Recent self-diagnosed Asperger's. What do you think?
BioLife wrote:
...It wasn't until I dug a bit deeper and read Tony Attwood's "The Complete Guide to Asperger's Syndrome" that it all started to make sense. Though I understand sarcasm and body language, I have all these other traits and things associate with AS:
-sensory sensitivity (I'm blinded by bright light)
-pedantic use of language (used to correct people's grammar a lot and have been told I speak too formally)
-unusual prosody (I've adopted a somewhat monotone to stand out less, but my natural speech is considered very unusual by most people)
-behind peers socially (I always seem to be catching up and realized social faux pas years later than my peers)
-stimming (I have always been a nail biter and pick at my skin. I've gotten better after becoming aware of it though)
-have been told I'm very "direct" and sometimes "brutally honest" though I didn't really mean to be
-lack of emotional reciprocity (I definitely feel emotions but don't "connect with" or "bond" with people very easily)
-am very intense about my interests, though my interests are generally at least somewhat practical
-have intense emotions
-have always scored above the 99th percentile on math tests
-parent has a mood disorder (this is often associated with AS and ASD)
-mother had a problematic pregnancy with lots of complications
-was born about 3 weeks premature
-mother was 34 years of age at the time of my birth
...
I also am an INTJ personality type and scored a 34 on the AQ test where apparently 80% of people diagnosed with some kind of ASD score 32 or higher.
All this has made me near certain I have AS but am a relatively mild case. I'm wary of self-diagnoses though. Obviously visiting a professional would be the only real way to find out for sure, but I wanted to get input from people here first. Since this is all still new to me, I thought some people with more experience could be of help.
Given what I've described, what do you think? Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
-sensory sensitivity (I'm blinded by bright light)
-pedantic use of language (used to correct people's grammar a lot and have been told I speak too formally)
-unusual prosody (I've adopted a somewhat monotone to stand out less, but my natural speech is considered very unusual by most people)
-behind peers socially (I always seem to be catching up and realized social faux pas years later than my peers)
-stimming (I have always been a nail biter and pick at my skin. I've gotten better after becoming aware of it though)
-have been told I'm very "direct" and sometimes "brutally honest" though I didn't really mean to be
-lack of emotional reciprocity (I definitely feel emotions but don't "connect with" or "bond" with people very easily)
-am very intense about my interests, though my interests are generally at least somewhat practical
-have intense emotions
-have always scored above the 99th percentile on math tests
-parent has a mood disorder (this is often associated with AS and ASD)
-mother had a problematic pregnancy with lots of complications
-was born about 3 weeks premature
-mother was 34 years of age at the time of my birth
...
I also am an INTJ personality type and scored a 34 on the AQ test where apparently 80% of people diagnosed with some kind of ASD score 32 or higher.
All this has made me near certain I have AS but am a relatively mild case. I'm wary of self-diagnoses though. Obviously visiting a professional would be the only real way to find out for sure, but I wanted to get input from people here first. Since this is all still new to me, I thought some people with more experience could be of help.
Given what I've described, what do you think? Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
I think you have done a lot of research into yourself and autism. Congratulations! I sent you a Provate Message (PM) about where you might go from here, if you choose to remain self-identified (not self-diagnosed), or to pursue a diagnosis when you are ready for one.
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ZombieBrideXD wrote:
BioLife wrote:
They're not obvious signs of AS or OCD though since they're not obviously odd.
Keep in mind with a self diagnoses not everyone with ASD is odd or eccentric, a lot of they're problems come from independent functions, forming solid relationships, dealing with stress and change.
My symptoms were pretty well hidden to the untrained eye but one thing that stuck out the most were the other issues caused by ASD. Because of my ASD i had a lot of Executive Functioning Issues, which affect me in my adult life.
The thing with Psychology is its EXTREMELY varied and sometimes things look like one thing but act a completely different way, here are a list of things that can mimic ASD
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder/ Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder
Attenton-Deficit Hyperactive Disorder
Nonverbal Learning Disability
Auditory Processing Disorder
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
Social Anxiety/phobia
Social Communication Disorder
Borderline Personality Disorder
Sensory Processing Disorder
Dependent Personality Disorder
Early Schizophrenia
Brain Damage
Dyslexia
Dyscaluculia
Being a Introvert
Generalized Anxiety Disorder
Child Abuse & neglect
Avoidance Personality Disorder
Antisocial Personality Disorder
Schizoid Personality Disorder
Intellectual Disability
Reactive Attachment Disorder
Developmental Delay
Bipolar Disorder
Giftedness
Executive Functioning Disorder
Childhood Disintegrative Disorder
Tourettes Syndrome
Fragile X Syndrome
Downs Syndrome
Mutism & Selective Mutism
keep in mind a person can have up to 3 or more co-morbid disorders. Many ASD people do for that matter.
