Putin apparently have Asperger's syndrome

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Putin an aspie? (You've got to be effin kidding me...)

Megalomaniac: yes
Evil dictator: uh, yes
Crook: definitely
Psychopath: probably
Aspie: Uh, no.

Remember when Allied propagandists published reports suspecting Hitler to be a homosexual?

Yeah, same thing going on here.

I doubt it. He might seem awkward on this clip but I believe its just because he is speaking English which he doesn't know well. He is probably just reciting it, without paying attention to specific words. That's why he is not expressive.

However there is a hope for aspies that are into politics. We have one in Poland. He is not diagnosed but he shows a lot of traits. Here is a clip of his speaking in English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr6OkJbaXqQ . He makes a "mistake" using the word "n****r" but thats not really a mistake, he means it. He makes such "mistakes" in Polish too, he is well known of saying controversial things. He always says what he means and he doesn't seem aware that it might hurt someone. Also he is unable to participate in any discussion - he tends to monologue and when other people try to say something he tries to yell them off. He does it even on this clip.

Next thing they will be saying he is cutting off babies hands, that's always a good one when the West wants volunteer cannon fodder for one of their world wars they like to start

I'm guessing the implication is that since he's got an ASD, there's a pathological reason for why he's so stubborn, because god knows people out there won't agree with other people unless they've got something wrong with them ("wrong" being a medical condition here).

from someone on reddit, posted this in another thread here

Don't know about the rest, but MRI does have utility in autism. Even if there's no consistent results, they do show that those with an ASD are different to normal people (it's just that the results vary between those with an ASD).

It does pick up differences/damage though.

To the OP, thanks for posting. This link was also sent to via text by a friend this morning and I found it enlightening. I have a few thoughts to share.

To the OP: I don't think money is ever wasted by anyone in researching Asperger's including analyzing Putin's traits. This is important information to know when predicting how best to approach a subject with someone so they feel at ease or in a way that fosters clear understanding. Without understanding the underlying behavior traits of a person you are at a disadvantage. As far as the idea that "Putin will be the new Asperger's boogie man rather than Hitler", I think that is taking it a bit far. I had found that the majority of people in this world have NO IDEA exactly what Asperger's Syndrome is let alone how it manifests. I don't care what mental issues Hitler had. What matters is that he was a horrible leader that caused great suffering. Putin, well… Time will tell what he will ultimately be known for. Its too early to say.

Your statement assumes that people are influenced by the media labeling people with Asperger's who have done bad things. I do agree with you there. The media does this. And perhaps the best example of this was the Sandy Hook school shooter Adam Lanza. At the time it happened, the media were all over his Asperger's connection… and all of a sudden for some reason Asperger's Syndrome was blamed. That is because the general public (specifically neurotypical people who have NO IDEA what it is) don't understand that Asperger's is NOT a personality disorder but rather a "wiring" disorder. It is simply that people with Asperger's have different thinking patterns. That is it! Nothing more. Its as if someone could accuse someone of being guilty of a crime because they are neurotypical. That's utter nonsense. Asperger's doesn't cause someone to commit crimes… personality disorders do that. And it is possible for someone with Asperger's to have personality disorders as well. The real "cause" should never be Asperger's. The media should be more careful in how they report. The real "causes" will be whatever underlying comorbid personality disorders exist there.

Ganondox: I had to laugh at your comment. That's the exact thing that went through my thoughts as well. The person at USA Today who wrote the article is under the erroneous impression that a brain scan detects Asperger's? Where the heck did did he receive that information from? He did not state his source. And it got past the editors and fact checkers without a source. There is no brain scan that exists that will confirm Asperger's. But the general public is sooo dang ignorant that they don't question what a newspaper says and take stupid errors like this, that are printed in legitimate news publications as fact. Because they trust the media. In my experience, it is the media that is the least informed group of people on the planet when it comes to Asperger's and Autism. They are the ones who spread the misinformation.

What are my credentials for stating the above, you may ask? I have a Master's Degree in Library Science with History Degree undergrad. For about 13 years, I worked at an American newspaper in the capacity of a fact checker and had daily interactions with reporters and editors seeking to fact check data. I've worked one on one with reporters and editors. They can be some of the most naive and misinformed people on the planet. Some of them don't know how to ask the right questions to get the information they are seeking. Yes, there are some extremely excellent ones (the ones who have been in the business the longest), but I would say the majority are lackluster in their abilities.

As far as the video links posted by Shauna88 and Korin. I watched both. There is something I need to state here… remember, Putin's videos likely can't be used as a judge of Asperger's. Let me tell you why I think that.

As quoted from the USAToday article: "Experts believe each individual has a unique "body signature" that tracks how one body movement links to the next. These "posture/gesture mergers" can lead investigators to learn more about a person's thinking processes and relative truthfulness when combined with the person's speaking."

and "Movement pattern analysis means studying an individual's movements to gain clues about how he or she makes decisions or reacts to events."

I had a "taste" of Movement Pattern Analysis last week when I video chatted with a new friend and he commented on physical movements and conversation patterns in myself. This person did a pseudo analysis (informal) so I could see what he picked up about me and explained things to me. During this pseudo analysis, I was "myself". Meaning I was in my home, at the computer one on one with no audience and was completely relaxed and myself.

The videos of Putin really can't be used as much of a guide here because these were taken when he was in formal situations, on national camera. We are not seeing Putin's "true" person, but a persona he presents to the public. I'm sure he has had training in public speaking and has learned to "hide" any quirks by those who counsel him. Shauna88 points out his awkwardness of his arms in this video, but I agree with a poster further down from Shauna's that it could be he doesn't know where to place emphasis on his words through body language because he's not speaking his own language. We would have to see how he moves his arms if he would speak the same speech in his own language.

The Pentagon study would have had many many hundreds of state videos and materials to work with that the general public does not have. They would be able to study these videos for decision making patterns. Physical traits are only a VERY SMALL part of what Asperger's is.

I wouldn't ever think anyone could be successfully diagnosed by video alone. Especially video of someone never met in person. The purpose of the video chat I took place in myself was so that I could have someone who was diagnosed and has studies Asperger's to identify physical traits that I can't SEE myself. The vast majority of my self-diagnosis rests on traits that are NOT physical.

As far as whether or not I think the study is correct? Well, I would not have enough information to discern that. I would have to know much more about neuroscience and would not attempt to make a judgement on whether the Pentagon study is correct. I'll leave that up to experts in that field.

Just a few things to keep in mind …

Regards

putin isn't very asbergery in having pictures taken like this where he wants people to think he is a certain way (macho):



if he were, he wouldn't care.

The report is ridiculous and should have gotten lost in a dusty cabinet where it belongs, here is a better summary of its "methodology"

My brother and I(both aspies) spent significant amounts of time doing exhaustive research on Vladimir Putin for fun and interest.
He is the opposite of what the western media makes him out to be.
Do I think he is Aspie?
I have always thought he was.
I am very Proud that he is one of us.
The more one learns about Vladimir Putin, The more one likes the man.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/autho ... putin.html
http://eng.putin.kremlin.ru/bio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIbAUqKR_F8 (putin on christmas )


before making judgments ---READ about the man for yourself ...watch him in videos an interviews, see how he interacts with those around him . ..what he says how he behaves.
Dont take the words of the NT western media types and our awful NT politicians in washington.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea