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mrfoggy
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23 Feb 2016, 7:04 am

I have watched Alix Generours on Tedx and some other speaker on that.

I don't think they are conveying they are better than other autism people.
And you can't literally take/believe everything that is on the screen!

What is important on this speakers is they are sharing their stories and the awareness is there.

Again you shouldn't be pessimist about anyone success.


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23 Feb 2016, 7:32 am

mrfoggy wrote:
I have watched Alix Generours on Tedx and some other speaker on that.

I don't think they are conveying they are better than other autism people.
And you can't literally take/believe everything that is on the screen!

What is important on this speakers is they are sharing their stories and the awareness is there.

Again you shouldn't be pessimist about anyone success.


I agree with you. But the exception confirms the rule, and because many people are uneducated about autism they won't realize this when watching these speakers. They'll just assume that "if they can do it, everyone with autism can do it." When the facts show us this is not the case, quite the contrary.

There's this movie called Homeless to Harvard. Based on a true story. Everyone talks about how inspirational it is. They conveniently forget that stories like these are less than 1 in a million. I'm not strictly against being optimistic, but too much optimism can give birth to the idea that the original problem isn't as serious as it really is or fail to acknowledge important details. Another fact: many people with autism claim that they do not receive the support they feel they need. See where I'm getting at?



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23 Feb 2016, 9:25 am

I have not watched any of those videos but as long as they are not saying all autistic people are like this or whatever, then I don't really see the issue. All they are doing is speaking about their experience, they are not exactly qualified to speak about other peoples though. Also those who are more successful will likely speak more about it than someone who is not successful in this way. Also there are different types of success, you shouldn't feel bad that you don't have this type of success (though it is perfectly fine to feel that way) not everyone can be successful in that way. For me personally I failed at living away for university (lasted about a week) but I succeeded in going to uni at a smaller one up which is much more suited to me. I'll never have the typical success of a husband, kids, big house, good job etc but whatever I happen to achieve doesn't mean it's any less/more successful than someone with the typical success or someone that happened to learn to write their name at 18(for example).



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23 Feb 2016, 2:52 pm

The problem I have someone mentioned a little earlier. Is that those not educated about autism is mislead into believing everyone is like the speaker. And we need to address some of the less successful stories and how to help the less fortunate as well.



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24 Feb 2016, 9:28 pm

TheBadguy wrote:
I'm tired of these Autism speakers. Seriously watched a video on YouTube on one of those TedX conferences. Where a person, essentially speaks about how he became successful as an adult with autism. And how people are worried about their kids growing up with Autism.

I am tired of these speakers. I am tired of them saying, look at me I am successful. When they admit, they had the support of their family. The biggest backbone of support. So of course they were successful they were given the tools to succeed...
Not all of us. My family turned its collective back on me when I needed their help. Now that I've put myself through school and developed a lucrative career, one will occasionally contact me, say all kinds of nice things about me, and then mention (in passing) that he or she sure could use a large amount of cash right away. I give them the name of a licensed lending institution and wish them well.

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24 Feb 2016, 11:07 pm

TheBadguy wrote:
The problem I have someone mentioned a little earlier. Is that those not educated about autism is mislead into believing everyone is like the speaker. And we need to address some of the less successful stories and how to help the less fortunate as well.


I can sort of imagine my parents introducing me to someone and saying I was originally diagnosed with severe autism, but have come a long way. And them saying "Oh yeah, then why isn't he like that person I saw on TedX?"