination would do. ^^;



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02 Sep 2014, 6:11 pm

namaste wrote:
TallyMan wrote:

The science is plucked from Uranus. :wink:

why dont you learn basic astrology and then say this comment

when galileo said that earth is round he was sentenced to death
the church, the king and community condemned him

its only after he discovered telescope and showed people the round planets
they started believing him

you need to learn it to believe in it.


Well...

Thats not EXACTLY what happened. Lol!

What got the church upset was that Galileo said that sun was the center of the solar system, and not the earth. And that we go around the Sun, and its not the sun that revolves around us. It was the motions, not the shapes, that were the issue.

That round shape thing was Columbus. Except that it wasnt columbus either. Everyone THINKS Columbus was scorned for thinking the earth was round, but that was later mythologizing. Every educated European knew the earth was round. It was the size that they doubted columbus about (rightly as it turned out).But I digress.

But forget both Columbus and Galileo. Recall Shakespeare who said: "our faults lay not in our stars, but in ourselves."



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02 Sep 2014, 10:37 pm

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RetroGamer87 wrote:
Sometimes I read about astrology, I find it to be an amusing fiction. I don't beleive Star Trek is real either but that doesn't stop me from watching it.

As for astrology being a science, it's been practiced for thousands of years, which means it's based on the Ptolemaic system of cosmology in which the planets revolve around the Earth and the constellations are fixed onto the celestial sphere. I wouldn't trust any predictions that are based on how the planets go 'round the Earth.

Because space isn't flat the stars in a constellation may be further away from each other than they appear. In a sense constellations don't really exist, they're an illusion. Furthermore, since astrology has been practiced for thousands of years (probably by self declared Babylonian priests who wanted to get out work), the Earth's axis has shifted since then, so your sign of the Zodiac is off by about two months, as are all other astrological calculations.

Some of those Zodiac personality profiles can be amusing, I notice two things about them. They always say you can at times be outgoing and at times be withdrawn (nearly everyone, the fat part of the bell curve) and the rest of the description consists mainly of compliments e.g. you have esquisite taste, you have an indomitable will... it's pretty easy for people to believe compliments about themselves :lol:

Also, a note to all you new age mystics, stop saying we're in the age of aquarius about to enter it. That's not due for another six hundred years :roll:

you read astrology its a indication of a jupiter moon, or a south node dasha period or jupiter dasha without which you wont venture into studying celestial subjects
i was not into astrology and stuff....its only when my south node dasha period started that i seriously and subconsciously entered into it.
we dont decide or choose it just happens

I think I haven't read as much on astrology as you have so if you clarify, how would I determine whether or not I was born under one of those things you mentioned? Also to which of Jupiter's moons were you refering? Also what did you mean by retrograde planet? I'm not aware of any planet in a retrograde orbit


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03 Sep 2014, 2:55 am

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But forget both Columbus and Galileo. Recall Shakespeare who said: "our faults lay not in our stars, but in ourselves."

are you saying that whatever is happening with me is because of my actions and not my destiny

i dont believe that.

my father was alcoholic so thats my fault, my mother was mentally unstable she used to beat me up without reason so thats my fault
my brother was abuser so thats my fault also....i evoked them to abuse me

my relatives were molesters thats my fault again i seduced them to do that.....i cant stick to a job again my fault
no matter how hard i work, i put my best effort i am sacked....its because of me

i disagree....its in my chart...........my 4th house of mothers love is highly afflicted with south node means my mother would be
cold and unemotional. my father thats sun in my chart is in 8th house of darkness it means my father shows me dark side of life
alcohol, voilence,........

my 3rd house afflicted with saturn cold relationship with siblings. and career 10th house with north node and plutio roller coaster ride in career...

its in my stars...i choose this difficult incarnation so as to grow spiritually and reach higher plane
its hard and affliction to moon gives me suicidal tendencies.
plus constant harassment by society


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03 Sep 2014, 3:57 am

I'm a Sagittarius sun, Aries Moon, Sagittarius Rising, Capricorn Venus, and I forget the rest off the top of my head. I'm a Monkey on the Chinese one. I'm an Elder Raven on the Celtic one. (I have so much fire, it's little wonder I don't like water!) I find that Sagies are more into it than some other signs. I have read a bit about the science side of it, and from what I gather Astrology was a very accepted science, studied at European universities, up until at least the mid 19th Century some 400 years after Galileo (give or take, I'm not looking it up!).

I did find when I was reading my stars everyday, that I would make my day happen according to the reading, so I stopped that. It's probably not a great idea to follow 'fortune telling' too much, but other aspects of it are fascinating. It's something like destiny vs coincidence.

Namaste, Society gives me suicidal tendencies as well - but I like the moon. Illegitimus non carborundum!


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03 Sep 2014, 4:12 am

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I think I haven't read as much on astrology as you have so if you clarify, how would I determine whether or not I was born under one of those things you mentioned? Also to which of Jupiter's moons were you refering? Also what did you mean by retrograde planet? I'm not aware of any planet in a retrograde orbit

you can add your birthchart online and check whether your moon is afflicted. Moon afflicted by ketu gives asperger like tendency isolation, anxiety, social disfunction, wrong behaviour pattern.

aspect of jupiter on the moon or moon and jupiter together.

you had your birth details on chart online it will show R written next to planet means planet is retrograde in your horoscope


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