Do NTs creep you out?

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^^That would be a little ironic in my case. I am excessively polite and a pleaser because I am autistic - it's part of my "normie camouflage" that I developed before I was diagnosed, but I overdo it sometimes to the point that even NTs occasionally find it annoying.

I find people fascinating when I am the observer. It's like watching a musical dance number from the 40s. They all laugh at the same time, point at the same time, rise and fall at the same time, they seem to be completely choreographed in everything. A flock of creatures in some chaos driven pattern.

Hate to be the participant though.

Indeed, Zkydz, I feel similarly.

I wish that people would understand that I'm perfectly happy to just be a spectator most of the time, and that I'm not indicating disapproval or trying to spoil their fun. Nor does it mean that I'm depressed and in need of cheering up. No matter how many times I tell them, they seem to think that it's OK to try and pester me into doing things that I'm not comfortable with or don't really understand.

I've seriously lost my self-control in the past when people have, for example, tried to physically drag me onto a dance floor - I get very distressed when touched without permission. When I say "no" I mean "no", and when I say that an activity is not enjoyable for me, they should stop banging on about how it will be "fun" for me once I get stuck in, just because it's what they like. GRrrr!

No they don't creep me out. Only certain people have creeped me out. There used to be a man at my old work who always gave me the creeps and I never knew why. I always got a pedophilia feeling from him but he looked normal to me. It would have been creepier if I looked him up online and found his name on the sex offender list for committing a crime on a minor. I don't even remember his name so I can't look him up anyway and he quit there one day. When I think about my last boyfriend I had, I realize he was also creepy but I just didn't know it then because I was not aware of his agenda and what was going on inside his head. I took everything he said at word and didn't listen to my instincts and I wanted to understand him and not misunderstand so I didn't listen to my feelings thinking I was being paranoid. I also once met one man from online and he was also creepy as heck because of the way he acted around me and the fact he acted very sexual and wanted to masturbate. I never met with him again and I didn't enjoy my time with him, it was very boring. Also online he wouldn't accept the fact I was married and wouldn't take no for an answer when I told him no for sex because I was married and I will not have sex with him and he said my husband can go to bed with us and I told my husband about it and he said "Is he gay?" I asked him that online and he said he wasn't but he figured if he invited him to bed with us, it would be okay to have sex so he wouldn't be jealous. I finally blocked him and then a few years later he sent me an email asking me about AS and I didn't respond because he can do research about it or join an autism forum if he had a question about it and then he added me of Facebook months later and I didn't know who he was until we were chatting on there and he was blocked again after I told him. Now that was creepy and I was very honest with him and direct before blocking him again. I didn't care if it would hurt his feelings or not. But I also felt sad for him because he didn't seem to get how inappropriate he acted because his last response was "I dunno, we met at the mall" as if I said nothing to him.

And also what I find creepy is how some people act at train stops or on the train like that one woman who claimed how phones and computers mess with her head and screamed at everyone to turn them off or some other man threatening to kill himself if he didn't get food and then he was back to normal after a teen sitting across from me gave him some money and he never got off the train for food, also that one guy who got mad when no one had a cell phone for him to use to call his girlfriend so he started to talk about how someday the whole world will blow up and he will be the only one alive or some woman getting upset when some man tapped her on the shoulder and she screamed at him but the creepy part was when she went on and on about it being a broken record after she had already said it and there was one woman who was saying homophobic things while we were waiting for the train.

All of those sound like the acts of a deranged person, not a 'normal' NT person. Those are some really wacka-doodle examples. I think any of those would creep anybody out. Blech.....

And, yeah, I've seen some strange, I mean really strange behaviour on the trains.

Creep me out, no. But confound me, yes. As one poster said, flirting completely baffles me. Why you need to be so damn fake and uber-interested in every single thing a person says because you're courting them, I have no idea why. The fake-looking interest, especially when it's clear the listener couldn't give a ^%$#@ about what the party is talking about, bothers me. And then the usual social BS just plain out frustrates me.

I'm NT and depending on my mood I'm creeped out by others like me. If I'm feeling really outgoing and in the mood to socialize, it doesn't bother me and I just use the social stuff to get it out of the way and try and drill down into a meaningful conversation with someone else. I'm pretty good at it.

But when I'm not feeling it, I find the social niceties so annoying. I live in a smaller Midwestern town where you're supposed to smile when you come across ANYONE. This is exhausting even for me. And small talk feels forced and exhausting sometimes too. Sometimes I feel RELIEVED to have someone start talking about the weather, because it means we've entered a script where everyone knows their lines and we all have common ground. Other times I'll hear it start and just wish it would be over and we could stop trying to force this interaction.

The more time I spend with people on the spectrum, the more exhausting I find NTs. It feels GOOD to let down those defenses and just "you do you" together.

I'm glad you said that! I am similar in my expression of autism. Because I don't have that social sixth sense thing I go by rules I work out so that I can try to do the right thing, be reasonable, always be polite, work hard etc. Because of this I tend to stick exactly to all the rules I'm given unless I think they are immoral (by this I mean unless a rule I'm told conflicts with a larger body of evidence which suggests that it's a 'bad' rule. For example, when I was working in a big company where one of the core values was integrity I was told explicitly by my team leader to lie to my customers (senior managers in the same company) about the progress of a software platform I was building for them. I felt that his direction was shady and underhand and didn't agree with it. We had a bit of a to-do about it and I ended up agreeing to say nothing about progress but not to lie. I was still really stressed about that.)

I think though, for me, this is not part of NT camouflage but just how I am able to get by. It's an almost obsessional adherance to this set of rules I've worked out for social things but includes following the law of my country and following the guidance of my faith. Most days my most strong desire is to find out what is the right thing to do and then to do it. My biggest stressors are when I don't know what is right or when I can't do it (usually due to physical difficulties.)

Yeah there are always creepy people on public transportation. Those people might be mentally ill though.

And I also knew a guy at my job who creeped me out bc I got the feeling he was a pedophile. There was something so extremely fake about him that it disturbed me. Of course, most people would just say he was really nice. He gave me the creeps and I always tried to avoid him.

NTs don't creep me out unless they're doing something that most would consider creepy.