1/2 of US babies ASD by 2025, Glyphosate, & a 2h Autism One

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I don't need to waste two hours of my life to know that this is just a variation of other autism pseudoscience ideas.

Except it's not.

Cliff notes: Glyphosate destroys beneficial gut bacteria which in turn induces ASD symptoms in humans. The increased use of glyphosate is partially responsible for the increased rates of ASD.

Autism is clearly caused by organic food.

The interesting thing in this thread is that several of you demand irrefutable scientific evidence for proof, yet provide absolutely zero evidence to the contrary besides the simple fact that you personally don't believe what Dr. Seneff is teaching.

Has her theory been proven? As I can tell, no, so it's pseudo-science.

I was not exposed to any herbicides or aluminum when I was an infant, and neither of my parents were either while my mom was pregnant and before she was pregnant.

I'm all for believing in religion, but when it comes to science, you need facts, and this women is full of crap when it comes to them. She reminds me of the type of people who want to cure Autism instead of accommodate those who are on the spectrum. Here is an article that pretty much dispels anything that she says

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/ins ... lypse-2025

That should immediately set off a red flag and say she's full of horses**t. Don't trust this woman.

Neither of your parents ever ate food that was grown with the use of herbicides? You've never eaten any in your lifetime, either?

Again, she's not declaring it as The cause, but A cause/contributing factor. The info in the presentation makes sense. Roundup kills plants via certain pathways that humans don't have, but beneficial bacteria in our guts do. Roundup kills them and imbalances the gut making way for pathogens and parasites to flourish. etc.

I agree. Haven't we seen enough threads about this theory? Can we just accept that people have their minds made up and it's not going to draw any new believers here? This is the last response I'm going to make to any "gut bacteria=Autism" thread, because there's really no point. We get a new one every 2 or 3 weeks and they just go in circles.

And we'll continue to get new ones as frequently as new articles/research/news etc come out about advancements in knowledge about the topic. It's not going away. Discovering the root/exacerbating cause of Autism & how to successfully treat it is not something that Autism researchers are going to stop publishing information about, and it's not something people in the ASD community are going to stop discussing. It may be controversial for the anti-treatment crowd, but it's not going away anytime soon - or ever.

Treatment? That sounds like some Autism $peaks BS. Good lord, here we go.

Why can't you just accept the fact that you are on the spectrum and it isn't going to go away? I'm pretty sure the majority of us here realize that and learn to cope with having it. It's not like having cancer and that it needs to go away. Having Asperger's or being on the spectrum makes you unique as opposed to the billions of neurotypicals. I know if there was a "cure" I would not take it.

Treatment, yes. As in something people do to alleviate the symptoms of an ailment or condition.

I can & do accept that - in fact, I embrace it. I've never said I'm "cured," but I have said that I have managed to reduce my own symptoms to the point that they are no longer likely considered clinically significant and on any good day may not receive a diagnosis of ASD any longer. In October my symptoms relapsed after a strong dose of antibiotics destroyed the digestive balance I had achieved via diet and probiotics, and once behaviours and things were pointed out to me with some constructive criticism I knew what I had to do to regain said balance and have worked hard on it since - I'm back to almost as good as I've ever gotten again.

We all realize it and learn to cope. I get that. I do the same. But I don't have to cope with much now that my symptoms are 1/20th the magnitude they once were & I'm a much happier, healthier, more intuitively socially connected person.

No, it's not like having cancer that Needs to go away or you will die. But it (potentially) is a physical ailment for others as it has been for me that Can be successfully treated in order to live a much more fulfilling life. I know because I'm having a LOT more fun and making plenty more money for it.

Agreed, it does make people unique. I'm still unique.. but just a lot less "idiot," and a bit more "savant." Now I can use Asperger's to my advantage vs. Asperger's causing disadvantages for me. I've been working hard, stacking cash, and investing wisely (I hope) in order to Rain Man a little extra income out of the stock market. I've completed some other projects, successfully, too, and am now moving on to my next goal and the next and the next. Instead of feeling like I have great ideas and potential, I'm making all of those things reality one by one. I've come a LONG way in the last 2 years - accomplishing and achieving things that were impossible a few short years ago, and now looking forward to the future and wondering what else I might be able to do in my life. I'm rapidly catching up to and surpassing my NT peers in work/life/career/fitness/finances etc & have even bigger goals for myself.

That's your free choice not to take a "cure," nor to treat yourself. But that doesn't mean I should stop sharing what's worked miraculously for me as it may help others who are interested in making the kinds of changes in their symptoms and lives as I have done for myself. So, feel free to ignore my posts and threads if you like - or post with whatever constructive criticism you like - but please don't derail discussions that others may want to participate in because they are interested in what I have to share with the group here, thanks.

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There is no proof that the rates of ASD are much higher, there is a good change its just recognized more often now as autism. Not so sure it actually existed less in history, maybe just not diagnosed as much.

Maybe people with autism for whatever reason are more likely to have gut/digestive issues...of course treating those issues is going to improve someones life, but treating those gut issues is not going to rid someone of their autism, it will relieve those issues and so there wont be that to add to symptoms. I mean just in general I know things get to me more when I am having those sorts of issues....less tolerance for things that set off sensory sensitivities and things, basically bad mood due to being uncomfortable can also probably exaberate what appear to be autism symptoms perhaps. '

I simply cannot be convinced gut bacteria and digestive issues is the 'cause' of autism...if that were the case pro-biotics should cure it.

I agree generally with Goldfish, but I admit that I know little about glyphosates. I certainly don't find his opinion objectionable. I do find attempts to shut down ideas, however seemingly outlandish, to be highly objectionable. XFilesGeek appears to do so, too.

I suspect that the claim that half of babies born in 2025 will have ASDs is a little more symbolic than factual or conclusive, but I admit that any trends, left unabated, usually stay their courses. That ASDs have been diagnosed in recent years should concern us. Sure, public and professional awareness of ASDs has increased diagnoses, but I don't believe that awareness alone is responsible for all new diagnoses.

I have my opinions about what shares that responsibility, but that is for another topic and another day. I recognize that certain disorders and diseases other that ASDs can be notably induced or mimicked. I can't believe, therefore, apart from neurological differences, the same isn't true about some ASDs that are based, for now, primarily on observable characteristics.

In my opinion, the question about whether ASDs can be induced or mimicked hasn't yet been answered conclusively. Until it is, I remain interested in the premise.

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I bet the steps you took have improved your symptoms & life, but what is to say its not just the fact you improved your over-all health that helped decrease some symptoms. You're experience simply is not proof gut bacteria or other digestive problems 100% without a doubt 'cause' autism...its proof you found ways of improving your health/reducing symptoms....would you say all your autism symptoms are 'gone' or you just handle it better and have decreased some especially troubling ones. What is to say every symptom that was improved via your diet and pro-biotics was an 'autism' symptom specifically?

How does it induce ASD symptoms in humans? Can you explain that mechanism, or do you have a link to a more detailed explanation as to how exactly it induced these symptoms.