This kid gets it...why don't other people?

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Here's a funny article. In an attempt to show that correlation does not equal causation, this individual tracked the rise of 'organic produce sales' and it also matched the rise in Autism cases LOL

http://io9.gizmodo.com/on-correlation-c ... 1494972271

So, taking information from a discredited medical doctor that had been stripped of his license for falsifying the data on the study linking Autism and Vaccinations, almost 20 years after the fact, just mystifies me.

The problem isn't that they get the disease. The problem is that they spread the disease to those too young or unable to get a vaccination.

That is dangerous. Especially when the people themselves are older. Like the college outbreaks that have happened at one time or another lately.

These diseases are dangerous to adults. Much more so than children.

HA!!


Though while not linked to Vaccines and Autism, it does point to how ignorant people are.

I agree with you and I understand that. What I still don't understand, even after reading the articles, is how do vaccinated people get the disease from them? If you were properly vaccinated and got all the boosters on schedule and you still get sick, than the vaccine did not work.

Many vaccines will wear off over time. That is why you have to get tetanus shots every so often.

Adults that have been immunized may not be fully immune when exposed to a fully virulent strain after many years.

LOVE THAT!! !

Oh, ok, that makes sense now. Thank you for helping me understand this.

It is my sincere pleasure

I just follow this stuff. My morning routine is to suck up all the news I can from various sources to find biases and cross reference things to correlate the actual, 'truth' (such as that may be) and then I hit the science sections big time.


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Oh yeah...many diseases, viral or bacterial, will mutate a bit over time. That is why we have yearly flu vaccines.

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That is a very practical interest. It is a very good one.

What's really bad about this is that the Anti-Vaxxers are getting much more aggressive by actually stalking, calling for murder and Doxxing people.

I had to look it up so:

Doxxing is searching for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the Internet, typically with malicious intent.

It really is bad. Here is a link to the dangers of not vaccinating people and many of the articles talk about the lengths these people will go to.

https://www.google.com/search?q=anti+va ... 8&oe=utf-8

That is pretty scary.

It is. And, unfortunately, the internet gives them this power. As I get older, I just find people to be scarier and scarier.

It's hard to believe this obvious myth/hoax is still believed by anyone.

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That's a great video. I like the way he goes about educating people.

Zkydz: Yet AGAIN, we are on the same page. I JUST shared this today or yesterday.

SkiBum: Vaccines are very effective. But there are a couple ways someone could become sick even if they have been vaccinated. 1. Sometimes a person's immune system simply cleans out the vaccine instead of converting it into an immunity (in the simplest way to explain possible). Hep B, for me, is one. I have been vaccinated 3 times (which is a series of vaccinations), and have never 'converted' to show immunity. So now, when it becomes required, I tell them "I don't convert", which means that I do not develop immunity. 2. Also, there have been times where the formula has been changed in a vaccine (which happened about 20 years ago with both Pertussis and Chicken Pox), and the vaccine is not as effective long term. Some kids will then become infected, especially those that are naturally immunocompromised (my sister was one, she had chicken pox and subsequently shingles at 5 even though vaccinated. She also had whooping cough at 16 due to this decreased formula and a compromised immune system). 3. Some kids get a vaccine, convert the vaccine to an acquired immunity, and STILL get an infection. In those kids cases, the infection is frequently diminished. Many of THESE cases have led adults to believing that the undiminished infection was not as severe as it once was, and promote not vaccinating.

However, these scenarios are relatively rare. Most people will convert, with a proper vaccine and/or a booster, etc. Most people never contract the virus/infection they have been vaccinated against. In general, vaccines have been extremely effective in lowering rates of infections. Penn and Teller have a semi-hilarious bit about this.

Wow, thank you for teaching me these things. I did not know this and I am glad to learn it. I love Penn and Teller. i will have to see if I can find that bit.