Is it just me or is this all f****d up?

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I wouldnt just assume that if I were you.

Alot of people use this sort of reasoning to determine if they want to have a child. They do this before having the child, obviously. But once the child is there, these generally are NOT the reasons why they care about and love the child. If they truly had nothing but greed as a reason, you'd be getting no support or money from them (that's generosity, not greed, it's literally the direct opposite), and likely, they'd have kicked you out before. Parents that truly do care only about such things usually do this. I've seen it happen to people I know before: "You dont have a job, and you're not contributing to the family or society? OUT YOU GO, you'll learn a thing or two if you're on your own! KTHXBAI!! !" says the parent who never gave a fart and was about as generous as a pile of bees to begin with.


As for contributing to society, yeah, I can agree with you. I'm in a position where I dont HAVE to. The family has wealth, my father is absurdly generous, and typically, I just do what I want, when I want, all the time. My hobby is gaming, and if I want to buy a new one, I just go do so. No reason not to. So I do it frequently.

Now, I'll help friends and family when necessary, since I care, but being productive for society? Got to be kidding. Most people are jerks or idiots, or both, and for the most part, I really dont care. And I dont see how being a cashier at the local Walmart at all "helps society". All it'd do is get me irritated and depressed.

Self-answered question.

Then move out and quit being a burden on them, you freeloader. You're an adult, so you are responsible for yourself.

Absolutely. I don't contribute to society because I feel it's what I'm supposed to do, I'm not trying to live up to social expectations. I work because I want to. I want to know I'm independent from my parent's influence. Having my own money and freedom is a big deal to me. You are right, the majority of society does not accept those who do not fully conform to their gender role or are otherwise different (asperger's) and I feel I'm both of those things. But I have also found that my close friends, family, and people I love otherwise do accept me unconditionally, regardless of my "shortcomings" and that is why I choose to contribute to society.

Whoa! I don't think it's THAT bad. The only way my situation would be any worse is if I WAS Black. I'm White though thank goodness.

Let's answer these in sequence.

Not at the moment.

Yep.

Hell no.

Inheritence. PLUS grandparents inheritance. Also, why on EARTH would I NEED "8 million dollars"? I'm not a consumer. I hate materialism. I don't need half the useless s**t most people get. Right now I have a cheap car, a computer and some electronics. Some weed or whatever. I'm good.

I have one younger sister. 6 years my junior. It's not much. Not even a decade difference. We will be "old" at around the same time.

If my sister doesn't take me in and we don't have immortality/age rejuvination by 2075 or so, there's always suicide.

Not every old person needs care though. Some age just fine.

I DON'T plan on living in pain when I'm old and not being able to do anything about it. One bullet will fix a lifetime of problems.

f**k it is WEIRD talking about me being 75 or whatever considering I live that long.

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They brought this burden on themselves by having me. Now we find out that I have ASD when I'm 9 or so.

They now have to deal with their mistake of having me.

ZERO sympathy here. I could care less if I'm a burden.

You don't owe society anything.

I don't owe society anything.

NO ONE owes society anything.

A 'debt to society' is an evil statist belief.

The reason why you should get a job is so you can make money and pursue the things that make you happy. If you don't want to get a job and can still pursue the things that make you happy then good for you. You don't get a job or take part in society to contribute to it. You get a job and participate in society to make yourself and the ones you love happy.

Right on all points, though some people may enjoy the idea that they are contributing to the general good and pursue goals that meet their concept of this--because that makes them happy.

I mostly agree with the OP, though my attitude towards this issue isn't quite so black and white.

I would rather not tell anybody that they had a "duty towards society." I would instead tell them exactly what I was asking them to do, because I think that's precise and sincere, it's an "I" statement, it doesn't hide behind glittering external generalisations, and it's relatively inoffensive. As for society, I think that in the current one that we're supposedly "all in together" is so cruel and unequal in terms of status, wealth and power that I have a problem taking seriously any appeal from its supporters to my sense of ethics (duty). Emotionally I sometimes feel that I owe a particular person something, and I feel a sense of duty to repay them, but I don't feel that I owe EVERYBODY.

Treebeard put it very well in Lord Of The Rings when he said "I am not altogether on anybody's side, because nobody is altogether on my side." It might be a little unenlightened, but it's fair.

OTOH, I'm not comfortable with the philosophy of "stuff the lot of them." It's not practical unless you have your own self sufficient, one-person territory that's somehow perfectly protected from invasion. Even then, you'd have to be incapable of feeling lonely or suffering from the isolation. I sympathise with the attitude, but I can't believe it would ever work.

I don't like the idea of sponging off people much, but the world sponges off most of us in one way or another, so it only has itself to blame until it puts its house in order. I feel no anger towards benefit scroungers unless they're living the life of Riley, because that's no better than what the elite do, though I'm sure it's a very rare thing (in spite of claims from the tabloid press), and again, I object to the idea that any individual has a duty to be better than others.

I think the idea of duty in these matters clouds the issue. Free of such pressure, helping others, collaborating and co-operating with them, can be seen more clearly for what it is - a privilege, a luxury, a thing that is good for us. I feel very sorry for anybody who has no compassion, no capacity to love or share. There's a lot to feel cynical about in the world, but I never met a happy cynic.

Unless you are a trust fund kid, this is unlikely to last you for very long. Plus it won't all be yours. Part will go to your sister.

Care costs for your parents and grandparents as their health fades will eat up a chunk. Inheritance tax will eat up another chunk. If you are middle class, you may be able to live 5-10 years on what is left is you stick to a very minimal lifestyle and spend as slowly as possible.

I am currently doing the math in figuring out how to leave the maximum amount to my daughter. You would be amazed at how much just evaporates in taxes. You will also be amazed- in a bad way- just how much it costs even to live frugally and how quickly money disappears to rent,food,utilities,health care and furniture (and I mean bare bones furniture like a bed, fridge and stove).

You need to sit down with your parents and figure out a real plan and this should include a job if possible. If not possible, you need to do the paperwork for government assisstance. If you are counting on inheritance to support you for more than a few years, you will be in for a horrific surprise.

LOL at 29 being "late in life".

I'll just move in with my sister if things get really bad.

Yes, I'm aware of how hard it is to survive because of how the few elite own everything. Everything is f****d up. I'm well aware. I don't trust ANY form of government and never will. I don't vote.

If I could, I'd kill each and every person who is in a position to make my life difficult to live.

All of this just to die a mere 80 years later.

There is more than one type of person in the world. You have more friends than you think.

Deformed Dolphin Adopted by Family of Whales

The f**k does that have to do with anything I said?

Apart from living a nihilist philosophy, do you have any personal goals OP? If so, what are they?