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11 Apr 2016, 11:56 am

Not a germaphobe by any means, so that aspect doesn't bother me. You spend time on a farm with animals and all the attendant dirt and other things such as help butchering animals, you have a different level of tolerance. Maybe even a boosted immune system because of all that exposure.

But while I can tolerate hand shaking, I have other objections to it. It's as convoluted to me as conversation. How long, how strong, the idiots that try to get the 'better grip' and hurt the fingers, how vigorous, or the people that do the left handed 'lady shake' (OK, I know that sounds crass, but it's the only visual I have to describe it...work with me here) or worse...the combo hand shake (Yes, still get those sometimes) or the odd 'hand shake' where people grab the elbows, pull you in for a part hug/part 'arm shake'.

But as mentioned, much better than any further form of contact. I really detest the hug and kiss greeting.


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11 Apr 2016, 12:06 pm

I don't like handshakes for two reasons: I am am a germaphobe, and I don't do them properly.

It's too hard for me to figure out how long to shake a person's hand, and in what manner I should do it. It usually feels awkward.



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11 Apr 2016, 1:58 pm

zkydz wrote:
Not a germaphobe by any means, so that aspect doesn't bother me. You spend time on a farm with animals and all the attendant dirt and other things such as help butchering animals, you have a different level of tolerance. Maybe even a boosted immune system because of all that exposure.

But while I can tolerate hand shaking, I have other objections to it. It's as convoluted to me as conversation. How long, how strong, the idiots that try to get the 'better grip' and hurt the fingers, how vigorous, or the people that do the left handed 'lady shake' (OK, I know that sounds crass, but it's the only visual I have to describe it...work with me here) or worse...the combo hand shake (Yes, still get those sometimes) or the odd 'hand shake' where people grab the elbows, pull you in for a part hug/part 'arm shake'.

But as mentioned, much better than any further form of contact. I really detest the hug and kiss greeting.


Don't have to be a germophobe to be smart. Farm germs & dirt germs are not the same germs as the ones traded through handshakes. Cold / respiratory viruses are miserable & the flu is even worse - and they require transmission from a human host via mucus. People on farms tend to not have as much contact with other humans as say, an office worker, so they tend to not get sick as often.

Always carry a cup of coffee in your right hand. It stops most of the "grab and pull you in" people and can even be used as a feigned-awkwardness prop to avoid a handshake. Just reach toward the person with the cup still in your hand, then obviously & verbally "realize" what you are doing and laugh at yourself. Give the person a head nod instead. Run away if possible.


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11 Apr 2016, 2:07 pm

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Don't have to be a germophobe to be smart. Farm germs & dirt germs are not the same germs as the ones traded through handshakes. Cold / respiratory viruses are miserable & the flu is even worse - and they require transmission from a human host via mucus. People on farms tend to not have as much contact with other humans as say, an office worker, so they tend to not get sick as often.
Maybe, but I've always had a very robust immune system. My family was split up when I was two and my father got custody of me when I was 4. My father moved a lot to different areas of the country and even out of country once. My mother and stepfather eventually bought their own land and set up a small farm/animal thing. Even before that we would drive to St. Augustine from Jacksonville to work at various family members places and butchering stuff. So maybe all that moving around helped. I dunno.

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Always carry a cup of coffee in your right hand. It stops most of the "grab and pull you in" people and can even be used as a feigned-awkwardness prop to avoid a handshake. Just reach toward the person with the cup still in your hand, then obviously & verbally "realize" what you are doing and laugh at yourself. Give the person a head nod instead. Run away if possible.
I'll have to incorporate that. Can't walk around the halls of the school with coffee because of the no drinks rule in the labs, but I'll cobble something up.

I can't feign a proper sneeze into my hand because of the way I naturally sneeze (big and loud) or that would work....LOL


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11 Apr 2016, 2:10 pm

I have trouble knowing how hard to squeeze. What is 'firm' vs. 'too hard'? And even if I learn it once, I'm not sure if I could replicate that exact level of pressure every time. I have no instinct for that.



