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Lukecash12
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04 Oct 2014, 5:33 pm

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I have Asperger's and I don't work (for money). It's not just because I was a failure at school with not even a high-school diploma, or because most work environments would have me dissolve into tears, fly into a rage, or just sit there daydreaming about making my own animated cartoons or video games like I really want, but because there is nothing here. Every person I grew up with had to leave to find work as soon as they were done with school. My brother graduated from high school and moved to Ontario where for the next year or the only job he had was at a McDonald's, he had to go without food or even a haircut in a roach-infested apartment and wash his clothes in the bathtub. If I was in a situation like that better put my plot in the nearest cemetery because I'd be dead in a week. My brother has been going to university for what seems like forever, worked for a short time back here at a short-lived animation studio that he told me I probably wouldn't enjoy working at because all he basically did was color in animation by computer for the For Better or For Worse cartoons, and then he moved away again and made computer software for casino machines in Las Vegas and even had trips there where he got to show his work to people from Russia and even brought his family along, but that wasn't something he wanted to do all his life so he went back to school and was doing stuff in theater and drama and he graduated this year. He seems determined to be the most if not only well-educated person in our whole family who once commonly made a living mostly by fishing at sea and believed that somehow it would always be like that. I love my brother but I feel like I'll always be a failure compared to him no matter what my parents or anyone else says. :(


Aaaahhh!! Talk about getting a headache trying to read that. I don't mean any offense but try breaking that stuff up into paragraphs when you write, lot's of times people will simply ignore a block of text like that because it's hard to read. It was hard even keeping track of what line I was on and because there weren't any clean breaks as I read along it felt like my brain just kept jumping from place to place.

But aside from all of that what I have to say to you is that the only person who decides if you are a failure is you. It doesn't matter what age you are or what's happened, if you aren't getting what you want out of life you should form as clear an idea as you can of what you really want and strive towards it. You will achieve it if you do that.

I see this a lot from people on the spectrum and it irks me that so few of you have had the proper upbringing to be self motivated, imo. So many parents just looking at their children as damaged goods, living in denial, and not taking stock of reality and working with their children towards leading a fulfilling life. I don't think this is a fair stereotype at all once you look at enough ASD people's home situations and upbringing.


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05 Oct 2014, 12:24 am

Everyone is an expert about Asperger's. Just like everyone is an expert about addiction and mental illness. Oh and everyone is also an expert on racism, stem cells, and global warming. [/sarcasm]



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05 Oct 2014, 3:56 am

Deb1970 wrote:
At work last week my manager was talking to me about a person she meet with Aspergers. She said she was fascinated with his conversation about trains. She said he lives at home with his parents because people with Aspergers can't work. I could not believe what she just said. I have been working with her for a little over a year and she just said this. Why do most NT's think that people with Aspergers can't work and only talk about there special interest. I wanted to tell her I had Aspergers but in the past people dismiss me. They don't understand that not all people with Aspergers are the same. When you know one Aspie you know one Aspie.


While some Aspies can't a lot can but are not allowed to because of these and other stereotypes and assumptions

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In situation like this I'm not able to respond quickly enough. By the time I'm ready to respond they have either walked away or have moved on to a new topic

This type of thing often happens with me.

Lukecash12 wrote:
the only person who decides if you are a failure is you.
. So many parents just looking at their children as damaged goods, living in denial, and not taking stock of reality and working with their children towards leading a fulfilling life..

True

Lukecash12 wrote:
It doesn't matter what age you are or what's happened, if you aren't getting what you want out of life you should form as clear an idea as you can of what you really want and strive towards it. You will achieve it if you do that.

If you desire to be a hermit this is probably true otherwise imo this is a denial of reality. You might succeed if follow the above advice. If you need any type of interaction with others to achieve success then they will partially determine if you can achieve what you want. You probably will fail if you don?t try.

What is not being considered here is that we are not a perfect judge of our own and especially the other people who we might have to deal with realities.


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05 Oct 2014, 6:41 pm

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NTs stereotype Aspies.
Aspies stereotype NTs.

Everybody stereotypes everyone else. When somebody doesn't do this, they have made a conscious decision not to.


Exactly what I was thinking. And I think also aspies fall for stereotyping too. There's been threads here from aspies asking why they don't have fixed interests or don't stim etc. like they are "supposed to".



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07 Oct 2014, 7:23 pm

If you look around this website, you'll find many people (with an autism spectrum disorder) who are employed. It's by no means a rare thing. ASD's do not preclude success. It might even enable success.

I had rather severe autism as a child which reverted to "Aspergian-type" symptoms when I was 5 years ago. Similar to the boy in "Isaiah's Cup." Similar, in a few respects, to Temple Grandin.

I've been employed at the same place since 1980. It hasn't always been smooth--but I have prevailed.