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SamuraiSaxen
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27 Apr 2007, 11:41 am

Sometimes I prefer sleeping at afternoon and living at night, it's hard for me sleeping at night when I want to do something interesting. Yesterday I had an argue with my dad about this.



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27 Apr 2007, 3:55 pm

I agree with a lot of responses. Lots of trouble getting to sleep at night, but then I stay asleep. My brother does too, though. He is dyslexic, but other than that he is NT.



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27 Apr 2007, 4:10 pm

I fell asleep before. Then I woke up all disorientated and confused, thinking I had an exam to go to. Then my mum told me it was 9pm and I don't have another exam 'till Monday. I shouldn't sleep during the day; it just confuses me.



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27 Apr 2007, 4:13 pm

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Does anyone else have difficulty gettting too sleep or staying asleep! i often find i only need 5-7 hours a night but actually geetting to sleep is another issue completly, i often lie awake for 2 maybe 3 hours before drifting off! anyone got ideas ?


Very very much so. I don't think I've ever been in bed for less than an hour before I finally actually fall asleep. Waking up is also very difficult.


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27 Apr 2007, 4:16 pm

According to 'sleep-experts' you've got sleeping problems in case you can't get into sleep within ten minutes.

We all have a problem... 8)



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27 Apr 2007, 4:17 pm

ive been sleeping with the light on latley. i dont know why i guess i want to make sure im still alive :D


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27 Apr 2007, 4:18 pm

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According to 'sleep-experts' you've got sleeping problems in case you can't get into sleep within ten minutes.

We all have a problem... 8)


Ten minutes? Geez... I would never have imagined most people could get to sleep within a half hour, let alone ten minutes!



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27 Apr 2007, 4:20 pm

Sopho_Soph wrote:
I fell asleep before. Then I woke up all disorientated and confused, thinking I had an exam to go to. Then my mum told me it was 9pm and I don't have another exam 'till Monday. I shouldn't sleep during the day; it just confuses me.


That totally happens to me! Or, I'll wake up in the middle of the night, look at the clock, see it's around 2 or so, and think it's 2 in the afternoon, and that I've slept through all my classes! Takes me a while to get oriented. Somehow the fact that it's dark outside doesn't seem to register.



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27 Apr 2007, 4:45 pm

LostInSpace wrote:
Sopho_Soph wrote:
I fell asleep before. Then I woke up all disorientated and confused, thinking I had an exam to go to. Then my mum told me it was 9pm and I don't have another exam 'till Monday. I shouldn't sleep during the day; it just confuses me.


That totally happens to me! Or, I'll wake up in the middle of the night, look at the clock, see it's around 2 or so, and think it's 2 in the afternoon, and that I've slept through all my classes! Takes me a while to get oriented. Somehow the fact that it's dark outside doesn't seem to register.

I do that too! Sometimes I actually dream that my mum has come into my room and told me to get up and get ready, so I'll get up and go to brush my teeth or something, only to realise it's 3am. I usually have my curtains closed in my room, so when I'm really sleepy I don't always notice if it'a completely dark outside.



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28 Apr 2007, 1:44 am

Yes, I have had troubles sleeping, but now I find if I put a heat pack either side of me and a really dark mask over my eyes I can drift off fairly well. I am extremely light sensitive, so perhaps that was the real problem for me though?



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28 Apr 2007, 1:52 am

OMG I am a major insomniac and I have been for four years now! I don't get to sleep until about 6 in the morning and then, I'll only be asleep for three hours or so. Right now it's 2:51 AM and my mom and I are leaving later this morning at 6:15, right around when I'd be falling asleep. That means I'm most likely going to be very cranky when I'm manning the garage sale and any little thing could set me off. Yeah, it's going to be a looooong day...



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28 Apr 2007, 4:18 am

I have that problem too. It doesn't bother me much - I simply use it as a time to gather my thoughts of the day and plan tomorrow.



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28 Apr 2007, 6:32 am

Sleeping?

Camomile tea works wonders for me even though I don't really use it. Its strange, maybe something psychosomatic. Sleeping pills or anything like that doesn't work but the tea.

