Earn to do math and think for yourselves.....

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iammaz
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13 Jan 2016, 6:19 pm

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Here's some irony for me...
While ranting about people not doing math and critical thinking.....
Well...read the typo on the thread title LOL


It has all been quite amusing.



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13 Jan 2016, 6:21 pm

Yeah, I noticed that too. But everyone makes mistakes.



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13 Jan 2016, 6:42 pm

What's odd is that I laugh when I'm wrong. It has caused confusion. People think I'm argumentative....maybe I am. But if I find fault in logic, I'm going to express it. They may be wrong. I may be wrong. Me being wrong does not make them right.

And if there is a fault in my logic, I am quite amused because I learned something.

As for the typo, I actually struggle to type. I transpose letters many times, even when I am trying not to. I'm not dyslexic, but I always get left and right mixed up, east and west (Even while looking at a map). It's always horizontal, never vertical.

But, yeah, I am amused when I am wrong.....


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13 Jan 2016, 6:47 pm

^ That's better than being embarrassed. I'm usually embarrassed.

I also mixed up my left and right for years. I was in my twenties before I got it right and I'm still sometimes confused. I also get lost easily in new places because I get confused.

But typing is easy for me. All those years of video games maybe?



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13 Jan 2016, 7:00 pm

Maybe on the video games. Oddly I learned to type on the old Remington style typewriters. My speed did not improve when I got on a modern keyboard.

My father has an infallible sense of direction. Me? I'd get lost even if I had the way lit home. I hate going to new places. Once I learn my way around a little bit, I can do ok. And, don't ask me for directions. I only know the way visually. I've worked on a street for 15 years. I always have to stop and think which direction is which if asked, but can just walk out and go there if I'm going. you'd think I'd know by now how to tell people where things are. There is not lack of landmarks in NYC.


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13 Jan 2016, 7:03 pm

Sabreclaw wrote:
Yigeren wrote:
It's not nice to say, but I've found that people in general are stupid. Unfortunately.


Don't recall where I heard it, maybe a George Carlin routine? "Think about how dumb the average human is, and then realize that half the population is even dumber".

naturalplastic wrote:
In all fairness the person who posted that might have been a Brit.

In contrast to the US,where a "billion" means "a thousand times a million", in Britain a billion means "a million millions". What we call a "billion" they just call "a thousand million".

So the person might have thought that the powerball was in British billions. So each American would get 4,333 dollars (a fraction of a new car), and not just four and a third dollars. Though that would still not be 4.333 million.


A million millions? Powerball must be really wealthy that they can afford lottery prizes valued in the trillions.

1.3 billion divided by 300 would make 4.33 million. It's like someone put it in the calculator and forgot about the millions part.


Uh...no.

You're making a variant of the same mistake that the pork head who put that thing on the WEB made that we are talking about.

Ten is 10^1. 100= 10^2, 1000 equals 10^3

A thousand divided by a 100 is ten (when you divide you subtract the exponents). 10 to the 3 divided by ten to the second equals ten^3-2. Or 10^1.

Lets say the powerball is 1.2 billion (to make it simpler).

Since the Powerball is 1.2 billion in American billions it is 1.2 times 10^9.

The American population is 300 million,or three times 10^8.

So it would be 1.2 times ten^9 over 3X10^8. Which would be: 'POINT four times ten to the power of one' in dollars per American (point four times ten, ergo four dollars per person).

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If the powerball were in BRITISH billions then the pot would be 1.2 times ten to the power of 12 (instead of nine). So that would add an extra three digits to the share if it were divided between each American. Which would be...what I said above... four thousand dollars. NOT what YOU said which is four million dollars.

Or you could calculate it the above way: 1.2 times ten to 12th over 3 times ten to the eight. Which would yield "point four times ten to the fourth", or...four thousand dollars.



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13 Jan 2016, 7:19 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
Yigeren wrote:
It's not nice to say, but I've found that people in general are stupid. Unfortunately.


Don't recall where I heard it, maybe a George Carlin routine? "Think about how dumb the average human is, and then realize that half the population is even dumber".

naturalplastic wrote:
In all fairness the person who posted that might have been a Brit.

In contrast to the US,where a "billion" means "a thousand times a million", in Britain a billion means "a million millions". What we call a "billion" they just call "a thousand million".

So the person might have thought that the powerball was in British billions. So each American would get 4,333 dollars (a fraction of a new car), and not just four and a third dollars. Though that would still not be 4.333 million.


A million millions? Powerball must be really wealthy that they can afford lottery prizes valued in the trillions.

1.3 billion divided by 300 would make 4.33 million. It's like someone put it in the calculator and forgot about the millions part.


Uh...no.

You're making a variant of the same mistake that the pork head who put that thing on the WEB made that we are talking about.

Ten is 10^1. 100= 10^2, 1000 equals 10^3

A thousand divided by a 100 is ten (when you divide you subtract the exponents). 10 to the 3 divided by ten to the second equals ten^3-2. Or 10^1.

Lets say the powerball is 1.2 billion (to make it simpler).

Since the Powerball is 1.2 billion in American billions it is 1.2 times 10^9.

The American population is 300 million,or three times 10^8.

So it would be 1.2 times ten^9 over 3X10^8. Which would be: 'POINT four times ten to the power of one' in dollars per American (point four times ten, ergo four dollars per person).

BUT

If the powerball were in BRITISH billions then the pot would be 1.2 times ten to the power of 12 (instead of nine). So that would add an extra three digits to the share if it were divided between each American. Which would be...what I said above... four thousand dollars. NOT what YOU said which is four million dollars.

Or you could calculate it the above way: 1.2 times ten to 12th over 3 times ten to the eight. Which would yield "point four times ten to the fourth", or...four thousand dollars.


I think you're misreading what I said.
1.3 trillion divided by 300 million is 4,333, no arguing there. However, what I said was 1.3 billion divided by 300 is 4.33 million.

My comment about the British pounds was disconnected from the comment after it. Hence, I put a line between them. That second comment was me trying to explain how the picture in the OP got the 4.33 million figure.

I suppose I could have just written:
(1.3 x 10^12) / (3.0 x 10^8) ≈ 4.33 x 10^3
(1.3 x 10^9) / (3.0 x 10^2) ≈ 4.33 x 10 ^ 6

I prefer not to write that stuff out on forums though. I'm well aware on how indices work, in fact I was quite good at that back in highschool. Not sure I remember all the index laws off by heart anymore though. How many was there, eight?

1. a^n x a^m = a^(n+m)
2. a^n / a^m = a^(n-m)
3. (a^n)^m = a^nm
4. a^(-n) = 1/(a^n)
5. (a/b)^n = (a^n) / (b^n)
6. (ab)^n = a^n x b^n
7. a^0 = 1

Damn, that's all I've got. Not sure they're all correct either. Oh well, that should be enough to get by. :P



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13 Jan 2016, 7:21 pm

I think the debate over the American 'Billion' vs. the British 'Billion' is moot as billion is a recognized number constant as 10^9.


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13 Jan 2016, 7:45 pm

Semi-related..

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/arc ... ns/423930/

It would be profitable to buy every ticket combination to win the powerball if there was no split pot.