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23 Feb 2015, 1:36 pm

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Eating out is pretty much as bad as using a dirty dish at home. Hygiene practice in restaurants etc is pretty disgusting.

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Sometimes a small fly could come in from somewhere and have its mid-day snack on your dirty plate, even if your place is usually pest free. Also springtails are common even in clean houses. They are harmless but yukky.



Depends on the place. Burger joint on the street corner is probably horrific, but the nice restaurant with a shiny kitchen that you can see through the door is probably ok.



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23 Feb 2015, 1:50 pm

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Depends on the place. Burger joint on the street corner is probably horrific, but the nice restaurant with a shiny kitchen that you can see through the door is probably ok.

My sister is the PIO for our county health department. As part of her duties, she is expected to know about the reasons why certain restaurants, cafes and caterers have been closed (temporarily or permanently). She tells me that the food vendors that seem sketchy almost always are. So, if you walk into a vendor and wonder about its safety, turn around and go elsewhere. In our county, at least, the health-department web site includes a constantly updated and searchable list of inspection violations by all vendors here. A couple hours of searching through it should give most people a sizable list of nearby vendors who haven't had many (or any) violations in the last five years.

Having stated that, there are also certain food vendors and their cooking staffers (including a disproportionate number of foreign-immigrant workers) who resist learning and using food-safety measures. That ends up causing the business to close permanently (three-strikes rule in our county).


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23 Feb 2015, 2:10 pm

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So, if you walk into a vendor and wonder about its safety, turn around and go elsewhere.


Thats a good idea.

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In our county, at least, the health-department web site includes a constantly updated and searchable list of inspection violations by all vendors here. A couple hours of searching through it should give most people a sizable list of nearby vendors who haven't had many (or any) violations in the last five years.


We have the same here in Sweden, i think parts of the information are public records, and i once saw a map over the town i grew up in, it had a lots of places with violations, but the places i usually eat at only have one or none. And one violation isn't necessary horribly dangerous, it can be about not storing food properly, or not cleaning the kitchen to a 100% clean state, but it can also be about the restaurant storing sallad in the showers - or cases of salmonella.

On another note, i know KFC will return shortly to Sweden, they had problems with the health code back in the 80s and there were other problems and had to be shut down, but regardless, i'm glad that they will return, in spite of what people have told me about KFC.

...as long as i do not have to do the dishes :)



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23 Feb 2015, 2:16 pm

Never be a dishwasher or bus boy. Ever



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23 Feb 2015, 2:31 pm

Ichinin wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
So, if you walk into a vendor and wonder about its safety, turn around and go elsewhere.

Thats a good idea.

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In our county, at least, the health-department web site includes a constantly updated and searchable list of inspection violations by all vendors here. A couple hours of searching through it should give most people a sizable list of nearby vendors who haven't had many (or any) violations in the last five years.

We have the same here in Sweden, i think parts of the information are public records, and i once saw a map over the town i grew up in, it had a lots of places with violations, but the places i usually eat at only have one or none. And one violation isn't necessary horribly dangerous, it can be about not storing food properly, or not cleaning the kitchen to a 100% clean state, but it can also be about the restaurant storing sallad in the showers - or cases of salmonella.

On another note, i know KFC will return shortly to Sweden, they had problems with the health code back in the 80s and there were other problems and had to be shut down, but regardless, i'm glad that they will return, in spite of what people have told me about KFC.

...as long as i do not have to do the dishes :)

Hehe. Your experiences and regulations seem identical to mine. :)


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23 Feb 2015, 2:33 pm

I use the same cup for coffee throughout the day - just rinsing under the tap between times. With a plate if I've only had toast or a biscuit on it, I'll reuse after a quick wipe with my clean hand but anything that had liquid i.e. soup, cereal or fresh fruit in is only used once.

My mother likes to buy small tubs of serve yourself salads at the supermarket and I get on to her that she has no idea of the cleanliness of the previous shoppers' hands and it is a horrendous thought what could be on their hands.
I'm the same with shopping trolley [carts] handles - how often are they wiped clean?????


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23 Feb 2015, 2:57 pm

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...I'm the same with shopping trolley [carts] handles - how often are they wiped clean?????

Ohh, when I worked in the marketing department of a Los Angeles-area hospital, I had to complete basic medical terminology and practices orientation despite being a marketer. During the class, they spent an extraordinary amount of time describing the everyday things that are the most likely culprits for spreading disease: handrails, elevator buttons, those pens that every bank teller "lets you use," corded telephones (keypads and receivers), door handles, chairs and their armrests, light switches, magazines and newspapers, water fountains, toilet-flush knobs, and my favorites ... cash and handshakes. :wink:

On the other hand, I resist using those anti-bacterial gels (except the alcohol-based kind) because they actually make bacteria stronger while decreasing my own immunities. So, I have learned over the years to avoid touching these things unless necessary. I can open most public-accommodation doors without touching their handles, etc. And, I never touch my face when I am outside my home, because I tend to forget what things I have touched in transit.

The world would be a lot healthier if everyone knew these tactics.


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23 Feb 2015, 5:30 pm

I will reuse a glass all day long, as long as I'm putting the same beverage in it, but I rinse it out between refills.

I would only reuse a plate or bowl, if I am immediately going back for seconds. But not after it's been sitting for awhile.



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23 Feb 2015, 6:09 pm

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She might be telling the truth. I have a strong "yuk" reaction to dirty dishes if the food remnants are wet or gloopy. I was relieved to discover those long-handled dishwashing brushes, they really help, much better than a cloth.

Hmm...... :idea: ......if she hates washing dishes and you don't, maybe the solution is to take her off the rota? Of course she'd need to be given another chore that she has less of a problem with, to make up the labour time. But you've probably already thought of that.


her? telling the truth? :P

anyway, yeah i have one of those brushes too, where one can put soap in it but it's not 'long-handled' by any means. but it works, reduce whatever grossness factor, and an excellent scrubber too.

we've already given her another chore, she does vacuum the carpet, when prompted more than a few times.


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