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28 Apr 2007, 1:33 pm

In my line of work, 80% of the time I do not have to get up early in the AM and I can sleep as late as I need. Generally, my bedtime is between midnite and 1 a.m. and I'll wake anywhere between 7:30 and 8:30. On those occasions, I sleep like a baby!

However, 20% of the time I need to wake early, and on those nights I have a real hard time sleeping. I'll wake after about 1-1/2 to 2 hours and toss and turn, knowing that I HAVE TO GET SOME SLEEP!! The whole process is so unnerving that I get totally screwed up because of it.

Nothing helps, not even sleeping pills, because I KNOW I HAVE TO GET UP EARLY.



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28 Apr 2007, 2:52 pm

I don't know why but I sleep better in the day that at night. I usually go to sleep at 3am - 4 am and get up at 12:00 PM. I tried to adjust the timing by going to sleep early but I can't sleep, 2 days ago I was tired and was able to sleep at 11:00PM but then I woke up at 2:00 AM and tried to get back to sleep again and I couldn't until about 6:00AM I was able to sleep again when it was daylight.

Last night I had a very hard time going to sleep because of my leg movement stimming, my legs were a little sore because of an exercise done before, one leg got tired I had to turn over in bed and move the other leg and got tired, finally after several hours I was able to relax my legs and then continue the stimming and I was able to sleep.



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29 Apr 2007, 2:03 pm

"I don't suffer from insomnia, I enjoy every minute of it"

If if remember it right there are five cycles you brain goes through at night, each one up to 90 minutes. Most people sleep 7h 30min or less a day. It is assumed that the average person takes 30min to get to sleep. This is why people think they need eight hours a day of sleep.

I have problems with sleep too. I can't get my brain to shut down in order to sleep, and I sometimes don't go to sleep at all if I have a new idea I want to think about. This is part of my ADD. I decided to start reading about and experimenting with sleep schedules in 2004 to see what I could learn. Some people have a sleep schedule that is out of phase with everyone else, so they sleep better at different times of the day. This is thought to be a survival trait from the past when there was an advantage to a group if a few individuals were awake and able to alert others about a threat. So a few people with sleep disorders may have resulted in increased survival of a group. Today it is just a problem though. Others do not have a 24 hour sleep schedule.

I experimented with a 28 hour day for a few weeks and it was easier than a 24 hour day, but I had to start classes. I also began experimenting with a reduced sleep schedule. I managed to get down to 4h 15min a day without being too tired. The less I slept, the more food I ate. If I worked/exercised for an hour, I usually had to sleep an hour longer the next day. I then tried a polyphase sleep schedule. I couldn't do it. The idea of polyphase sleep is that you sleep for short intervals many times a day, and that it makes people more efficient because the are getting their brain "reset" every four hours. It is possible for someone to sleep two hours a day for months at a time with no significant health problems, and possibly better mental performance in some. If you want to spend as much time awake as possible, are healthy and not growing, then this is a good option.



Stuff I've learned from experience that may or may not apply to others: (Some of this may be common sense, or stupid):


Caffeine causes me to stay awake longer.

Eating a meal before sleeping helps me go to sleep earlier.

Sleeping on a flat surface such as a floor helps.

Exercising or being in a stressful situation/environment before sleeping helps.

Having a set sleep schedule, no matter what type of pattern it is, is better than a changing schedule with no pattern.

Food consumption is inversely proportional to amount of sleep. When I nearly cut my sleep time in half, the food I ate nearly doubled.

If you sleep less you may crave certain foods that will replace what you body would make if you were sleeping, or repair your body in place of sleep. This in normally some type of vitamin and protein deficiency. The ability to process food may be less efficient.

Find how much sleep you really get. For me it is around 4h 45min to 5h 30min. Make yourself sleep during that time by setting an alarm, and going to sleep at that set time before the alarm. after two to four sleep cycles your brain should adapt to it. Later you may not need an alarm.

If you give yourself less time to sleep then you body with adapt by resting less. If you set aside eight hours to sleep then your brain will know that it has eight hours and will not start sleeping until later.

Sleeping in small amount several times a day is much more efficient that sleeping once a day. Similar to eating one big meal a day vs. eating five or six small ones. The maximum time that someone can sleep efficiently is around 16 hours in a 48+ hour day. The minimum time for many people is 20min to an hour. Some people can sleep as little as 15min at a time.