Aspies and NTs

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I have met several other aspies in my lifetime and I must say, I didn't like a single one of them.

Unfortunately, in the corporate culture, sociopaths are the ones who get ahead.

I can think of a few NTs (a very small minority) I've met that are genuinely good people.

NTs are 95% of the people. Of course some of them will be A-holes.

I was picked on by an Aspie, so we can be mean too! So it's not just NTs who are mean.

Can this be really an aspie trait? but now that you mention it, I always have been honest, and I also give people the benefit of the doubt, it worried me that most people I knew didn't do that, and they just blame someone for something without listening, and that always disturbed me.

This means they treat you well and understand you, isn't it?

My whole family is NT, except for my brother who appears to have some aspie traits as well nt traits, don't know where to put him, and a cousin possible aspie, anway I am happy with them.

I NEVER said that aspie's are superior to NT's,but the majority of NT's just belittle us for who we are just because the aspie guys aren't gangsta wannabe's,jocks or rednecks/hicks and the aspie girls are belittled because they aren't a bunch of sluts that idolize paris hilton and britney spears.

But both genders are bullied for ONE reason: We are different.

Therefore you logic on conformity phailz.

Yeah, I'm sad to hear that. The Aspies here sound nice, and apparantly some of them don't have bad stims, or VERY bad sensitivities. Heck, many, like myself, were almost hidden, and rationalized things as just an odd circumstance and personality. I think such people could make good friends with each being able to tolerate differences.

Not that I have anything against people with bad stims, it is just odd, and all could feel uncomfortable over time. I also have nothing against worse sensitivities, they just might be to limiting and the more tolerant one wouldn't be able to gauge things right.

Steve

Steve

Sort of...

I understand spontaneous compassion and I am not knocking it in AS or NT or gender or sexual orientation or ethnic group or what ever else way one can divide people.

However I did find out that most NT are operating on a level called 'the common sense' that they tune into like a radio receiver. That 'common sense' radio station turns on between them and they move as one to help the person that is inconvenienced to clear the area so the sprawled person is not a navigational hazard for others in the hall, and to clear up the personal items partly for the same reason and partly to collect your possessions for your convenience later. They didn't stop to remember who you were to the group, the were propelled by stronger ties to that common vibe, the 'common sense.'

This is where the 'do unto others as you would do unto you' comes from,in religious belief, that 'common sense' vibe when it is reinforced by religion or personal beliefs.

People who HAVE little or no 'common sense' reception do things out of compassion only, and often we attribute the actions of those with GREAT 'common sense' reception as compassion, but it is more often just that amazing common sense reception. This is why they wave away any thanks, especially achingly grateful and profuse thanks, as would be appropriate only for someone who makes a conscious decision to 'tend and befriend.'

I have found this to be true, your milage may vary.

Merle

Game theory at it's best. See Nash.

I have quite a few NT friends but most of them are "imperfect" NTs, i.e., they don't have the best social skills, they're geeky, have depression, or are otherwise not the people we see who seem to interact flawlessly.

I don't have a problem with NTs, I deal with all human beings on a case-by-case basis. I have seen many NTs who were quite nice and a few Aspies who were quite rude.

That being said, I CAN understand where people are coming from, who say they do not like NTs. Some people here have not had the good experiences with NTs that I have. When you have been burned repeatedly because you trusted people, the natural reaction is to distrust. I tend to distrust the most capable of NTs, the ones who seem endlessly popular and confident. I wish it wasn't this way, but that is my natural reaction. In my case that is also partly how I was raised, since most people in my family were not fully NT and so they didn't trust the outside world either.

And I do feel that people have the right to vent here. WP is like a large ongoing support group, and in such a setting, if you cannot be fully honest, it won't help you much.

What an assinine thing to say. Have you ever been beaten to a pulp for no f*****g reason except you were different. If not then shut the f**k up.

What does “NT” actually stand for?

Neurotypical. Of course there's no such thing since everyone is on a continuum, so for the use in Psychology, Neurology and on this board it really means non-AS and non-AU. You could have a brain injury from a car accident or a stroke and you would still be called NT for purposes of differentiating you from AS/AU. Obviously those persons' brains are not typical.

In that case I can give my view, not everyone who is NT is necessarily bad or cruel, most people in a school situation will look up to whoever is the leader, and the leader usually gets there by pushing everyone out of the way to get themselves a reputation... as a lot of people are weak-willed they will almost always stick by their leader, even if they think their leader is wrong, so that they don’t risk losing position themselves... as such, they may be perfectly nice people when away from their pack, just far too weak-willed to stand up to their leader.

A good friend to an AS person will probably be someone who avoids or simply doesn’t care about the packs, because they will almost always be honest, and not just do things to hold their position... which is probably why a lot of AS teens hang around with emos or goths who -usually- don’t simply follow a single leader in their actions.

I think the term is useless--it's just way too broad. My experience with the non-autistic (ie, the vast majority of people whom I associate with) has been all over the place--from mean and unpleasant to compassionate and helpful. It depends on the individual.

It makes me a bit uncomfortable when I see people with AS attacking neurotypical people as a group. If you wouldn't say "My ethnicity / sex / nationality is superior to everyone else's!", why would you say that your mental state is superior ("We are the only ones who can feel real compassion, NT's just pretend.", for example)?

Oh but I have experienced far and broad. The only reason I am not beat up is because no one lays a hand on a girl. However, I have been tried for being gullible, encouraged to pick up used condoms, asked for my phone number for pranks, set up on fake dates, been pelted with food, and all the likes. Now I am in highschool and things are settling down and I am being treated better by the majority so I have faith that there is good in everyone.