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23 Apr 2007, 10:47 pm

Another issue this raises is something I read alot here of how people feel they do not fit in. Like there is a thread in the WP Discussion area now where members want a forum
area just for older aspies. Others in the past wanted a womens and a mens group. People want forum just for their obsessions. Members post in the haven how they feel they do not belong here. Others say there are clicks here.

So my theory this is all related to AS making people feel they do not belong and some how they think the changes they suggest will suddenly make them feel that since of belonging they want. In some case it may in the short term but my guess is long term
that since of not belong will return.

So the solution is when you get that feeling you do not belong instead of having a negative thought just let it leave your mind and do not worry about feeling that belonging feeling as it is not in your nature.



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23 Apr 2007, 10:50 pm

A lot of people are so primed for not fitting in that they assume the worst about any new place, even if it's a place they might really fit in.


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23 Apr 2007, 10:55 pm

TheMachine1 wrote:
... So my theory this is all related to AS making people feel they do not belong ....

quite right.

Billiscool, you haven't been around here long enought to know, but TM1 (themachine1) is a guru.

There are frequently posts from members who say they are not AS enough to belong here and others that they are too AS.

There are hundreds of members posting here. I think most are too average for you to have noticed :?


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23 Apr 2007, 11:05 pm

BazzaMcKenzie wrote:
Billiscool, you haven't been around here long enought to know, but TM1 (themachine1) is a guru.


Did you notice that He joined over 5 months BEFORE you?



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23 Apr 2007, 11:08 pm

SteveK wrote:
BazzaMcKenzie wrote:
Billiscool, you haven't been around here long enought to know, but TM1 (themachine1) is a guru.


Did you notice that He joined over 5 months BEFORE you?

No, but you're right.

I noticed Feb & 36 posts, so I guess I assumed Feb 07.

silly me.

So if he has been an observer for that long, I would have to think differently about his attitude. On the other hand, he may not have been about much.

BTW, I don't disagree with your comments about positive v negative attitudes.


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23 Apr 2007, 11:09 pm

SteveK wrote:
BazzaMcKenzie wrote:
Billiscool, you haven't been around here long enought to know, but TM1 (themachine1) is a guru.


Did you notice that He joined over 5 months BEFORE you?


I think he means based on his post count he has not been around much.



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23 Apr 2007, 11:19 pm

The guy says he was a little upset; give him a break. (Please?)



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23 Apr 2007, 11:41 pm

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The guy says he was a little upset; give him a break. (Please?)

I guess you have a female mothering type attitude :?

There is a lot to be said for adopting a positive attitude though.

BTW Trish (double checking your start date, you are the newbee, not Billiscool :lol:), we haven't met before, so welcome to WP. :D


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24 Apr 2007, 12:35 am

Thanks, Bazza!

I do have my bitchy times too, but try to keep them to myself (I always feel like I'm imposing on people - it's a fault of mine).

Mothering/nurturing? Maybe. I'll have to think about that. Yeah, it's gotta be true to some extent though I've only ever been a 'mom' to a pet. I don't like it when I perceive (& note it's a matter of my perception; I'm not saying it's necessarily always true) somebody's being pushed-around or put down. I had too much of that myself & am sensitive to it.



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24 Apr 2007, 12:43 am

I'm an average Aspie female, and I'm damn proud of it. I may be a dim light with my 115 IQ, compared to most of the people, here who score in the 120s' 30s' and even the 140s', but I really don't care. And I'd also like to put acrossed you, that it's not just guys who have AS. Girls have it, too.



24 Apr 2007, 1:39 am

I have a learning disability so lot of assignments is hard for me in school. I also don't have any savant skills and acute sense of anything. I suck at math but I can do little algebra. I am also no artist.



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24 Apr 2007, 2:50 am

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Mothering/nurturing? Maybe. I'll have to think about that. Yeah, it's gotta be true to some extent though I've only ever been a 'mom' to a pet. I don't like it when I perceive (& note it's a matter of my perception; I'm not saying it's necessarily always true) somebody's being pushed-around or put down. I had too much of that myself & am sensitive to it.



By the way,this has actually been written about aspies,(inspite of the stereotype that we are insensitive to others,self centered in general....hello....Aut=self),we have also been said to be very protective and supportive to the "under dogs""the vulnerable"and the "oppressed".....I have seen evidence of it here.It is one attribute that, my mother has said, I have had since I was 5(and fishing bugs out of the swimming pool as a self appointed "bug life guard")



As to the topic of the OP.......I am 43,have an average intellegence(I think)and have worked nothing but menial labor type jobs my whole life.I am "book smart" and "people stupid" and never made over 20,00. a year.

Some days.....I really feel "ret*d" because I cant understand somethings.....and then I go to work and get told to do the most illogical and ineffecient things by a manager with worse people skills then I have,IMO.

There are a veriety of As levels of skills and intelligence and another level of our ability to use them to our advantage(or not).If you are only noticing the extreams,then it is because that is what pattern you are looking for.As far as the medias portrail of AU/AS......they give people what they think they want.....extreams.Would anybody have watched Jerry Springer if it only had people who were upset at their spouse for not taking out the garbage instead of sleeping with the neighbors dog?"Extream "sells.


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24 Apr 2007, 3:10 am

i agree that people tend to follow what makes the biggest emotional splash in regarads to NT culture...


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24 Apr 2007, 4:52 am

A culture? I often get the impression that we have less in common with each other than we do with NTs generally. I remember when I first found this place, I exclaimed "my people!" But then every other answer to threads I had started entitled along the lines of "how many of you...?" would make me go "huh!?!?!" 8O There can't possibly be another group where its membership has more variegated sets of idiosyncrasies per person. It's like what we have in common is but in the abstract, on paper.

Not that that's bad or I'm sore. It's just how it seems to me.



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24 Apr 2007, 4:52 am

i feel like the OP , but then again i may not have aspergers , it hasnt been officially diagnosed . when the idea of aspergers was mentioned by my psych i was like no way , to me an aspergers person was high function , excelled at there job and was highly respected despite being a little quirky in the eyes of some people , i dated someone once who i would say was quite possibly aspergers he was well educated and confident in his abilities and performed well at work . I am not like that at all. my thinking is confused and i feel i am forever searching for my purpose in life and my career niche . i have high anxiety and depression so i do not feel in the least bit confident and succesfull , when i arrived on this forum i read posts and whilst i can relate to many of the actual symptons eg stimming hypersenitivity , lack of ability to read facial expressions and many others i cannot relate to the overall picture of dedicated acedemics and people who are filled with such passion about extremly intricate and detailed pasttimes and obsessions . So should it turn out that i am an aspie for sure , i will likely feel as out of place here as i do in the rest of my life . I just wanted to say this so that bill doesnt feel so alone in his aloneness, because hes not .
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24 Apr 2007, 5:07 am

I'm not gifted, well at least my gift is well masked. I didn't really get consistent grades. Would get every type F-A+. Overall very average. I went to university on an off for 5 years and quit in my final year. I just couldn't take it anymore it wasn't me. They gave me a cirtificate for my time, you could get that from a 6 month course. I'm not going to bother collecting it. If you’re like me you probably prefer teaching yourself stuff and learning at your own pace.