Why do NTs so readily respect a supposed authority?

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^ FTW ! !! You've hit the nail on the head evilreligion.

If you read "The Underground History of American Education" by John Gatto you can see where different groups of people had a shared interest in shaping education to produce a compliant populace. Aspies are not so easily processed and subsequently have a greater difficulty fitting in with the rest of the herd.

One of the things I noticed about collective systems from the Army was that no matter what it is, if you thought of it it is wrong. Conversely no matter what it is if someone told you to do it, it is right. If you are sitting in a snack bar and a sergeant asks you what you are doing, it is better to say that another sergeant told to to take a break than you thought you would take a break.

Most everyone spends at least 12 years being told to listen to the teacher. The implication is that anything you think is wrong and only the teacher is right. Later when the teacher is replaced by a news reader on TV you will be inclined to believe whatever they tell you as well.

The entire world is rushing towards this type of collectivism. Those few who still care about what is true and try to resist this ground swell momentum, may not be able to turn the tide, but they can find others who still care about what is right and true and encourage and support each other.

I would not worry about those who dismiss what you say because it is not "authoritative". They are doing you a favor by telling you that they are not interested in truth. Avoid them or they will bring you down.

The logical fallacy of appealing to authority is famously abused by bankers, politicians, law-enforcement officers, educators and on and on. They know that it is human nature to accept and believe (even defend) those who appear to "know what they are saying." Con artists and other high-functioning criminals know this, too. Serial killers Charles Manson and Ted Bundy excelled with their knowledge of this fact.

Darwin suggested that there is a price to pay for those of us who fall victim to this fallacy.

When you're a kid, you think everything grown ups say is true. That is why kids are so easy to manipulate. You are the adult so therefore they trust you and will listen to you even if you reassure them it's "okay" to do. When you are a teacher, you are supposed to know your facts so your students will trust you. My mom was shocked when she was an adult that there were Native Americans because she had learned in school they were extinct and that schools can "lie" in their subjects. Not everything you learn in school is true. There is some misinformation out there.

I had a teacher who would always get her history and facts wrong and I was always correcting her. I had to read my textbook and educate myself because she always got stuff wrong and I did fall for it until I started to read the history book instead of listening to her.

I have had the same experience.

Trust brings in the input from emotion where reason only should be used.

Moral compass is something most are conditioned to by authority ( a different authority), so it isn't really a separate thing as it should be. "Social responsibility" is a tool of control needed by those who need a social base to validate their authority.

"In science, appeals to authority are worthless." ~ Carl Sagan

Just like Superman 64! You have to fly through a series of hoops that are nearly impossible, and if use miss one or two, it's back to the beginning. And don't forget the timer, take too long and you won't make it.

Never blindly follow an authority. Even in science, if someone is wrong, their work goes through many other people who examine it. If they fail to produce worthy work, the continue to lose authority. In science, a degree doesn't mean as much. It helps you land a job and it helps you prove that you are knowledgeable about the subject, but you still have to earn your respect through meticulous research and publishing. You can have a degree and be thought of as a quack by the scientific community. A lot of quacks do become respected with the masses.
Medicine is similar, except for residency which provides you with enough respect in the field to start in the field.
A degree is often something to dazzle the world and with one you can get a lot of people to believe in you without warrant. But amongst experts, a simple degree often won't cut it.

In the 1960s, the phrase "question authority" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_authority was a popular slogan for the same reasons.

OP, I understand your frustration, I too have been the one in the right without being believed. But from experience I also know the other side of it: I have had class mates who have made different sort of claims, and I would naturally be more skeptical to their claims (some kid) than that of the teacher or other professional (educated adult).


As for respect for authority, I think it?s pretty common to pretend to their face more than actually feel it. I?ve certainly seen quite a bit of that. Some professions will likely gain more real respect than others, but I don?t buy that all that many are respectful of them because they feel it. It doesn?t fit with what I see and hear.
Pretending to respect say a cop or your boss is just the smart thing to do no matter how much you don?t truly feel it. It's just a way to avoid trouble.

+1

Individuality is systematically crushed or assimilated. Allowing it to stand alone represents a threat to the hive.

Congratulations. You have reached level 2 of the social game.

^This. Exactly.

The average kid in school doesn't really have that much respect for authority. They just know when to pretend to have it.



^This is also a classic trait of narcissism: being unwilling to be corrected or outdone by someone who has a "lower" social rank.

This is reinforced by the media or in our education system where the theme of national interests intersects with the hierarchy on a constant basis. Even those who find news and current affairs too cerebral will find hierarchical structures in shallow television sitcoms or movies. Not to say the concept is worshipped, it's just we are well indoctrinated to blindly accept the leadership, they have vested interests in ensuring that that the system is firmly intertwined with the sense of nationhood and our identity. The war with communism and current war on terror provides a convenient warning that to question the hierarchical system is to undermine our "strength" and give the terrorists (older generation insert communists) the upper hand.



True, it's just Australians are a perfect example of an apathetic product of prosperity and wealth. Don't dare rock the boat, things are so good here (for many) and the teeming hordes (insert third worlders) are just waiting for an excuse to launch boats to take this country over (the latter is a very real fear many Australians still have). So we just accept the generic pyramid of power structure whether it be leadership in business or government.

The most effective alternative is noncompliance. Simply. Don't. Cooperate. With. Authoritarians.

In respect to globalist authoritarians, shift your banking accounts to a neighborhood credit union, instead. Avoid GMO foods. Do your own research about your health care. Look beyond the two-party government; re-register as an unaffiliated or independent voter. Avoid mainstream media which admits it lies and fabricates, anyway. Learn about basic economics and why nationalizing our debts is dangerous.

There is much that someone can do to avoid complying. If you go along with the authoritarians, you have no one but yourself to blame for their illegal and immoral expectations and demands.

It's hardly a problem unique to NTs, plenty of Aspies are very black and white about rules and laws and those who make them, without ever actually critically thinking about them, maybe even more so than NTs.

They do it because there is nothing you can do about it and they are pragmatic so they want to get ahead. Trust me, NT people constantly talk crap about authority figures behind their backs. Seriously folks, just buck up or be self employed if you want to get ahead, however much of a douche that person is you are the winner if you get to go home and enjoy your life.

And government wise: go vote. Every time you can. And if things still shape out bad hopefully you can go to a country that does things better. There's a good chance you can't and that's just a person's lot in life. We still have it pretty good compared to people in absolute poverty all over the world.

they are feeble-minded sheep...baa-baa-aaa-baa