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10 Jan 2016, 11:48 am

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Yes, actually, there are many other psychological disorders that can mimic sociopathy. Even manipulative behavior and lack of empathy aren't exclusive to sociopaths. If you are under the control of such a person, I would think it better to try to get along as best you can until you are old enough to get away.


Oppositional defiant disorder, Conduct Disorder, narcissism, Borderline personality disorder, Anti-social personality disorder. All these I can think of that mimic it. They all have something in common, the lack of empathy and manipulation.


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10 Jan 2016, 12:41 pm

It makes no difference to her what you say but if you start pushing her buttons she might get rid of you



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10 Jan 2016, 12:49 pm

^^Maybe if she's as bad as OP says she is then he/she would be better off if she kicked he/she out.^^


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10 Jan 2016, 1:17 pm

Well, I've seen my brother outsmart a Sociopath.


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10 Jan 2016, 3:24 pm

When you say outsmart what exactly do you mean?

What exactly is the problem at hand that you are facing?

Would it not serve you better to just walk away from these people and have nothing more to do with them?


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10 Jan 2016, 3:44 pm

^^^ Yeah, you don't "outsmart" a sociopath. You can only avoid them. If you're trapped in their web, you don't even KNOW, and if you do know, the people around you are trapped in their web and don't believe YOU so you can't get any help.

A sociopath messes with your mind so much you don't even know what reality is. Try outsmarting that.
If there was a way to outsmart a sociopath, then we'd have nothing to worry about getting involved with one. All we'd need to be is smart enough and know the right tools to get away.

I'm pretty darn smart, as are my parents, yet we all became victims of a sociopath who fooled everyone in his life, including therapists and counselors, who thought it would be a good idea to take this kid out of a group home and put him in a family. These people were not all inept and stupid. The sociopath just did what he did best and LIE, LIE, LIE. Such intricate lies as I have never seen since. LIES that I could see, but I couldn't *prove*. LIES that were kept track of so amazingly and brilliantly well that one group of people NEVER LEARNED what the *other* group knew! It didn't matter that I saw a problem because I was a kid, and everyone was so tangled in his web they wouldn't/couldn't listen.

I have known a couple of other people who I also suspect to be sociopaths (but perhaps not as crafty as the one I lived with.) They LIE, LIE, LIE. If you are getting lied to, how do you know you are lied to? Sociopaths *know how to cover their tracks* and will not allow you too see a crack in the veneer that would allow a hint that they are lying. And if you do see through the veneer, it doesn't matter...because you are ALL ALONE with NO ONE TO HELP YOU.



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10 Jan 2016, 4:06 pm

I remember my stepmother being a liar and very dangerous with it but she wasn't right in the head.

She was the complete antithesis of anything good in the world but I wouldn't go so far as to say she was a sociopath.

I would have to credit her with having a brain for that.

I haven't seen her for many years because I went into care as a child but I would expect that she is still the same now.

A leopard doesn't change it's spots.

Some people are just twisted.


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10 Jan 2016, 5:46 pm

Pieplup wrote:
Well, I've seen my brother outsmart a Sociopath.
What do you mean by "outsmart"?

How does a 12-year old kid know enough to say who is a sociopath and who isn't?

You seem to throw the word "sociopath" around like many other people throw around the words "troll", "bully", or "jerk".



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10 Jan 2016, 6:42 pm

OP, I suggest you actually read what a sociopath is.


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10 Jan 2016, 6:59 pm

just for the record, antisocial personality disorder is the same as sociopathy. my psychiatrist suspected that my ex was a sociopath. my ex wasn't a criminal, too smart for that, he was just manipulative and abusive.



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10 Jan 2016, 7:32 pm

Well, after living with one for half my life. It comes naturally to oneself.


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10 Jan 2016, 7:38 pm

Pieplup wrote:
Well, after living with one for half my life. It comes naturally to oneself.
Which brings us back to the original question: How do you "know" that your mother is a sociopath? What qualifies you to make such a diagnosis? What medical degrees have you earned?



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11 Jan 2016, 11:55 am

If she is a sociopath then leave home.



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11 Jan 2016, 12:24 pm

Starfoxx wrote:
If she is a sociopath then leave home.



Uh she's 12 or he. Let's see how that goes.


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11 Jan 2016, 8:46 pm

I once knew an 11-year old girl who called her parents "psychopaths" because they refused to let her wear makeup or have a boyfriend. She ended up as an unwed mother who dropped out of school at 16, and finally got a GED at the age of 20.

I once knew a 12-year old boy who called his parents "ret*ds" because they told him to do his homework, clean his room, and eat his vegetables. He is the one who got the girl pregnant.

The tween years end when the "Sybil" years begin ... :roll:



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11 Jan 2016, 9:36 pm

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As a Aspie Sociopaths are our worst enemy.

My Mother is a sociopath I was wondering is there any way I can trick her into proving herself a Sociopath.
Thanks.


@OP
The real issue here is that she is harming you.
It is not right that she is harming you, whether she is a sociopath or not.

Do you have adults in your life that you can trust?
Do you have adults in your life that know you are being abused?

Do you know someone that can protect you from being abused?