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12 Jun 2016, 12:59 pm

Oh, and it is true that the couple's getting the most help are the ones with children, obviously, but mental health tells me not to have children, but women with similar dx who have children are doing a lot better. I've been told I should have children for the help it brings!


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12 Jun 2016, 1:14 pm

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But Angnix, don't you have some issues other than just autism? Some thought disorder or bipolar, something like that? My memory is defective, so apologies if I have misstated.

Your success in getting and holding a job is not tied specifically to a diagnosis, but to how well you can function in "competitive" employment. If you can't function very well, that is no source of shame. Maybe your total impairments are too great.

It seems you are feeling you get no assistance at employment. My suggestion is to accept your status on SSI and use some time to become stronger. Sometimes people develop late, and it's not unheard of to return to employment after a period on SSI.

Best of luck to you.


I spent about 10 years on SSI & did finally find work I could do that pays better than minimum wage. It's not enough to get rich on but we do own a mobile home & a 2014 car that I'm still paying on.



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12 Jun 2016, 1:31 pm

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I think there are a lot of people in the "helping" professions who automatically infantilize their "clients" as a way to inflate their own sense of status and self-worth. They want to keep you dependent, because if you become independent -- well, you wouldn't need them anymore, and we can't have that. (If you become independent then how could they justify increasing their budget?)

Totally agree, as a support worker for the last 7 years I have come into contact with a lot of these people, at all different levels of the professional hierarchy. Makes me sick.

I think people tend to see so much hope and possibility in children, then when you're an adult they think it's too late for you. Children and youths and being young and youthful are worshipped. It's so overrated if you ask me. So many people think the older you get the crappier life gets (maybe it does for many people but it doesn't have to be that way). Anyway don't let other people's misguided opinions decide what you can and can't do.


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12 Jun 2016, 2:46 pm

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Anyway don't let other people's misguided opinions decide what you can and can't do.

I wish more people had this advice. :heart:


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12 Jun 2016, 5:27 pm

You can work and get any income for i think it is 8 months and still get SSI. Then you can work and get full SSI benefits if you get less then around 1,000 in earnable income. So try gradually getting up to that level. Since you're having trouble getting a full time job get some small part time jobs. They might not seem like much but you can ad them to your resume and have better future job prospects.
Also it sounds like you and your husband have money issues I hope you are informed about food stamps and the lifeline program they aren't big but can save you a little money.



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13 Jun 2016, 6:08 am

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You can work and get any income for i think it is 8 months and still get SSI. Then you can work and get full SSI benefits if you get less then around 1,000 in earnable income. So try gradually getting up to that level. Since you're having trouble getting a full time job get some small part time jobs. They might not seem like much but you can ad them to your resume and have better future job prospects.
Also it sounds like you and your husband have money issues I hope you are informed about food stamps and the lifeline program they aren't big but can save you a little money.


My husband uses the lifeline program, you can only have 1 phone, so I pay 35 a month for a smartphone because I use it like a computer, right now I am using it. We get quite a bit in food stamps, if we didn't we would be in huge trouble.


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13 Jun 2016, 7:55 am

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I'm bipolar, but I'm functioning well. Also it's an issue of being bored... I don't have much to fill my time or the money to do anything. Michigan rehab last time I delt with them, wanted me to work in the Goodwill factory... that pay far less than minimum wage and get away with it. Right now my caseworker says part time minimum wage work... oh, and I can't own a car even if I work because they are too expensive... yeah, but I have a licence and I used to own cars and my mechanic uncle used to work on them for free....


Don't ever work at goodwill, they take advantage sooo much.



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13 Jun 2016, 11:01 am

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I'm questioning whether you have a case worker or govt employee, referring you for subsidized services, both as a child and an adult. That might just be their job, but they may get a commission, too -- completely irrespective of their opinions about your personal abilities. They could just as well try to help anyone who walks through the door.

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Could be the county too... where I used to live a couple of counties over, mich. Rehab. was trying to get me a job at the zoo and a car to get there, but I declined the help because I got another job, but I did not end up suitable for that one. Now where I used to live in that county won't take me back.

My caseworker is mental health, I've had bad experiences with them, especially my last caseworker, they are good at exploiting people.


It doesn't mean they're making an assumption about your intelligence.

Maybe, something more pragmatic is happening, such as, they have a job to do. Their options are limited. They are using whatever is at their disposal, for anyone who asks.

I think NT's have applied for the job at the zoo (which was reserved for special-needs people) and wondered why they couldn't get that work.

I am wondering, in terms of seeking help, who is empowered to do what.

Who is physically capable of giving you what you want.

As for what they think of me, you and other people... :roll:

I feel that you're dealing with doorkeepers and not stakeholders, if that makes sense.



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13 Jun 2016, 1:49 pm

I think you should go for your dreams. Do what's right for you and not what people tell you to do.


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13 Jun 2016, 2:34 pm

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I'm bipolar, but I'm functioning well. Also it's an issue of being bored... I don't have much to fill my time or the money to do anything. Michigan rehab last time I delt with them, wanted me to work in the Goodwill factory... that pay far less than minimum wage and get away with it. Right now my caseworker says part time minimum wage work... oh, and I can't own a car even if I work because they are too expensive... yeah, but I have a licence and I used to own cars and my mechanic uncle used to work on them for free....


