Neonazis and Aspies?

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There is supposed to be a demonstrated correlation between the authoritarian personality and fascist political beliefs and behaviour. I think there may be a certain amount of validity in that, however that body of psychological inquiry arose out of the aftermath of the World War II.

Personality and belief systems are not a direct consequence of neurology, of course, and the evidence for that is absolutely overwhelming: for example no-one would maintain that all neurotypicals hold only one political philosophy. The neurology of Aspergers doesn't correlate with any political leaning either (witness the contentious PPR!)

Though I think I can see why you were annoyed; individual behaviour of a gross kind feeds the "tar them all with the same brush" mentality, and we have seen cruel applications of that simplistic nonsense in many varieties. The one that we are all potential serial killers is the most obnoxious, a stark form of illogical and unfair prejudice. Most of us are not, as most neurotypicals are not; (that crime can be reduced purely to a neurological type is reductionist nonsense full stop, not all that far away from the "bumps on the head identify criminals" nonsense of the phrenology promoters).

We can't know (at least from what you say) whether that particular guy was trying to conflate AS with neo-nazism; if he was, then he's trying to evade responsibility for and criticism of his political view, indifferent to the potential impact on others, and that's what political cowards tend to do, they look for and seize upon self-serving justifications to oppress others. I wonder why he did mention it.

He was under arrest and was going to stand trial for terroristic threats. I think he was trying to find excuses for his anti-social behavior. He kept on talking about his constitutional rights. (Those rights were taken away from people in Germany after the Nazis took over.) He told the judge that he was sorry for his actions and he "knew they were wrong." Afterwards, though, he was still spewing the same garbage as before. No one believed he was really sorry for what he did. Basically, he's a waste of oxygen, not contributing anything to this world except his foul mouth, his excrement and his flatulence. Ironically, a DNA test showed that he was 16% sub-Saharan African. He had black ancestors.

Also, there was a criminal attack on the Overland Park, MO Jewish Community Center several years ago. Three people were killed - all Christians. The criminal who killed them said, "I wanted to kill me some Jews." Ironically, he had spoken with the above-mentioned Neo Nazi the day before.

The kid was nine and ten when I knew him and he was even kicked out of school for it before he turned ten. But the kid's version was he was being picked on so his parents took him out but his mom's version was they said he couldn't come back and then I found out he was bullying kids in his new school so that is why he doesn't get bullied there because he bullies them. So that makes me think he did the same behavior at his public school and got kicked out. I am sure he wasn't lying when he said his parents took him out, he probably did think they did. But because of the way he treated my brothers behind my back and lied about it and lied about other things too, I just can't believe anything he says like when he claimed he got bullied in school so he fought back and my ex boyfriend happened to know him too so I got more information about him from my ex and both stories were similar but what I saw was what a liar Frankie was because he was the bully, not the victim as he claimed to be.

I have no idea what he is like today like if he grew out of this stuff or if he went to prison or ever got charged with assault. I heard his parents got divorced but he wasn't the main reason, there were other problems too. My mom and his dad worked in the same hospital so that was how we met and that was how my mom knew some stuff about him I never saw him do like bullying kids in his school and breaking things at home. But he also bragged to me about the s**t he does for whoever makes him mad and said he broke disabled kid's bones and he was nine when he told me this unless it was one of his lies. He also told me he broke things in his home to get his way. And he has been hospitalized several times too. I guess my mom told me all these things so I wouldn't be confused anymore and that he also got consequences to his actions, the hospital. If I want to go there, then do what he does. If not, don't be abusive.

Be glad if he's out of your life.

Aspies are no different from anybody else. Some are good and some are evil.

It seems like a lot of criminals or their lawyers on news reports say that they have "Asperger Syndrome."

I imagine there are members of ISIS that are aspies, we are apart of the full spectrum of humanity from good to bad.

I guess we either hear about the savants or the criminals. The news doesn't seem to pay attention to the everyday run-of-the-mill Aspie. People always ask, "But aren't all Aspies geniuses?" Or I hear on the news that the murderer of all of the school children had Asperger Syndrome. Maybe, but he also had other problems.

Yes, the media likes to present extremes as though they were representative, especially about any group that relatively lacks power.

Not neccessarly The Nazis did have what amounted to special education for those that had a usefull skill(s) and were less severe.

Unfortunatly I can see the appeal of the seemingly "scientific" eugenics to an autitstic looking to find blame.

Last edited by ASPartOfMe on 28 May 2016, 12:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I have seen the "Autism Defense" used a few times but it is not an everyday occurrence, at least not yet anyways.

The guy you are describing sounds like a sociopath misdiagnosed as an aspie, it does happen. A diagnosis of ODD is often followed by a diagnosis of APD once they are older.

I have never heard of this. Can you please give me a source?

According to the website for Autism Speaks, one characteristic of Aspies is that they are very honest. One really has to be able to read a person to get them to believe a lie.

Book "In A Different Key: The Story Of Autism" by John Donvan and Carol Zucker. I will give you more specifics if I have the time.

If you have time, can you give me some websites?