I dont know why some people read up on autism and just decide that thats the best fit without looking into other possible causes.
Thanks. I'm aware not everyone with ASD is odd or eccentric, though it's common for people with ASD to be perceived as odd or eccentric. What I explained or meant in my post was that it was not obvious to me that I had AS because all the descriptions online focused so much on relatively severe cases and did not say much about the variation that exists within ASD. I was always like, "Well, I understand body language and sarcasm, so that's obviously not me."
I'm aware of the comorbidities and have looked into this quite a bit before. I know what you mean though. From your list alone I have/am PTSD, introversion, giftedness, child abuse and neglect (not severe though). None of those things are mutually exclusive though, and many are commonly associated with ASD. Most people with AS have above average intelligence and are introverted, for instance, and I believe neglect is also relatively common since a lot of kids on the spectrum are either difficult to handle or seem to do well by themselves. I know that I would play totally alone for hours when I was little. My mother told me many times later in childhood that she could leave me alone for 3+ hours at a time even when I was 4 or 5 years old because of how content I was to play by myself.
Like I say, I think it's been difficult for me to finally realize I have AS because I was aware of a lot of different things in my life but never tied it all together. It wasn't until I read Attwood's "The Complete Guide to Asperger's Syndrome" that everything clicked into place and it all made sense. There were many parts of the book where it was as if it was written specifically about me, and there were many "Ah-ha!" moments where I understood why X, Y, or Z had happened in the past (like in romantic relationships, things the workplace, etc).
I'm not saying I'm certain I have AS, but I've been searching pretty diligently for answers as to why I am the way I am for the past 10 years now, and nothing fits and explains things better or more wholly than AS (and giftedness and C-PTSD). Even if I a qualified professional were to decide I didn't have AS, understanding AS has already helped me immensely, helped me better understand myself, how others perceive me, and how I can better relate to the world and live a more productive and fulfilling life, so at this point I'm not really that hung up on a formal diagnosis. Several people who've gotten to know me well have commented they think I might be on the spectrum, and my cousin upon finding out told me he had never thought of it before but did think it made sense and explained a lot, so it's not just me.
Yigeren wrote:
The DSM-IV is now no longer used for diagnosis. You want to be looking at the DSM-V, and seeing if you meet the criteria. The symptoms must be present in early childhood and cause impairments in daily life.
Asperger's was removed as a separate disorder and is now included under autism spectrum disorder.
Asperger's was removed as a separate disorder and is now included under autism spectrum disorder.
Actually, there was widespread unacceptance of the DSM-V within the psychiatric community when it came out, and Tony Attwood himself says in his book that he strongly dislikes the DSM-V's criteria, feels it's very much wrong, and that he does not use it. Studies also show that around 30% of people already diagnosed with AS would not meet criteria of the DSM-V for ASD.
As for childhood, my traits were much more prominent when I was a kid than they are now because I've become so much more aware of them and have practiced how to seem NT so much. I look back on how I was when I was a kid and teen and laugh because it's so obvious to me now. I was oblivious to it at the time though.
Fnord wrote:
Get a real diagnosis; it's the only way you'll ever know for sure, one way or another.
I will go with this for this reason only:
I have been misdiagnosed or underdiagnosed. Depends on how you look at it. And that was before a lot of common knowledge available now was not available then.
But, having a proper diagnosis will keep you from doing what I have done. Band aid solutions. Treating only the surface and not the real issue. It caught up to me now and is doing real damage to my life. I am awaiting final diagnosis just so I can move forward properly.
I wish you luck. I understand your feelings as I am not much farther along than you are. And, in this thread a huge amount of information. All of it is good.
Really, best of luck.
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Diagnosed April 14, 2016
ASD Level 1 without intellectual impairments.
RAADS-R -- 213.3
FQ -- 18.7
EQ -- 13
Aspie Quiz -- 186 out of 200
AQ: 42
AQ-10: 8.8