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11 Apr 2016, 2:14 pm

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I have trouble knowing how hard to squeeze. What is 'firm' vs. 'too hard'? And even if I learn it once, I'm not sure if I could replicate that exact level of pressure every time. I have no instinct for that.
And it gets even more confusing when you go from someone with a strong handshake to someone with a weak one. It's the same processing delay and discomfort I have with conversation. And it always has to follow me trying to pick up some cue from the other person and I can't do that on the fly.


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11 Apr 2016, 2:16 pm

I managed to teach myself how to do a proper handshake. This is kind of embarrassing but when I was young I didn't know you're supposed to always use your right hand, and I'm left-handed so I'd naturally stick my left out to the right-hander and we'd both get mixed up Go figure.

If it's true handshakes got started as a way of showing you were friendly by having no weapons in your dominate hand, then I could just hide the weapons behind my back in my left hand while holding out my right one. How sinister that would be. Mmm he he heh. :twisted:

Personally, I'm more worried about the germs than anything else. But they see you slather on the Purelle right afterwards they're probably going to think that's rude. It's like that time my mother offered me a sip of her beverage with her drinking straw, and I tried to explain as politely as I could why I didn't want to, and she got all huffy, though she might have just been kidding.

I read that in the States some schools have forbidden hugging, kissing, or even handshakes. The principals said friendly contact too often gets unfriendly is a second and handshakes are often gang signs. That sound a bit like nonsense to me. I guess soon it'll be like we're all living in India where you'll get fined for just kissing in public, even at your own wedding.



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11 Apr 2016, 2:30 pm

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If it's true handshakes got started as a way of showing you were friendly by having no weapons in your dominate hand, then I could just hide the weapons behind my back in my left hand while holding out my right one. How sinister that would be. Mmm he he heh. :twisted:


Sinister literally means 'left-handed', referring to the sort of evil people who would think up such a thing!



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11 Apr 2016, 2:33 pm

Try to do anything social with the left hand in many Middle Eastern cultures. That would be a big no-no.


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11 Apr 2016, 2:55 pm

I don't like handshakes, but only because my hands are chronically sweaty, and I feel bad for the person who has to touch them.


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11 Apr 2016, 6:36 pm

I cringe at handshakes because of my OCD. I usually tell them I prefer not to shake their hands, that it is nothing personal. If they persist I mention OCD. I think the worst is doctors, the last person I want to shake hands with, someone who has been shaking sick people's hands all day long, yuck.



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11 Apr 2016, 7:27 pm

I don't touch people and I don't like being touched.


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11 Apr 2016, 9:01 pm

zkydz wrote:
Try to do anything social with the left hand in many Middle Eastern cultures. That would be a big no-no.


I think it's a Muslim tradition, as well.


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11 Apr 2016, 9:11 pm

If someone extends their hand, I see it as too invasive...usually I say "hi" or stare instead.


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11 Apr 2016, 9:18 pm

Edenthiel wrote:
zkydz wrote:
Try to do anything social with the left hand in many Middle Eastern cultures. That would be a big no-no.


I think it's a Muslim tradition, as well.
Considering that most of those laws were developed in the Middle east, it would not surprise me. Many of those laws have a great validity on them as a way to curb disease (Dietary and hygiene), proper procreation (no incest, stds), settle differences with fewer distrusts (common customs dictated) etc.

A Pakistani I used to work with educated me on this and it dates back to long ago days before modern amenities, keeping hands clean, diet and social interactions. The left hand is for hygienic reasons only. It's the dirty hand. The right hand is for eating and social interactions as it will always be clean. He said it also had to do with conservation of water and not contaminating water supplies in areas that had very little water.


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11 Apr 2016, 9:43 pm

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Does anyone else loathe this custom? I hate shaking hands with people. I don't like the texture of someone else's hand in mine, and mine are always so limp because of it. And how long am I supposed to shake hands with someone? God, why can't I live in Japan and just bow to people?


It is a gesture of dubious hygiene. It is a way of spreading germs and disease. The Japanese have the right idea; bowing and the -intake- of breath.


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