Don't ever work at goodwill, they take advantage sooo much.


I was told by my caseworker someone from Goodwill was going to find me a job in the community.


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13 Jun 2016, 5:08 pm

My caseworker told me they place people into "lawn care, fast food and factories" ugh, perfect places for someone with a Bachelor's!


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13 Jun 2016, 11:24 pm

Angnix, it seems to me you can't afford to be that picky. I have more than a bachelors, I have a masters, and yet I'm working in customer service which requires "a high school diploma." I think of my job as "a job, not a career."

Once you have established a track record of employment, you can look for ways to put your degree to use. But for the time being, I would take anything you can get, except those jobs that don't even pay minimum wage. You may also just choose a part-time job, so you don't jeopardize your benefits too much.

It might also help you to stop demonizing the people who are supposed to be helping you. At worst, they are useless. It's not like they have a grand scheme to make you miserable. At best, you might get some value out of the program.

I believe your self-worth is fragile right now, so you feel if you have a job beneath your education, it will mean you are a nobody, a failure. That attitude is understandable, and yet self-defeating. Try thinking of it as "a job, not a career," until you are situated to move to a more appropriate opening.


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14 Jun 2016, 2:42 am

It's like anything - rescuing and rehousing cute little puppies may be great, but saving abused or old dogs who may have complex health needs or behaviour problems just isn't glamorous anymore.
There is also a lot of acclaim in helping disabled kids. People will think you a saint for doing that. But adults with disabilities are just depressing or disgusting to most people, who think they should have "got over" this already. There may also be a bit of fear there, like that saying, "there but for the grace of god go I." In other circumstances this could have been them and they don't want to think about it.
Maybe they just don't understand - I just had someone from the employment services tell me that because I cannot do jobs that stipulate "fast paced work environment," I also could not deal with violent people. Which I can.

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My caseworker told me they place people into "lawn care, fast food and factories" ugh, perfect places for someone with a Bachelor's!

Why not? You may start and learn you love lawn work. Just because it' basic doesn't automatically follow that it's going to be awful. Is there any truth in their accusations that you are unwilling to take on humble jobs? I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that position if such be the case, but it may be helpful to keep this in mind, and perhaps sacrifice pay for the sake of getting your proverbial foot in the door of more prestigious jobs - doing unpaid internship work in the field of our degree for example.
I agree with BeaArthur - taking on something basic just temporarily to build up our work history may be best.
However, there is a difference in my opinion between taking on jobs that may not be ideal but that you can do just to get yourself out there, and in taking on jobs that are unsuitable for you just because they were there. As said, I have has to start saying I cannot do "fast paced environment" jobs because I know it won't work out for me and I'm honest about that upfront. I will fall behind, get lost, get stressed and flustered which will make my verbal skills suffer, others will become hostile toward me because they can do it and I can't, etc. I won't be able to sustain this. If your autism impacts on what jobs you can do, I advocate respecting that and yourself.
Then again, I did speak up about this and was advised by the employment services to lie to the employer anyway. Some people just don't understand.


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14 Jun 2016, 9:36 am

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Angnix wrote:
I'm bipolar, but I'm functioning well. Also it's an issue of being bored... I don't have much to fill my time or the money to do anything. Michigan rehab last time I delt with them, wanted me to work in the Goodwill factory... that pay far less than minimum wage and get away with it. Right now my caseworker says part time minimum wage work... oh, and I can't own a car even if I work because they are too expensive... yeah, but I have a licence and I used to own cars and my mechanic uncle used to work on them for free....


Don't ever work at goodwill, they take advantage sooo much.


I was told by my caseworker someone from Goodwill was going to find me a job in the community.


Ohh ... most people will not hire you if they know you worked at goodwill. Its a reference and all and thats good but everyone knows GW mostly takes people with special needs. To most jobs taking a disabled person is a liability, so I don't even think they would take the person who's trying to get you a job seriously.



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14 Jun 2016, 1:11 pm

I work for myself. I have a master's degree in acupuncture. You have a degree in accounting. You could totally take on a few private clients. Small business people need affordable accounting help. Sometimes middle class families could use help, too. Or you could look at working with the elderly and other disabled people. You wouldn't be able to charge them a lot, but you could get something out of it - build you confidence, make some trades for something you would like. I pay someone like you to do some work with my books. You could even look for part-time home-based work in book keeping from a larger business that would take you on as an independent contractor. That way, it won't matter where you work. You can work from anywhere. If you would like some advice on starting your own business, I'd be happy to lend it. There are organizations that specifically help women with low incomes start businesses that have classes in marketing and stuff. But you can start small and grow as you are ready. You can even get most people to pay you cash. Doing so has...benefits.

Its also true that disability programs have a component where they will pay you to go back to school. Its a federal thing, so I think you should be able to access this in Maryland. This might be a good time to think about doing that.

Medical transcription is another area where you might find success. You work from home. You get paid per assignment completed and you can take as much or as little work as you can handle.



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14 Jun 2016, 3:43 pm

I already know I can't do fast food because I have tried it. I have had internships and jobs in zoology, but there is a gap that is hard to explain.

I feel like I'm setting myself up for a let down, because I fell in love with a potential job so much... I can't even bring myself to apply to other jobs because of that one.


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