Psychologists and Asperger's diagnosis?
FizzyOrange wrote:
BeaArthur wrote:
FizzyOrange wrote:
My psychologist said I'm depressed and even said I should be on medication. My psychologist. I'm still trying to afford to go to an actual specialist.
Only gave my own account to demonstrate that it may not go the way you think it does. Also, you shouldn't stop there. There are actual specialists who can help you find real answers.
Only gave my own account to demonstrate that it may not go the way you think it does. Also, you shouldn't stop there. There are actual specialists who can help you find real answers.
A psychologist in most cases cannot prescribe, but they can see that someone needs meds. Is the person you saw a licensed psychologist with a doctorate-level credential? If not, please don't generalize. Many psychologists are quite qualified to diagnose Aspergers or autism spectrum disorders.
I don't know what you mean by "actual specialist." This is not a technical or legal term. The autism field doesn't have a credentialing body as far as I know.
Also your remarks might make more sense in light of your location, but I don't know where that is.
Whoa. I think you are misreading what I said. Some are and some aren't. Especially when it comes to adults who suspect they may have it. This woman isn't a good fit and I can't afford to see someone else. You don't know me nor do you know much about my experience. We have a few specialists here in Houston who specialize in diagnosing adults. The clinic I go to doesn't; they only diagnose children and teens. Please do not presume that you are the official authority on this topic. If you need clarification, you can ask rather than overstate your opinion on something you clearly don't understand in regards to my own knowledge and experience in dealing with this matter.
Fair enough.
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killerBunny wrote:
BeaArthur wrote:
killerBunny: I'm not ignorant on this topic, and I was not feigning naivete. Your syntax and precision with language are poor, so that I genuinely did not know what you were trying to say.
My language requires a certain threshold of intellect which I suppose can burden many readers. If you can't infer meaning, you probably don't meet it. Your initial underhanded questioning of whether I understand the statement made would fall under the category of passive aggressive. I don't usually go out my way like I seem to have in this thread and deal with lemmings but I suppose the topic at hand is rather important.
Wow, that's quite a statement. "A certain threshold of intellect"??? The problem is not the complexity of your argument, but the clarity in which it was conveyed.
I agree with Bea--your writing was unclear enough to make your point difficult to ascertain, especially the bit about "Therapists bell curve has a median index if sh***y." Lack of punctuation and poor grammar made the emphasis confusing, and you didn't connect it clearly to the preceding statements. Since noone was discussing statistical tests, it was a puzzling metaphor. I would not have guessed that your intended meaning was "lack of regulation of therapeutic credentials has resulted in a great deal of variation in expertise, and the standards of diagnosis are pretty subjective." I agree with the meaning once you clarified it, but it was initially very unclear. And before you take potshots at my intellect, I got an A in graduate-level statistics, so yes, I do know what a median index and bell curve is.
Also, you are incorrect about Asperger's not being a diagnosis. It was a diagnosis in the DSM-IV, and still is a diagnosis in the ICD-10. It has been merged with autism in the DSM-V, but one can live independently and receive an autism, Level 1 diagnosis under the DSM-V in adulthood. I did, at age 49. Whether it was worth the trouble remains to be seen, as therapies for older adults with ASD are hard to find, but the diagnosis, at least, is possible.
I agree that one should not try to get a quick diagnosis. Anyone that tries to make a quick diagnosis is behaving irresponsibly--diagnosis is a series of tests and interviews taking several hours, and has to be administered by someone who is qualified to administer such tests. In the US, this would be a clinical psychologist, not a therapist such as an LCSW or psychiatric nurse, although I don't know if this is true for other countries. I would hope therapists are not making diagnoses--they aren't trained for it and should be referring patients to psychologists for that. http://www.autismsource.org has lists of qualified mental health professionals in the US, and you can also ask your insurance company for a referral. http://healthgrades.com allows you to search by specialty and insurance accepted.
To the OP: It would probably be a good idea to get to know your psychologist a bit before you bring up the possibility of ASD. As Ezra said, talk about the symptoms without mentioning ASD. Let him or her observe your behavior as well--don't mask it, but don't exaggerate it either. Just act naturally. A big part of my diagnosis came from the psychologist's observation of my way of speaking and acting, not just what was in the tests.
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