do some ppl want AS?

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My thoughts exactly. It's not because we're different, it's because we're different from everybody else!

Ageed, my AS gives me an unique way of being, I will not trade that for normality for anything, but it would be great to simply be more able to live my way.

As for health, I know of 3 people who killed themselves in the last 3 years, and they where normal, NTs suffer from problems, dissappointments etc too.

Other people don't seem to see it that way though, they see it as a disability. When really, if the situation was reversed and more people had AS, it would be NTs who were classed as a disorder!

faith,

Some people have a number of OTHER problems. And, of course, at least NEARLY every one has social issues. The MEDIA talks only about THAT! The fact is that there ARE some good things. My social problems are ones I would consider major.

At my current job, there are 2 tracks. One leads to low 6 figures, with lots of work, and some is boring. The other pretty much STARTS at mid 6 figures, and keeps going up! GUESS which track I am on! YEP! I am on the first one, and basically hit the cieling! About the only way I have a chance of getting more money is to go someplace else. 8-(
WHY? Well, all the reasons ARE AS symptoms!

I've never been married. I probably won't be.

Luckily, other problems are minor. I won't become a dancer or a sports legend though. 8-(

BUT, there ARE some good things to balance it out! On my JOB problem, for example, a LOT of people work FAR harder, and never get close to where I am. I don't think I'll ever end up on the street. People that call me dumb REALLY live up to that old saying of "I'm rubber, you're glue, etc...". My self esteem is so high that I generally look at them as blithering idiots if they do that!

And HEY, I've been running sub par for a while. I really think I can do better.

HECK, I see some abilities some here have and say HEY, I'd LOVE that! But I haven't met many NTs that have any real talent that I would want.

Steve

This reminds me of something I saw on Newsnight (on the BBC) a few weeks ago. There was a boy (who was about 10 I think) and had an ASBO or something. His mother was saying he probably had Aspergers so the story was covered as a story about children with 'mental health problems' or something similar. When if you watched the story it became clear that whether he had AS or not, it wasn't Asperger's that was the problem, it was the fact that his parents were letting him smoke in the house at the age of about 8! Yet the media were making out that all his problems stemmed from the fact that he might be autistic. It just showed how little understanding there really is about it

I am not diagnosed, but the notion that I might be AS explains alot about the way I have been my whole life...I have always had developmental problems and problems socializing...I was tortured in school for not knowing how to dress and walking on my toes being highly sensitive unable to participate in groups and constantly daydreaming...I simply couldn't fit in...over time I tried to let it work to my advantage to the best of my ability..but the constant nagging feeling of being trapped in a bubble that separated me from everyone else...combined with all this other stuff that I won't bother going into....whe I first learned ADHD (read about it in a book as a teenaged library aid...(my main school sport since elementary school)...I thought AH-HA that is ME! Wow! there is actually a group of people out there who have the same problems i do....and for years I was on ADHD forums...but didn't get a formal diagnosis till I was 30....but ADHD didn't explain alot of other issues that I have...and then one day somebody on one of my forums said they had a high functioning Autism and that i sounded like i might too and that i should look into it....and i did....and shore enuff....here I am..

But it is not an issue of WANTING to be an Aspie so much as wanting to identify with others who are somewhat like me.

but ever since joining AS groups..I have noticed this kinda fingerpointing at "wannabees"..and have heard talk of Aspie "wannabees"..and might have even been accused of being a "wannabee"
But this forum is more open..and even if I went to a shrink and they said I didn't have it...I am still able to fit because this forum is ADHD friendly...and i take the stinking aspie quiz over and over and try to be as objective as possible and still come up with a high AS score.

I don't want it at all. I want to be able to make friends and have normal relationships, to not have all t he trouble on jobs that I do because I'm afraid of people not liking me, of having trouble understanding that when the boss says he wants a PDF printed, it means he wants it for his phone conversation right now not at some later time such has happened with me the other day and was a direct result of AS.

I do want to be diagnosed because it'd explain why I'm the way I am. For instance, the above example. It baffles people why someone who seems intelligent wouldn't realize this. They think I'm just doing it to make trouble when that's the last thing I want.

So yes, I want to be diagnosed if I do have AS, but I wish I didn't have it as it's caused nothing but trouble for me.

EXACTLY!! !! !!

Steve

Yes, they have problems towards us and even have a disorder caused by living with us. But we need to keep our emotions out of it because it only fuels the problems for us.

Dealing with NT social expectations is like learning a new language and should be approached as such. It may be as obtuse as C++ but it can be learned. It actually has a lot in common with programming objects because these situations have inhertiance features that can be applied from one to another.

My advice is to study their behavior so you can navigate more easily. What is says about you is that you are more intelligent because you realize it is a communication and interaction style problem and you're willing to learn. Unfortunately, they seldom budge from their positions and we can't change them.

That's what I do to try and deal with it. Since I was about 13 I've watched how other people my age act and tried to in some way emulate that when I need to. The problem with it though is, I don't do it very well so I end up just repeating myself all the time or copying how other people react too obviously. I guess I just need to work on it

Have faith, faith!
Childhood is the worst part of life for an aspie. You are in the world of children: they do not want to understand you and they are anything but innocent.

You have not developed yourself yet, you are not in control of your own life. You probably have an aspie giftedness somewhere - but you may not have found it yet as a lot of us are far better at adult things than kids stuff.

You will grow older. You will learn to fit into your self. It will be okay.

OK for you! My biggest problem right now is WOMEN! Even AS women probably couldn't help me out there. I don't even know if NT women can. Did you ever see the Star Trek Episode that dealt with "Elasian tears"? Well, they might as well have spoken about EARTH women! SAME THING! Oddly, I don't really want to find a cure(I guess that is a symptom of the infection. ), but simply a way of telling when it is meant and/or appropriate.

There IS something that is missing in sales related fields, but a lot of that is due to a "lack of larceny in my soul". I COULD put on an act, but I REALLY don't want to change that much. (Almost like not wanting to cure "Elasian tears".)

As for the time I was almost fired a few years ago? I am CONSTANTLY polling people, and STILL 100% agree with ME! My understanding BETTER be correct, because BARRACK OBAMA(The black senator and possible democrat candidate for the next president of the U.S.) recently folded his hands in a TELEVISED MEDIA EVENT like I did!

Steve

id prefer to have it than not know why i am like i am

Faith,

Try to push yourself when you are younger. One way or another, your deficits will pop up someplace else as a STRENGTH! It just usually ends up that way.

You may not even appreciate it. I didn't even recognize it until I was in 1st grade! Until that point, I just didn't have any idea where I was in relation to others. TODAY, so few have even any idea, but they have some respect for what they CAN see. HECK, even I have NO idea. I am like some flunky at a persons computer with NO knowledge of http or networks, and I look at this computer I was given. It appears to be just a little dinky thing, and practically worthless! Until you find out that it is hooked up to a fantastic local area network, and find out about http, you just don't really realize it. HEY, maybe YOU'RE the only one that has access to part of that network, and don't know it.

Steve

the day that i can sit around playing WoW, reading/writing and making art... drinking beer and surrounding myself with people who don't try to trick me in jest or talk incessantly at me... i will be perfectly happy with my-"AS"-self.

until then... i'll keep trying to make things work, just like everyone else.. i'm sure.

i'm not DXed... but like many have already mentioned... something in the AS enighborhood is the best explanation i've come across yet for justifying my crazitude.

I don't "want" AS, but I have it. So I have two options: A) POOR ME!, or B) Work through it. I f*cking hate the poor me attitude.